Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Andrew C]

Can we stop with the "Karen" thing? Or else I'm going to freely call anyone who disagrees with Disney's decision requiring masks, a hick.

if they dont, I would ask for a manager...

 

[Parker in NYC]

if they dont, I would ask for a manager...

Hicks don't do well with managers. Things could get too violent, you know.

 

[Touchdown]

Can we stop with the "Karen" thing? Or else I'm going to freely call anyone who disagrees with Disney's decision requiring masks, a hick.

Educate yourself: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)

 

[Parker in NYC]

Educate yourself: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(slang)

I've been educated on the slang, thanks. And I think it's demeaning. I see it tossed around more these days than snowflake or boomer (also ridiculous). When used, these words are no more illuminating in an argument than saying "screw you", either directly or indirectly. I'd much prefer people spell it out than use one of these BS terms.

 

[GoofGoof]

There could be an announcement regarding the NBA playing their games at ESPN at WDW and the players staying in the resorts. Orlando has emerged as the front runner ahead of Las Vegas. Hope for the best!

I wouldn’t hold my breath on that. If the NBA has a final decision on when the season starts up I’m almost certain the NBA commissioner will be making the announcement. They won’t play second fiddle to Disney. I’m not saying the games won’t come there or that it couldn’t be announced soon but I just would expect the news to be broken by the league not the host site. While it would be exciting news for Disney to get some extra revenue it would be the biggest story in pro sports since the leagues all shut down.

 

[MisterPenguin]

How about this from the CDC TODAY! So tell me again how we know many FACTS about how this virus spreads?

CDC: COVID-19 spreads mainly person-to-person, not easily in other ways

Since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic, a major concern for people is how the virus spreads.

www.kron4.com

This is you, again, twisting data to support OPEN NOW!

Don't use a summary, go to the source...

Person-to-person spread​

The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.​

• Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
  • Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks.
  • These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.
  • COVID-19 may be spread by people who are not showing symptoms.

The virus spreads easily between people​

How easily a virus spreads from person-to-person can vary. Some viruses are highly contagious, like measles, while other viruses do not spread as easily. Another factor is whether the spread is sustained, which means it goes from person-to-person without stopping.​

​

The virus that causes COVID-19 is spreading very easily and sustainably between people. Information from the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic suggest that this virus is spreading more efficiently than influenza, but not as efficiently as measles, which is highly contagious.​

​

The virus does not spread easily in other ways​

COVID-19 is a new disease and we are still learning about how it spreads. It may be possible for COVID-19 to spread in other ways, but these are not thought to be the main ways the virus spreads.​

• From touching surfaces or objects. It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes. This is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads, but we are still learning more about this virus.

Takeaways directly from the CDC:

1. COVID is more infectious than the flu. The "open now" movement keeps wanting to say that it's only as bad as the flu. But, if you're running to the CDC for your info, you have to take all their info as fact. COVID is more infectious than the flu.

2. COVID spreads easily. Period. Again, here's the CDC (the source you're using) making that very plain.

3. COVID spreads easily through respiratory droplets. Again, this is the CDC saying that. So... how do we reduce this easily infectious disease from being easily transmitted through respiratory droplets?

• Social distancing.
• Wear masks.

4. The part from the CDC about "not spread easily in other ways" is not the same thing as "doesn't really spread at all in other ways." The CDC admits the science is out on just how transmissible COVID is when landing on surfaces (via droplets or touch). However, keep in mind, that a lot of what has been happening with lock-downs and social distancing and masks isn't so much to avoid contact through things. It is this contact through things that the CDC is saying is likely not as infectious as just being around people not wearing masks. This is the "FACT" that is unsure. Not the facts of points 1-3 above which has been driving the shut-downs, distancing, and masks. It is clear the CDC (your source you're quoting) believes that the points 1-3 above are indeed facts [as much as the scientific method allows].

But hey, thanks for admitting that we should trust what the CDC says and recommends!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Was thinking about it a while back, all rides where unload and onload are in different areas (e.g. haunted mansion,buzz) could have a curtained off UV section to give each vehcle a short intense UV dose, not sure how effective and what effect it would have on surface materials used)

When UVC was brought up before, I did some Googling about its usage and learned that there isn't enough time between unload and load for effective UVC disinfection. Also, since it's harmful to humans, you'd need CMs to run in, put the lamps in, run out, and then turn on the lamps. Then, turn off the lamps, run in, and remove the lamps. For each ride vehicle.

UVC used in circulation media (water or air) rely on the media passing by over and over again to sterilize it. UVC might be a consideration for overnight disinfection, but not between rides.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

This is you, again, twisting data to support OPEN NOW!

