Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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xdan0920

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Couldn't they just serve some hotdogs or sell chips or something? Or does a bar need a different license to be able to sell any food?
Maybe in Florida, I live in NJ and we have bureaucratic red tape coming out our you know what’s. Here you can’t just decide to serve food. It would be a large undertaking.
 

phillip9698

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Looking at all the plastic, dividers, floor signs, etc...everywhere in the ride queues, around the park, etc... I wonder how the purists, for which theming is above all else, will reconcile this. Thats out the window at this point. People were ready to revolt when it was said CMs could have beards and watches. Well now they are wearing masks and face shields, did they have face shields in the enchanted forest? 🤔
 

Chi84

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In Illinois bars are strictly regulated. They can’t just serve some token food items and call themselves a restaurant. The liquor license and control commission would shut them down if they couldn’t show that a specified percentage of their total sales came from selling food as opposed to liquor.
 

GoofGoof

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Is it? I feel like that would be a pretty major undertaking. Not even just building a kitchen and menu, but the red tape.
You don’t need a kitchen. The point is they didn‘t set a threshold for food sales. In TX if a bar makes 50% or more of its profits selling food it can remain open. If less than 50% it’s closed. The FL order has no threshold. A long as a bar sells food it’s exempt from the closure. In an extreme example if I sell soft pretzels or bags of popcorn at my bar I’m selling food. I don’t really need a full kitchen. There are several examples at Universal of bars that have remained open that are not real restaurants. The Duff Beer Brewery bar has some packaged snacks and very limited food items. If they were serious about actually stopping anything they would have set the threshold to exempt only real restaurants. Just my opinion.
 

milordsloth

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In Illinois bars are strictly regulated. They can’t just serve some token food items and call themselves a restaurant. The liquor license and control commission would shut them down if they couldn’t show that a specified percentage of their total sales came from selling food as opposed to liquor.

I guess I'm still a little confused. Do the bars have to be labeled a restaurant to be able to sell alcohol in Florida? Or do they just need to have food available, and if so, is a license needed to sell a bag of chips?

Edit: @GoofGoof answered my question above and clarified below.
 

Jrb1979

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Looking at all the plastic, dividers, floor signs, etc...everywhere in the ride queues, around the park, etc... I wonder how the purists, for which theming is above all else, will reconcile this. Thats out the window at this point. People were ready to revolt when it was said CMs could have beards and watches. Well now they are wearing masks and face shields, did they have face shields in the enchanted forest? 🤔
Disney is now a more expensive version of your local theme park but with less thrilling rides.
 

GoofGoof

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I guess I'm still a little confused. Do the bars have to be labeled a restaurant to be able to sell alcohol in Florida? Or do they just need to have food available, and if so, is a license needed to sell a bag of chips?
Here’s what the amendment said:
The Amended order states the following:

1. Vendors licensed to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, but not licensed to offer food service, shall suspend sales of alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, provided that these vendors may continue to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption off the premises; and

2. Vendors licensed to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, and also licensed to offer food service, may continue to operate as restaurants at 50% of seating occupancy for the service of food and beverages to customers seated at tables or bar counters with appropriate social distancing.


So you have to be licensed to offer food services but there’s no threshold so selling a bag of chips counts. So to @xdan0920 ‘s point if a bar wasn’t already allowed to sell food they would have to apply for a license.
 

Jrb1979

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Watching this livetsream, the low crowds make it look like a really enjoyable experience. If I was a local, I would likely attend. Coming from out of state, unlikely.
Not for me. Since it's mostly just going to rides I would rather go to Cedar Point and at least go one high thrilling ones. Give me Steel Vengeance over RoTR any day.
 

milordsloth

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Not for me. Since it's mostly just going to rides I would rather go to Cedar Point and at least go one high thrilling ones. Give me Steel Vengeance over RoTR any day.

Disney parks have so much to see and look at beyond rides! So much beauty, attention to detail, and history that other parks really don't have. I would be plenty happy just slowly walking around the parks taking it all in, even with minimal rides.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Looking at all the plastic, dividers, floor signs, etc...everywhere in the ride queues, around the park, etc... I wonder how the purists, for which theming is above all else, will reconcile this. Thats out the window at this point. People were ready to revolt when it was said CMs could have beards and watches. Well now they are wearing masks and face shields, did they have face shields in the enchanted forest? 🤔

If the enchanted forest was going through a global pandemic then yes, they would have been wearing cloth masks.

At the Henry Ford Greenfield Village (which largely inspired Disneyland) - some reenactors are explaining that they are wearing cloth masks because of the current pandemic that fits the era of the building they are representing (smallpox, Spanish flu, etc.)

Cloth masks during a pandemic is not off theme.
 

disneygeek90

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Anecdotal report in Orlando, my office began "reopening" June 1. Encouraging those to come back to the office if they feel comfortable doing so, etc. I'd say at any given point the office is at maybe 40% of the normal traffic, if not less. Most areas are staggering days or weeks with coworkers that sit near each other.

They just sent an email out encouraging everyone to go back to wfh starting tomorrow.
 

lazyboy97o

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If the enchanted forest was going through a global pandemic then yes, they would have been wearing cloth masks.

At the Henry Ford Greenfield Village (which largely inspired Disneyland) - some reenactors are explaining that they are wearing cloth masks because of the current pandemic that fits the era of the building they are representing (smallpox, Spanish flu, etc.)

Cloth masks during a pandemic is not off theme.
But obvious troll is obvious.
 

GoofGoof

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Anecdotal report in Orlando, my office began "reopening" June 1. Encouraging those to come back to the office if they feel comfortable doing so, etc. I'd say at any given point the office is at maybe 40% of the normal traffic, if not less. Most areas are staggering days or weeks with coworkers that sit near each other.

They just sent an email out encouraging everyone to go back to wfh starting tomorrow.
Makes sense. Anyone who can work from home should still be doing so. We should all try to limit our exposure to each other as much as possible. Most offices have a plan and mitigation in place but nothing is 100% safe short of not being there.
 
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