Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Rider]

Just got back from picking up a online order from Target and encountered this.
I went to the pick up desk right inside the front door and was waiting for my order when I heard a commotion behind me. A gentleman was trying to come in without a mask and was being told he couldn’t do that. He kept referring to page 5 of something, which he had in his back pocket. He was asking her why she wasn’t schooled on all the exceptions and why Target would not put someone at the front who knew. She kept saying I’m sorry, the manager is on his way. I’m guessing he either had a condition that wouldn’t allow him to wear one but I still felt like going over and telling him to lighten up. Don’t know how it ended, left before the manager got there.
But in thinking about it, what if someone tried to go into Disney and said the same thing? Would asking for proof be illegal like it is with other conditions someone might have?

I'm a manager at a large financial institution. Occasionally I will need to talk to clients who don't understand why check holds exist.

99% of the time if the client is calm, explains their situation, and works with us to help verify funds they are usually real and I can help them out. And if they yell at me, threaten me, tell me I'm going to get sued, etc. I can guarantee that they are attempting to kite checks.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

From what I've read the CDC says exceptions can be made for people who are physically or mentally unable to put a mask on themselves.

Those are just guidelines and Disney can do things differently. I make no guesses as to what they will actually do but going back to my original example: you don't see Disney letting someone on Tower of Terror if they can't physically or mentally wear the seatbelt, do you?

No but they do allow wagons which are otherwise prohibited, and pets as service dogs, etc.

Which actually brings up an interesting point... I wonder if they will have a “doesn’t require mask” wristband like they tag the wagons and strollers?

So many logistics which all need to go through so many lawyers and risk management teams. What an interesting time to be alive.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I went to WDW in June last year. We got soaked everyday. I wonder how a wet mask is going to feel sticking to my face.

How difficult is it to breath with a mask on and water pouring down on you?? It sounds like a familiar form of torture I’ve read about.

Lots of unknowns here and a lot to consider.

Thank goodness they sell packs of four. And ponchos.

You have to really like the parks to want this. We asked our kids how they felt. Settled on a few days at Universal then relaxation at Vero. I couldn’t do a week at Disney in August with a mask.

 

[polynesiangirl]

It's really bumming me out to have zero earthly idea of when I personally will feel OK/good about visiting the parks again. As I am sure is true for many others on this forum, looking forward to our next trip is often half the fun -- planning, counting down the days, getting my kids super hyped up, all of that stuff. We had two pretty epic Disney-related trips planned for this year. Having to cancel is not fun, of course, but it's so much sadder when it's not like I'm just rescheduling or even tentatively penciling in new dates and planning new trips.

Regardless of whatever precautions are taken during the initial opening phases, I know that I won't -- speaking only for myself/my family here -- feel comfortable visiting for a long while yet. Exactly how long is a "long while", I've no idea, which is depressing. I picture some of the restrictions they're going to need, and how those will (or won't) play out in the real world (either because they simply won't be feasible or because guests won't comply or whatever) and I just...can't even imagine A) when I'll be ready to go back and B) what it's all gonna look like when I am. I cannot picture spending an entire day at the parks in hot and/or rainy weather with a mask on (and I am absolutely not anti-mask in general and I get why they'd want/need to require them; I just mean that wearing one all day at Disney World sounds miserable to me and would not be the way I'd want to spend a vacation.)

Obviously visits to the parks are a want and not a need, and I'll just have to wait as long as it takes for things to get sorted out and to reach a point where I personally feel OK going back, but...it's really making me sad. I know I'm not alone here, but I was so excited for our trips this year.

 

[Miss Bella]

Thank goodness they sell packs of four. And ponchos.

You have to really like the parks to want this. We asked our kids how they felt. Settled on a few days at Universal then relaxation at Vero. I couldn’t do a week at Disney in August with a mask.

It rained so hard on our last trip the ponchos were worthless.
Im guessing a wet mask on my face will feel about as good as my wet socks and shoes.
When it rains everyone seeks shelter so there goes the social distancing.

 

[GoofGoof]

Where is this rule published? I don't see it on the "Know Before You Go" or FAQs page. The closest I see is this: "Guests must bring their own face coverings and wear them at all times, except when dining."

Maybe the distinction is that "dining" can only occur while seated...? But if that's what they're relying on, they'd really do better to spell that out.

From Disney Parks Blog know before you go:

• Appropriate Face Coverings: All guests 3 years of age and older, along with cast members and third-party operating-participant employees, will be required to wear an appropriate face covering while visiting Disney Springs. This is an important part of protecting both our guests and our cast. Please be sure you have an ample amount of face coverings for yourself and your party before you arrive, as you’ll need to wear them over your nose and mouth at all times (except when sitting at a dining table).

Welcome Back! Here’s What You Need to Know About the Phased Reopening of Disney Springs at Walt Disney World Resort

Wednesday, May 20, will be a great first step in the phased reopening of Walt Disney World Resort, as Disney Springs begins its initial reopening that morning. With the safety and well-being of our guests, cast members and third-party operating

disneyparks.disney.go.com

 

[danv3]

From Disney Parks Blog know before you go:

• Appropriate Face Coverings: All guests 3 years of age and older, along with cast members and third-party operating-participant employees, will be required to wear an appropriate face covering while visiting Disney Springs. This is an important part of protecting both our guests and our cast. Please be sure you have an ample amount of face coverings for yourself and your party before you arrive, as you’ll need to wear them over your nose and mouth at all times (except when sitting at a dining table).

