Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Miss Bella]

They did. And that's one of my biggest complaints about how this whole thing was handled...the lack of consistency in the messages sent to the public. Yes, they needed to make sure people weren't going to hoard N95 masks, but there's no reason they couldn't have sent the later message right from the beginning.

Maybe the first message was the correct one.

 

[Kevin_W]

Little bit of good news....

Centivax Antibodies Neutralize the Pandemic Coronavirus, Independently Confirmed by Three Research Laboratories (USAMRIID, Stanford, and UTMB/GNL)

Centivax Inc, the therapeutics spin-out of Contract Research Organization Distributed Bio Inc, announced a significant advance in their mission to dev

www.businesswire.com

Good news indeed, if still pretty far off for a clinical treatment, since they are not initiating clinical trials until end of summer at best. But hopefully this is another tool that can eventually be put int he arsenal incase the virus resurges in the fall or future years.

 

[WDWTrojan]

Maybe the first message was the correct one.

Or maybe it’s a novel virus and they didn’t realize the amount of airborne spread, at that time, from just breathing - as opposed to just sneezing and coughing.

 

[DCBaker]

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Of course, there is no proof to back up any of your statements.

??? I haven’t read any reports that claim amount of time exposed and being indoors doesn’t matter.

That’s why I think it’s so odd that restaurant dining rooms are opening up all across America.

 

[natatomic]

This is true, but what is the alternative. They have no choice but to allow people to drink. That’s a health and safety issue. Having carved out sections where eating and drinking is allowed was suggested but may not be practical everywhere. I am a bit surprised they don’t simply suggest people step off to the side comfortably away from foot traffic to remove the mask to eat or drink. They are probably relying on guests to actually figure that out on their own and most people want to follow the rules, but we’ve already seen people posting here about plans to walk around all day with no mask on holding a drink or food item as the excuse. Leaves the door open for potential bad behavior.

Oh, i agree. Their options are very limited, and I don’t blame them for anything they’re trying so far, including requiring masks but also allowing frequent removal for drinks and snacks. But I also don’t think for a second that the requirement is gonna be what prevents me from getting the virus, not if everyone is eating and drinking all around me. Plus, guests aren’t required to wear the masks in restaurants where everyone is spaced 6 feet apart, but they’re required to wear them outside where everyone is spaced 6 feet apart, which is kind of contradictory too. If you’re contagious outside a restaurant 6 feet apart, you’re contagious inside a restaurant 6 feet apart.
Again, I get why they have to have the regulations given everything going on. To make people feel safe and encourage people to come. But I think even Disney knows that these precautions are going to give only minimal protection, hence the disclaimer they released regarding the virus.

 

[Horizons '83]

??? I haven’t read any reports that claim amount of time exposed and being indoors doesn’t matter.

That’s why I think it’s so odd that restaurant dining rooms are opening up all across America.

There was a study conducted recently that literally drew out diagrams of particular restaurants and office spaces where they traced COVID back to. I'll have to find that article.

Edit: Found it

The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them

Please read this link to learn about the author and background to these posts. It seems many people are breathing some relief, and I’m not sure why. An epidemic curve has a relatively predictable upslope and once the peak is reached, the back slope can also be predicted. We have robust data from...

www.erinbromage.com

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Oh, i agree. Their options are very limited, and I don’t blame them for anything they’re trying so far, including requiring masks but also allowing frequent removal for drinks and snacks. But I also don’t think for a second that the requirement is gonna be what prevents me from getting the virus, not if everyone is eating and drinking all around me. Plus, guests aren’t required to wear the masks in restaurants where everyone is spaced 6 feet apart, but they’re required to wear them outside where everyone is spaced 6 feet apart, which is kind of contradictory too. If you’re contagious outside a restaurant 6 feet apart, you’re contagious inside a restaurant 6 feet apart.
Again, I get why they have to have the regulations given everything going on. To make people feel safe and encourage people to come. But I think even Disney knows that these precautions are going to give only minimal protection, hence the disclaimer they released regarding the virus.

There is zero way they can guarantee someone won't become infected. However, the face-covering and social distancing have been proven to be successful in dramatically reducing spread.

 

[celluloid]

They did. And that's one of my biggest complaints about how this whole thing was handled...the lack of consistency in the messages sent to the public. Yes, they needed to make sure people weren't going to hoard N95 masks, but there's no reason they couldn't have sent the later message right from the beginning.

The problem sometimes even experts have like the rest of us to me is, them saying at this time we do not know. Either they do not say it due to pressure or being edited out via media.