Don't use a summary, go to the source...

Person-to-person spread​

The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.​

• Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
  • Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks.
  • These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.
  • COVID-19 may be spread by people who are not showing symptoms.

The virus spreads easily between people​

How easily a virus spreads from person-to-person can vary. Some viruses are highly contagious, like measles, while other viruses do not spread as easily. Another factor is whether the spread is sustained, which means it goes from person-to-person without stopping.​

​

The virus that causes COVID-19 is spreading very easily and sustainably between people. Information from the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic suggest that this virus is spreading more efficiently than influenza, but not as efficiently as measles, which is highly contagious.​

​

The virus does not spread easily in other ways​

COVID-19 is a new disease and we are still learning about how it spreads. It may be possible for COVID-19 to spread in other ways, but these are not thought to be the main ways the virus spreads.​

• From touching surfaces or objects. It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes. This is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads, but we are still learning more about this virus.

Takeaways directly from the CDC:

1. COVID is more infectious than the flu. The "open now" movement keeps wanting to say that it's only as bad as the flu. But, if you're running to the CDC for your info, you have to take all their info as fact. COVID is more infectious than the flu.

2. COVID spreads easily. Period. Again, here's the CDC (the source you're using) making that very plain.

3. COVID spreads easily through respiratory droplets. Again, this is the CDC saying that. So... how do we reduce this easily infectious disease from being easily transmitted through respiratory droplets?

• Social distancing.
• Wear masks.

4. The part from the CDC about "not spread easily in other ways" is not the same thing as "doesn't really spread at all in other ways." The CDC admits the science is out on just how transmissible COVID is when landing on surfaces (via droplets or touch). However, keep in mind, that a lot of what has been happening with lock-downs and social distancing and masks isn't so much to avoid contact through things. It is this contact through things that the CDC is saying is likely not as infectious as just being around people not wearing masks. This is the "FACT" that is unsure. Not the facts of points 1-3 above which has been driving the shut-downs, distancing, and masks. It is clear the CDC (your source you're quoting) believes that the points 1-3 above are indeed facts [as much as the scientific method allows].

But hey, thanks for admitting that we should trust what the CDC says and recommends!

Why would you come in here and throw truth on the fire. Bad boy.

 

[DCBaker]

Comic Con Tampa is going ahead with their July 10-12th convention.

 

[dolbyman]

Also, since it's harmful to humans, you'd need CMs to run in, put the lamps in, run out, and then turn on the lamps. Then, turn off the lamps, run in, and remove the lamps. For each ride vehicle.

Hence the omnimover vehcles passing under it between unload and load (with protective curtains (like they have for the airport luggage belts) to shield visitors or cast member eyes and skin from UV-C and suck up Ozone. My toothbrush has a UV cleaning station, cycle runs for 5minutes or so. So effect would be maybe cumulative over several passes. Not sure

 

[Hawg G]

This is you, again, twisting data to support OPEN NOW!

Don't use a summary, go to the source...

Person-to-person spread​

The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.​

• Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
  • Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks.
  • These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.
  • COVID-19 may be spread by people who are not showing symptoms.

The virus spreads easily between people​

How easily a virus spreads from person-to-person can vary. Some viruses are highly contagious, like measles, while other viruses do not spread as easily. Another factor is whether the spread is sustained, which means it goes from person-to-person without stopping.​

​

The virus that causes COVID-19 is spreading very easily and sustainably between people. Information from the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic suggest that this virus is spreading more efficiently than influenza, but not as efficiently as measles, which is highly contagious.​

​

The virus does not spread easily in other ways​

COVID-19 is a new disease and we are still learning about how it spreads. It may be possible for COVID-19 to spread in other ways, but these are not thought to be the main ways the virus spreads.​

• From touching surfaces or objects. It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes. This is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads, but we are still learning more about this virus.

Takeaways directly from the CDC:

1. COVID is more infectious than the flu. The "open now" movement keeps wanting to say that it's only as bad as the flu. But, if you're running to the CDC for your info, you have to take all their info as fact. COVID is more infectious than the flu.

2. COVID spreads easily. Period. Again, here's the CDC (the source you're using) making that very plain.

3. COVID spreads easily through respiratory droplets. Again, this is the CDC saying that. So... how do we reduce this easily infectious disease from being easily transmitted through respiratory droplets?

• Social distancing.
• Wear masks.