Welcome Back! Here’s What You Need to Know About the Phased Reopening of Disney Springs at Walt Disney World Resort

Wednesday, May 20, will be a great first step in the phased reopening of Walt Disney World Resort, as Disney Springs begins its initial reopening that morning. With the safety and well-being of our guests, cast members and third-party operating

disneyparks.disney.go.com

Thanks. Looks to me like that's already changed since the DS reopening site doesn't mention that detail.

"As a reminder, please visit DisneySprings.com/reopening for the most up-to-date information on available shopping and dining locations, operating hours, new safety procedures and more."

 

[ToTBellHop]

It rained so hard on our last trip the ponchos were worthless.
Im guessing a wet mask on my face will feel about as good as my wet socks and shoes.
When it rains everyone seeks shelter so there goes the social distancing.

That’s why capacity will be significantly reduced.

 

[GoofGoof]

Thanks. Looks to me like that's already changed since the DS reopening site doesn't mention that detail.

"As a reminder, please visit DisneySprings.com/reopening for the most up-to-date information on available shopping and dining locations, operating hours, new safety procedures and more."

It’s right here on the Disney Springs page too:
Face Coverings: All Guests ages 3 and up, Cast Members and Operating Participant employees are required to wear an appropriate face covering. Guests must bring their own face coverings and wear them at all times, except when dining.

https://www.disneysprings.com/reopening/

 

[MisterPenguin]

According to this article, thermal scanners cannot reliably tell the difference in a temperature and other common causes.

"While the systems can sense elevated skin temperatures, they aren’t precise enough to tell whether someone has a fever or something else: The warmth of a person’s skin is often quite different from their core body heat. People with heavier builds, health conditions or hot flashes can trigger the system’s alarms; so, too, can anyone just walking in from a hot car or parking lot. "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/05/11/thermal-scanners-are-latest-technology-being-deployed-detect-coronavirus-they-dont-really-work/

It's unknown if Disney Parks or Springs will be using a thermal video camera for the initial temperature check. Places that use them make those that are flagged go to a separate place for a much more accurate medical grade individual scan.

CityWalk, from what I've seen of videos, is using only the individual, more accurate individual medical scan.

 

[Tink242424]

It will be interesting to see how places do without the requirement of masks when it comes to amusement parks. When comparing with Disney is pretty much mute though. No other place, amusement that is, has such a large contingent of foreigners visiting every day of the year. When you have 85% of people outside of Florida visiting WDW, not sure what the break up of the numbers from other countries, it becomes a whole different animal but I get what your saying.

Very true! It will also be important to see when borders open up again within Europe and then between Europe & the US. It will give us an indication on how effective the masks are at stopping the spread of disease as well as peoples tolerance level with wearing a mask for long periods of time. Just wanted to spread the information that Efteling will be opening on 20-May without a requirement to wear a mask and we can see how that works out...

 

[danv3]

It’s right here on the Disney Springs page too:
Face Coverings: All Guests ages 3 and up, Cast Members and Operating Participant employees are required to wear an appropriate face covering. Guests must bring their own face coverings and wear them at all times, except when dining.

https://www.disneysprings.com/reopening/

Right. It doesn't say "when sitting at a dining table" any more. That's a not insignificant distinction.

 

[GoofGoof]

Right. It doesn't say "while sitting at a table" any more. That's a really big distinction.

I suppose you could stand at your table but I don’t see the distinction

When you are in a restaurant you need to still wear a mask until you are seated at the table at which time you are appropriately physically distanced at least 6 feet from the nearest table. Anyone walking past your table like a waiter or another guest going to the bathroom would still need to wear a mask. That’s my take on the rule.

 

[Disney Dead Head]

I just can’t believe they aren’t being paid anything. At least they get meals, but they are trapped there. I guess Woth the cruise lines all nearly bankrupt it’s hard to expect they would pay the people but it’s really tough to see people stuck like that.

The Fantasy set sail for Europe with the crews from the other two boats to send the crews home

 

[peter11435]

The Fantasy set sail for Europe with the crews from the other two boats to send the crews home

The Magic not Fantasy

 

[GoofGoof]

The Magic not Fantasy

For the people who have been stuck there for weeks on end it’s not magic or a fantasy

 

[Andrew C]

Texas just mentioned they are monitoring Disney as a component to how they are going to handle the reopening of Texas theme parks (Six Flags, SeaWorld, etc.). Found that to be interesting.

 

[celluloid]

I worry about the accuracy of the scanner as a family that typically visits in the heat of August due to work schedules. I don’t mind the temperature check, but I wouldn’t want to be denied entry because it’s 105 degree real feel and my external body temp is high but I’m otherwise healthy.

Or if your child is teething. I am guessing that is where this vague recheck and screening concept come into play.

 

[Miss Bella]

The Magic not Fantasy

The Fantasy is in La Romana today. They are taking crew home to South and Central America.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Texas just mentioned they are monitoring Disney as a component to how they are going to handle the reopening of Texas theme parks (Six Flags, SeaWorld, etc.). Found that to be interesting.

If Texas is going to follow Federal guidelines to wait for two weeks of declining numbers before moving onto a next phase, like opening up theme parks... they got a long wait ahead of them...