Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Animaniac93-98]

Certainly defeats the point of eating/drinking around the World Showcase at Epcot.

I suspect Food and Wine as we know it might be put on hold for the time being.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

But I don't like that!! What about me?! I don't want to be uncomfortable!!

Have you tried filing a lawsuit? I hear that usually works.

 

[GoofGoof]

But we don’t know yet how this will actually be enforced.

NYC bakery and Joffreys don’t have seating for example. I can’t imagine they will be happy if guests are told they can’t consume their products.

Will there be an outdoor seating area set up for these and other establishments?

Is there a “doughnut” seating area for voo-doo at city walk?

I hadn’t seen the rules for City Walk so I don’t know what they are doing. There’s a chance they will add seating areas with temporary tables and chairs to DS and the parks or there’s also a chance not every place opens.

 

[jsand99]

Attendance will be limited so there will be enough room for everyone

They will add seating outside Aloha Isle, Sleepy Hollow, the Friar's Nook, etc? Or will most of these type of placed be closed?

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Will there be an outdoor seating area set up for these and other establishments?

I would hope more seating would be provided throughout the parks and Springs and Disney wouldn't just expect people to follow this particular rule without providing some extra help.

Also have "seasonal" places open if not to serve food, than at least give people somewhere to sit.

 

[sedati]

In the early 2000s the lap bar at the Tower of Terror was replaced by individual seat belts. Allowing a guest not to buckle their seat belt? I seriously doubt this claim. The guest in the freefall could be hurt or possibly killed.

I will forever remember a lady chewing out a cast member who told her she could not simply hold her baby on tower of terror. This was at the main entrance in full view of the plummeting elevators.

 

[Lilofan]

This is all true, however this is also a very different issue. Most people who want to break the rules you listed are a very tiny number of guests. And most of those rules don’t have an easy way around. If your kid is too short, it’s easy enough to enforce that rule, because the only way you can then get into the line, is by forcing yourself. it has happened before, but the number of guests that do that or may be one in 1 million, and it’s very easy to stop them once they get onto the actual ride themselves. All you do is you don’t start the ride. Yes, guests argue all the time, but enforcing it is actually SUPER easy. And same with restraints. You just don’t start the ride until they comply.
Same with bag checks and metal detectors. I don’t know anyone that has ever taken a stance against them to the point to where they would just blast through them - and even if they did, theyve got all that security and all those cops right there. They’re not getting far. Again - super easy to enforce. Plus, once you’re in the park, it’s not like your subjected to continuous bag checks and metal detectors everywhere.
As for masks, anyone can wear them into the park. And then anyone can take them off five feet into the park. A CM can remind them to put it on, but then they walk away and it’s off again. Another CM May see them, but they don’t know they’ve been told already. The guests could just get an endless series of warnings without ever being kicked out and still NOT wear the mask a majority of the day. The only way to ensure continual enforcement is to have the same CM keep an eye on them all day, which will be impossible. PLUS, there is a huge divide over the country right now with pro and anti mask people. This isn’t a small number like people trying to sneak their small children on rides or sneak past the metal detector. I think there will literally be thousands of guests who are against wearing a mask all day, and will get into the park while wearing one, and then take them off.
and then I think there will be another subset of guess he genuinely think the masks are doable in the heat, who support the mask requirement, but then find they can’t handle it and find themselves giving up.
I definitely agree with you that because this is a safety issue, there is a greater likelihood of it being enforced. But I also think the sheer number of people that are probably going to break the rules is going to make enforcement a nightmare, and very possibly short-lived.

If some company is going to find a way, it's going to be Disney. Chapek already made it known, it's policy starting with Disney Springs and execs that report to him will answer to him if it's not happening.

 

[GoofGoof]

There will add seating outside Aloha Isle, Sleepy Hollow, the Friar's Nook, etc? Or will most of these type of placed be closed?

They could also temporarily open places like Tomorrowland Terrance that would likely be closed when the park is at low capacity but it has a lot of seating. Some places probably won’t open too.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I hadn’t seen the rules for City Walk so I don’t know what they are doing. There’s a chance they will add seating areas with temporary tables and chairs to DS and the parks or there’s also a chance not every place opens.

Well we know nyc bakery and Joffreys are openning.

There is the large circle stage area where street shows perform in between the amphicar launch and the hangar bar. They could make that a designated eating / drinking area?

 

[sedati]

No one knows if they’ll be able to tolerate a mask in 95 degrees and 90% humidity for 8 hours. A lot of people seem to think they can, but can they?

I hope the parks open a few weeks before I plan to go so I can see how people manage this.

Hong Kong puts Orlando to shame with its heat and humidity, so it will be interesting to compare when they reopen.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

There is also the special needs part of this. There are children and adults who will not be able to safely wear face masks. For a short time period, Disney can just deny them entry especially right now when it’s just the springs. But eventually that will be a whole different thing for Disney to deal with.

Also... I think some on this forum think that questioning the policy = someone who wants to go to Disney and break the rules.

I’m 100% against the current security checks at Disney world. But I go through them, I thank the workers, and I follow the procedures.

If I go to Disney world with a mask rule in effect, I will follow the rules. That doesn’t mean I agree with them, and in fact as written I don’t agree with them at all.

