COP... tear down?

[Phil12]

I don't buy that.

Technically it's still the longest running American stage show. Plus it was huge in the origin story of DL/WDW.

The G.E. stuff is secondary at best, a factoid at worst, but still one of America's longest running companies.

It has nothing to do with the stage show. It's the building! Is it historic or not? You just can't jack up the Washington Monument and move it to Virginia without diminishing its historic value.

The longest running American stage show is an interesting factoid.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Hey smarty pants, I have a clue for you. First of all, I don't "watch" this thread. No amount of "unwatch" button of any kind is going to make it stop coming up in the new posts tab on the main page of the forums. Better luck being slick next time.

Then even easier - stop clicking on it if you know you don't like it LOL.

 

[prberk]

That the problem. The original building form the 1964 World's Fair would have significant historical value if it was still in its original location and operating as CoP. But with building reincarnations in Disneyland and WDW plus gut removal and re installation all seriously diminish historical value.

I don't think so, because in this case it is the show itself that has the most value -- even with its evolution and modest updates to the last scene, the show elements (including the AAs and the concept and inherent optimism) have remained mostly intact.

The cultural impact influence of Elvis' music has evolved over time, but it was not diminished just because the music and artwork moved from 45 to LP to 8-track to cassette to CD to MP-3 to streaming. The building is only the vessel in this case.

 

[No Name]

I pretty much agree with what Phil12 is saying. The attraction has lost much of its historical value because it's no longer the original attraction and no longer in the original place. Would the Statue of Liberty be as much of a historical site if it was disassembled, moved, and altered a few times? No, it would not.

But since CoP has already lost that originality, it's not being advertised, maintained, or updated enough to keep much fame. It's more like Groundhog Day with that problem of repeating the same scenes multiple times. If the ride/show were taken care of, I could see it becoming something on the must-do list of tourists.

I still do not think it should ever go and thankfully Disney hasn't taken it away. It still is pretty historical just by being the Carousel of Progress. That space could not be used in a beter way.

The building has never moved... aside from in circles....

Ummm.... what?
Edit: Nvm, ignore that.

 

[No Name]

Meaning the only 'moving' the show has done is actual show elements being transported between the Fair, DL, and WDW. At least that's what I assume Martin meant.

Oh okay so I guess he was joking in a way. I thought he was denying the fact that it's moved which would've made no sense. Nvm then, I should've read more carefully. Sorry Martin.

 

[mouse_luv]

Then even easier - stop clicking on it if you know you don't like it LOL.

 

[Phil12]

I don't think so, because in this case it is the show itself that has the most value -- even with its evolution and modest updates to the last scene, the show elements (including the AAs and the concept and inherent optimism) have remained mostly intact.

The cultural impact influence of Elvis' music has evolved over time, but it was not diminished just because the music and artwork moved from 45 to LP to 8-track to cassette to CD to MP-3 to streaming. The building is only the vessel in this case.

Surely you jest! The building IS the show. The entire concept is built around the fact that the stage is fixed and the audience rotates around the stage! If it weren't for that unusual feature, the show would have closed many years ago and joined the many forgotten Disneyland attractions such as Hollywood-Maxwell's Intimate Apparel Shop and the Mickey Mouse Club Circus.

Just imagine if Disney were to change the show so that the audience sat in a normal theater and the CoP stage scenes rotated instead of the audience. As Walt would say, the rotating building is the wienie.

The show and the AA's were there to sell GE dishwashers, vacuum cleaners, TV's, radios, refrigerators, ranges and all manner of other GE appliances.

What it holds for you and many others is nostalgia and that's perfectly fine. However, the show without the building is

 

[Goofyernmost]

Hall of Presidents.

The only reason that doesn't happen in 'Oh, Canada' is because they are forced to stand up and if they start to nod off, the start to fall and that wakes them up, eh.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

Gran Fiesta is what I'd like to call a "Taste of" IASW...So there is no reason for it to be brought there.

Sure, that one scene is extremely reminiscent, but what about the rest of the ride? I always thought that scene felt very out of place with the rest of the attraction. I think that they should put IASW somewhere in World Showcase and redo this scene into one that's more in line with the ride.

 

[zakattack99]

I doubt it..Guest still come no matter what...

Haha I forget sarcasm dose not go over the internet... my point being is the Smithsonian's are free and if they move to Disney we can have hope right? Lol

 

[Seabasealpha1]

So...if there were any weight to this thread...()

I'd say tear out the whole of Tomorrowland and redo all of it. It sucks. Period. Sometimes it reminds me of JC Penny. Dying. Badly cared for. Outdated.

There's nothing super redeeming about Tomorrowland at Disney World. Maybe Space Mountain. Maybe. Even that needs some loving.

And I wouldn't mind the tiki room and COP moving to the Smithsonian...would give me something to look forward to besides the Bill Clinton Monument.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I find the Tiki room so boring and yet enjoy the carousel of progress.

 

[CDavid]

The ride is paid for. Does one simply throw away their car when the car is finally paid off?

Well, if you're Disney and the car is a 1983 model Horizons, then yes you do.

 

[EOD K9]

It has nothing to do with the stage show. It's the building! Is it historic or not? You just can't jack up the Washington Monument and move it to Virginia without diminishing its historic value.

The longest running American stage show is an interesting factoid.

Because it would be the Virginia Monument named after the great American George Virginia.

 

[M-I-C-K-E-Y]

While the Smithsonian and Disney Family Museum are undoubtedly impressive, they might find it very difficult to keep the COP up and running... Imagine their mec-elecs having to tackle this relocated, archaic attraction. Just the Audio-Animatronics alone would push this addition past reasonable, unless they fixed each scene in position and asked visitors to use their vivid imaginations...

 

[dstrawn9889]

While the Smithsonian and Disney Family Museum are undoubtedly impressive, they might find it very difficult to keep the COP up and running... Imagine their mec-elecs having to tackle this relocated, archaic attraction. Just the Audio-Animatronics alone would push this addition past reasonable, unless they fixed each scene in position and asked visitors to use their vivid imaginations...

they could archive an imagineer and a couple of maintenance techs as well

 

[Magenta Panther]

The Tiki Room is wonderful. An enchanting little oasis. I can't understand why anyone would be "bored" by it. Maybe it needs more giant robots or something.

As for COP, I like it, but since its concept is based to some degree on future innovation, it's tough to keep it from seeming too dated. I really do worry that it won't be around much longer.

 

[donaldtoo]

This recent photo appears to confirm...

 

[Magenta Panther]

This recent photo appears to confirm...

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What is that?

 

[donaldtoo]

What is that?

Shhhhhhh...
Don't tell the others, but, it's actually a CoP construction pic...