Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Incomudro

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It hasn't exactly been a cakewalk for many of the survivors either.

This is not the story of most people who had covid19.
These are the exceptions.
 

Rider

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Florida coronavirus cases climbed to 77,326 total with an additional 1,758 infections reported Monday while the death toll climbed seven to 2,938.
The reported daily increase from the state Department of Health comes as the statewide tests to date hit more than 1.43 million. Of 21,172 new tests, 8.3% were reported as positive, the highest percent positive in a month.
Total positive COVID-19 tests had the biggest Sunday-Sunday increase since the pandemic began - 11,630 from June 7-14 - but that comes as testing expanded statewide.
 

Jrb1979

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Florida coronavirus cases climbed to 77,326 total with an additional 1,758 infections reported Monday while the death toll climbed seven to 2,938.
The reported daily increase from the state Department of Health comes as the statewide tests to date hit more than 1.43 million. Of 21,172 new tests, 8.3% were reported as positive, the highest percent positive in a month.
Total positive COVID-19 tests had the biggest Sunday-Sunday increase since the pandemic began - 11,630 from June 7-14 - but that comes as testing expanded statewide.
Nothing to see here, everything is fine. 🙄.

Its funny how people are saying it's fine cases are rising with more testing and it's ok. Here in Ontario Canada where so live, today our numbers are 181 with over 23000 tests done. Its concerning how high cases are rising in a lot of states from reopening. Are people just not caring enough to continue social distancing?
 

oceanbreeze77

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This is not the story of most people who had covid19.
These are the exceptions.
the problem is we don't know the long term after effects of the virus. Many people have reported some sort of struggle months after having the virus. Thats what makes the virus so dangerous. Everyone is so focused on death, but not enough are focused on what happens if you survive, which could be very dangerous.

Many nurses report that a persons blood becomes extremely thick, causing cardiovascular complications. Some people report they have horrid digestive issues. Some report extreme chest pain, even after they've "cleared" the virus. So again, the danger is that we just don't know what exactly the virus does to a person.
 
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DCBaker

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"Star Wars Celebration is the latest big entertainment event to be upended by the ongoing coronavirus pandemic. The convention organized ReedPop in partnership with Lucasfilm, has been cancelled ahead of its late summer schedule. It’s the first time the event has been cancelled in Celebration history.

The event was scheduled to run from Aug. 27 through 30 in the Anaheim Convention Center."

"Fans who purchased tickets can receive a refund or have their tickets transferred to the next Star Wars Celebration, which is set to take place in Anaheim Aug. 18-21, 2022"

 

esskay

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Given the trends I'm struggling to see how large parts of the US is (at least from an outside perspective) completely ignoring this thing. Everythings pointing to a second wave later this year.

(As a side note - what does that do to the election if it can't be held? Wasn't there a rule about only being able to postpone until January?)
 

legwand77

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Florida coronavirus cases climbed to 77,326 total with an additional 1,758 infections reported Monday while the death toll climbed seven to 2,938.
The reported daily increase from the state Department of Health comes as the statewide tests to date hit more than 1.43 million. Of 21,172 new tests, 8.3% were reported as positive, the highest percent positive in a month.
Total positive COVID-19 tests had the biggest Sunday-Sunday increase since the pandemic began - 11,630 from June 7-14 - but that comes as testing expanded statewide.

More importantly hospitalization capacity in Florida has been steady over this time - currently today at 27-28% remaining capacity for the state of Florida for both hospital beds and ICU. Which is pretty much standard even without Covid.

 

robhedin

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More importantly hospitalization capacity in Florida has been steady over this time - currently today at 27-28% remaining capacity for the state of Florida for both hospital beds and ICU. Which is pretty much standard even without Covid.

This is what I'm watching-- and seeing the same-- COVID hospitalizations (especially ICU cases) largely stable. That's a lagging indicator though, so if it starts to rapidly increase I'll be concerned.
 

Jrb1979

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More importantly hospitalization capacity in Florida has been steady over this time - currently today at 27-28% remaining capacity for the state of Florida for both hospital beds and ICU. Which is pretty much standard even without Covid.

Again it's amazing how people keep spinning the numbers too look good.
 

LuvtheGoof

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Florida coronavirus cases climbed to 77,326 total with an additional 1,758 infections reported Monday while the death toll climbed seven to 2,938.
The reported daily increase from the state Department of Health comes as the statewide tests to date hit more than 1.43 million. Of 21,172 new tests, 8.3% were reported as positive, the highest percent positive in a month.
Total positive COVID-19 tests had the biggest Sunday-Sunday increase since the pandemic began - 11,630 from June 7-14 - but that comes as testing expanded statewide.
Where are you getting you're percent positive number??? According to the Florida DoH current data, it isn't anywhere near that.

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And the overall weekly numbers:
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The death rate is also going down as well:
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jt04

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the problem is we don't know the long term after effects of the virus. Many people have reported some sort of struggle months after having the virus. Thats what makes the virus so dangerous. Everyone is so focused on death, but not enough are focused on what happens if you survive, which could be very dangerous.

Many nurses report that a persons blood becomes extremely thick, causing cardiovascular complications. Some people report they have horrid digestive issues. Some report extreme chest pain, even after they've "cleared" the virus. So again, the danger is that we just don't know what exactly the virus does to a person.

Not sure about thick blood. Never heard of that. But the other symptoms may also be caused by severe stress. It is going to be some time before they sort out the causes specifically.
 

robhedin

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Again it's amazing how people keep spinning the numbers too look good.
Not sure about "spinning numbers"... but people are looking at more data points than just the total number of cases. If cases go up, but hospitalizations do not go up by the same rate (or even decrease), then that provides specific insights into the severity of the virus and how it's impacting the population. The same with mortality rate. The only way to get a good view into overall severity of the contagion is to measure it's overall effects. That drives understanding of how we need to handle things.
 

Sadiebird

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I asked this question on another page with fewer post. Maybe it fits better here anyway. Does anyone have a suggestions for the best kind of mask for comfort in the heat?
I’ve tried lots of masks and found all of them uncomfortably hot, except for one. When we were first required to wear them, I used a 100 percent cotton percale bedsheet to make several masks for my family. So far it’s the been the only one that hasn’t felt too hot when I wear it.
 

easyrowrdw

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This is exactly what I'm saying about the use of cloth masks by the general populace. Too many people are relying on studies of N95 respirators in hospitals and then concluding that cloth masks are going to make things safer at Disney.

There are studies that address non-95s. Here's one. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468042720300117 and another https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/06/10/2009637117 and another https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202004.0203/v2

They all come to the same conclusion: wearing masks (even crappy homemade masks) should have a positive impact on mitigating the spread of the virus. No study is perfect, but at some point the accumulation of evidence outweighs the nitpicking that can be applied to any individual study.
 

DCBaker

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"UPDATE 6/15/20: In light of the recent cancelation of Star Wars Celebration, we are making the decision to postpone Disneyland After Dark: Star Wars Nite event to a later date. Please visit Disneyland.com/starwarsnite for details. For more information on Star Wars Celebration, please visit starwarscelebration.com."

 

oceanbreeze77

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Not sure about thick blood. Never heard of that. But the other symptoms may also be caused by severe stress. It is going to be some time before they sort out the causes specifically.
Thick blood has been known for a while.
 

jt04

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Thick blood has been known for a while.

I missed that. Wonder if this might be due to reaction to therapies/meds.

The symptoms are all over the board if people have them at all. It will be years before we understand this illness if ever.
 
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