Just got back from picking up a online order from Target and encountered this.
I went to the pick up desk right inside the front door and was waiting for my order when I heard a commotion behind me. A gentleman was trying to come in without a mask and was being told he couldn’t do that. He kept referring to page 5 of something, which he had in his back pocket. He was asking her why she wasn’t schooled on all the exceptions and why Target would not put someone at the front who knew. She kept saying I’m sorry, the manager is on his way. I’m guessing he either had a condition that wouldn’t allow him to wear one but I still felt like going over and telling him to lighten up. Don’t know how it ended, left before the manager got there.
But in thinking about it, what if someone tried to go into Disney and said the same thing? Would asking for proof be illegal like it is with other conditions someone might have?

 

[peter11435]

They will add seating outside Aloha Isle, Sleepy Hollow, the Friar's Nook, etc? Or will most of these type of placed be closed?

I would bet something like Friars Nook won’t be open for the the foreseeable future. That venue has been on again off again for years based on demand so I wouldn’t expect to see it for a while. The others you mention already have seating available.

 

[Polynesia]

My daughter saw this posted on a Disney Facebook group. Not saying it’s true. Just passing along another rumor perhaps.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Just got back from picking up a online order from Target and encountered this.
I went to the pick up desk right inside the front door and was waiting for my order when I heard a commotion behind me. A gentleman was trying to come in without a mask and was being told he couldn’t do that. He kept referring to page 5 of something, which he had in his back pocket. He was asking her why she wasn’t schooled on all the exceptions and why Target would not put someone at the front who knew. She kept saying I’m sorry, the manager is on his way. I’m guessing he either had a condition that wouldn’t allow him to wear one but I still felt like going over and telling him to lighten up. Don’t know how it ended, left before the manager got there.
But in thinking about it, what if someone tried to go into Disney and said the same thing? Would asking for proof be illegal like it is with other conditions someone might have?

I'm highly suspect of someone who would be willing to cause a commotion. Generally, I've found people who have unseen disabilities or conditions to be far more mellow and patient than that.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

I'm highly suspect of someone who would be willing to cause a commotion. Generally, I've found people who have unseen disabilities or conditions to be far more mellow and patient than that.

I agree. He had his paperwork, whatever that was.

 

[Rider]

In the early 2000s the lap bar at the Tower of Terror was replaced by individual seat belts. Allowing a guest not to buckle their seat belt? I seriously doubt this claim. The guest in the freefall could be hurt or possibly killed.

I think you misread. I'm saying Disney doesn't allow their rules to be bent when it comes to health and safety. We are in agreement.

There is also the special needs part of this. There are children and adults who will not be able to safely wear face masks. For a short time period, Disney can just deny them entry especially right now when it’s just the springs. But eventually that will be a whole different thing for Disney to deal with.

From what I've read the CDC says exceptions can be made for people who are physically or mentally unable to put a mask on themselves.

Those are just guidelines and Disney can do things differently. I make no guesses as to what they will actually do but going back to my original example: you don't see Disney letting someone on Tower of Terror if they can't physically or mentally wear the seatbelt, do you?

 

[HongKongFooy]

If the temperature is the same or higher, access to Disney Springs will be denied for the entire party.

If Mother in law fails the scan at the "soup Nazi" line and then looks at me stunned and angry and raises voice "Come on Hong Kong Foo we're leaving!!"

I would pull a Jerry,
"Do I know you?"

 

[Miss Bella]

I already know the answer for me and it's absolutely not. Could I survive it? Sure. But enjoy a day at Disney, no way. The production floor where I work is 90-100 degrees and 80%+ humidity at all times due to the nature of the process. I'm sweating under my mask within 5 minutes of just standing around. Within 20 minutes I'm looking for somewhere I can breath some cool air without a mask. Fortunately this week, my employer lifted the mask mandate in my department due to these conditions.

I went to WDW in June last year. We got soaked everyday. I wonder how a wet mask is going to feel sticking to my face.

How difficult is it to breath with a mask on and water pouring down on you?? It sounds like a familiar form of torture I’ve read about.

Lots of unknowns here and a lot to consider.

 

[wdisney9000]

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But we don’t know yet how this will actually be enforced.

NYC bakery and Joffreys don’t have seating for example. I can’t imagine they will be happy if guests are told they can’t consume their products.

Will there be an outdoor seating area set up for these and other establishments?

Is there a “doughnut” seating area for voo-doo at city walk?

It's ok, the corona virus is very selective and if you are in an enclosed environment with circulating air, such as an indoor restaurant, the virus will blow right past you.

It only cares to infect people while they are in wide open outdoor spaces or inside the queue of an attraction, even though an indoor queue is the same as a restaurant sans people eating/drinking. This virus is extremely intelligent. It knows when it's allowed to infect.

*/sarc (for those who are triggered to smash out on their keyboard that masks are about protecting others!!!!! blah, blah).

 

[danv3]

It’s the rule for Disney Springs right now. The only place where you don’t need a mask is seated at a restaurant. The speculation is the parks will have a similar rule.

Where is this rule published? I don't see it on the "Know Before You Go" or FAQs page. The closest I see is this: "Guests must bring their own face coverings and wear them at all times, except when dining."

Maybe the distinction is that "dining" can only occur while seated...? But if that's what they're relying on, they'd really do better to spell that out.