4. The part from the CDC about "not spread easily in other ways" is not the same thing as "doesn't really spread at all in other ways." The CDC admits the science is out on just how transmissible COVID is when landing on surfaces (via droplets or touch). However, keep in mind, that a lot of what has been happening with lock-downs and social distancing and masks isn't so much to avoid contact through things. It is this contact through things that the CDC is saying is likely not as infectious as just being around people not wearing masks. This is the "FACT" that is unsure. Not the facts of points 1-3 above which has been driving the shut-downs, distancing, and masks. It is clear the CDC (your source you're quoting) believes that the points 1-3 above are indeed facts [as much as the scientific method allows].

But hey, thanks for admitting that we should trust what the CDC says and recommends!

You really are on the bandwagon. ANd quite defensive.

Data still shows outside of NYC and old folks homes, the mortality rate is at least an order of magnitude lower than overall. Perhaps less. In some states, well over half the deaths are in old folks homes.

It seems to affect certain goups much more than the flu, which isn't known to kill off half of an old folks home.

Here's a nice list from WebMD on how many DAYS Covid lives on surfaces:

Surface Cleaning and COVID-19: What You Should Know

It’s unlikely, but there have been a few cases of COVID-19 potentially spreading through surfaces. Find out how and when you should clean your home to keep you and your family safe.

www.webmd.com

No states that have opened are seeing rampant spikes like the naysayers said. At some point, you gotta look at the world around you, and what is happening, and think, just MAYBE, the doom and gloom is not right.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Can we stop with the "Karen" thing? Or else I'm going to freely call anyone who disagrees with Disney's decision requiring masks, a hick.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Comic Con Tampa is going ahead with their July 10-12th convention.

Terrible. They've already sold many many tickets beforehand like most Cons. Cons are CROWDED. So are they turning away attendees who have already bought tickets to control capacity? How do they manage this?

We had a MAJOR dentist convention here in Vancouver right before the shut down, it was the cause of a massive outbreak among attendees, including the death of one dentist. Having thousands of people enter a confined area is not a good idea.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

You really are on the bandwagon. ANd quite defensive.

Data still shows outside of NYC and old folks homes, the mortality rate is at least an order of magnitude lower than overall. Perhaps less. In some states, well over half the deaths are in old folks homes.

It seems to affect certain goups much more than the flu, which isn't known to kill off half of an old folks home.

Here's a nice list from WebMD on how many DAYS Covid lives on surfaces:

Surface Cleaning and COVID-19: What You Should Know

It’s unlikely, but there have been a few cases of COVID-19 potentially spreading through surfaces. Find out how and when you should clean your home to keep you and your family safe.

www.webmd.com

No states that have opened are seeing rampant spikes like the naysayers said. At some point, you gotta look at the world around you, and what is happening, and think, just MAYBE, the doom and gloom is not right.

It's not just deaths that are important.

There are young people suffering severe symptoms with long term health consequences because of the virus...including children.

 

[HongKongFooy]

Can we stop with the "KAREN" thing? Or else I'm going to FREELY call anyone who disagrees with Disney's decision requiring masks, a HICK.

I'm pscychically drawn in.......


I did some schoolin' with a girl named Karen Hicks and she later married a M. Freely

 

[Andrew C]

I'm pscychically drawn in.......


I did some schoolin' with a girl named Karen Hicks and she later married a M. Freely

I still don’t get the hick reference...

 

[GoofGoof]

I still don’t get the hick reference...

I don’t get any of it. I would of thought the people ing and moaning about wearing masks and not wanting to follow rules would be the Karens in this case. I’m confused. I’m staying out of it

 

[networkpro]

This is you, again, twisting data to support OPEN NOW!

Don't use a summary, go to the source...

Person-to-person spread​

The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.​

• Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
  • Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks.
  • These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.
  • COVID-19 may be spread by people who are not showing symptoms.

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So essentially, Brazillian tour groups and cheerleaders.

 

[HongKongFooy]

And I, too/two (( or does my confusion make for three already )), do not understand what was meant by "hick".

 

[Patcheslee]

Hence the omnimover vehcles passing under it between unload and load (with protective curtains (like they have for the airport luggage belts) to shield visitors or cast member eyes and skin from UV-C and suck up Ozone. My toothbrush has a UV cleaning station, cycle runs for 5minutes or so. So effect would be maybe cumulative over several passes. Not sure

The county jail happened to have a UVC sanitizing machine to test before COVID-19 hit. It cleans a single cell in 12-14 minutes, and a gen pop size room takes a multiple runs and a couple hours.

County jail using new sanitation machine to fight virus

ndalton@tribtown.com BROWNSTOWN The Jackson County Jail is utilizing a new weapon in the fight against COVID-19. The 1140 Sentry from Skytron is a machine typically used to sanitize hospital surgery rooms, so how did it end up at a jail? Jail Commander Chris Everhart said the product was...

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