 

[GoofGoof]

Oh, i agree. Their options are very limited, and I don’t blame them for anything they’re trying so far, including requiring masks but also allowing frequent removal for drinks and snacks. But I also don’t think for a second that the requirement is gonna be what prevents me from getting the virus, not if everyone is eating and drinking all around me. Plus, guests aren’t required to wear the masks in restaurants where everyone is spaced 6 feet apart, but they’re required to wear them outside where everyone is spaced 6 feet apart, which is kind of contradictory too. If you’re contagious outside a restaurant 6 feet apart, you’re contagious inside a restaurant 6 feet apart.
Again, I get why they have to have the regulations given everything going on. To make people feel safe and encourage people to come. But I think even Disney knows that these precautions are going to give only minimal protection, hence the disclaimer they released regarding the virus.

I agree. That’s why I said earlier that in theory if it’s ok to take the mask off in a restaurant because you are seated 6 feet apart it should be OK on a ride too. Same concept...you are seated and not going to interact with anyone else. I think the reason for masks In the parks in general is there’s no way to guarantee people stay 6 feet apart when moving around. When seated at a restaurant you aren’t moving. Not sure what happens when you need to use the restroom and walk within 6 feet of a table though. I guess you put the mask back on when walking in the restaurant just not when seated.

 

[MyAdventureBook]

Or maybe it’s a novel virus and they didn’t realize the amount of airborne spread, at that time, from just breathing - as opposed to just sneezing and coughing.

But most of the science says cloth face masks can only, at best, prevent transfer of the virus spread through coughing and sneezing. The cloth face masks do nothing for the respiratory aerosols, which are all so tiny that they pass right through the cloth masks. That is why the CDC recommends staying six feet apart, even while wearing a cloth mask.

So that new info they have now has no bearing on the value of cloth masks.

 

[WDWTrojan]

But most of the science says cloth face masks can only, at best, prevent transfer of the virus spread through coughing and sneezing. The cloth face masks do nothing for the respiratory aerosols, which are all so tiny that they pass right through the cloth masks. That is why the CDC recommends staying six feet apart, even while wearing a cloth mask.

So that new info they have now has no bearing on the value of cloth masks.

That’s just not true. Some of the virus particles can get through the masks but it reduces the amount of spread. It’s about mitigation.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

Of interest.

Here’s how NYC is using powerful UV light to kill the coronavirus on subways and buses

The agency is spending $1 million on 150 lamps from Puro Lighting.

www.theverge.com

 

[celluloid]

Or maybe it’s a novel virus and they didn’t realize the amount of airborne spread, at that time, from just breathing - as opposed to just sneezing and coughing.

Just to clarify. Airborne has a different definition. Covid19 has yet to be classified as airborne.

 

[WDWTrojan]

Just to clarify. Airborne has a different definition. Covid19 has yet to be classified as airborne.

Correct but it’s now well understood that the droplets are released through just breathing and can stay in the air for at least some period of time prior to falling or dissipating.

 

[Hawg G]

Read about how viruses spread. Evidence enough.

You mean Fauci's 40 year career, and he said masks don't help against viruses?

 

[dolbyman]

Of interest.

Here’s how NYC is using powerful UV light to kill the coronavirus on subways and buses

The agency is spending $1 million on 150 lamps from Puro Lighting.

www.theverge.com

Was thinking about it a while back, all rides where unload and onload are in different areas (e.g. haunted mansion,buzz) could have a curtained off UV section to give each vehcle a short intense UV dose, not sure how effective and what effect it would have on surface materials used)

 

[celluloid]

Correct but it’s now well understood that the droplets are released through just breathing and can stay in the air for at least some period of time prior to falling or dissipating.

That is true, many strong viruses do that as we speak. If can spread through coughing or sneezing, the same mucus can be found in our throats so it can spread through heavy breathing or talking. This is why mucas is swabbed from nasal cavities or throat and not required lung samples. It is not not the same as a virus being airborne.

 

[Hawg G]

There was a study conducted recently that literally drew out diagrams of particular restaurants and office spaces where they traced COVID back to. I'll have to find that article.

Edit: Found it

The Risks - Know Them - Avoid Them

Please read this link to learn about the author and background to these posts. It seems many people are breathing some relief, and I’m not sure why. An epidemic curve has a relatively predictable upslope and once the peak is reached, the back slope can also be predicted. We have robust data from...

www.erinbromage.com

How about this from the CDC TODAY! So tell me again how we know many FACTS about how this virus spreads?

CDC: COVID-19 spreads mainly person-to-person, not easily in other ways

Since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic, a major concern for people is how the virus spreads.

www.kron4.com

 

[Horizons '83]

You mean Fauci's 40 year career, and he said masks don't help against viruses?

But you're much more versed on this subject ... so please educate us (side note, that comment was made in March and was purposeful to make sure medical staff had necessary supply before assumptions were made on a 2 month old virus)