CoP Continuity Problems

Thrill Seeker

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Original Poster
Ok, so I went on CoP twice yesterday and figured it was finally time to bring up the continuity problems with the show.

First off, there are two aspects in the first scene that do not carry over to the rest. The first is the young girl with Sarah the first time you see her. Apparently this third child vanishes from existence because she doesn't appear again in the show...

The second is Patricia's hair color. In the first scene, she's brunette, in all the rest, she's blond.

The third aspect that is not consistent is Grandma. She appears in 3 scenes and looks different in every scene. Now it could be different grandmas, but that isn't explained.

So there ya go, just some food for thought...
 

David

Active Member
And it's just amazing how the dad ages very little from beginning to end. Don't know what vitamins he's taking or how much he exercises, but he's stays in really good shape!
 

Enchantâmes

Active Member
Ok, so I went on CoP twice yesterday and figured it was finally time to bring up the continuity problems with the show.

First off, there are two aspects in the first scene that do not carry over to the rest. The first is the young girl with Sarah the first time you see her. Apparently this third child vanishes from existence because she doesn't appear again in the show...

The second is Patricia's hair color. In the first scene, she's brunette, in all the rest, she's blond.

The third aspect that is not consistent is Grandma. She appears in 3 scenes and looks different in every scene. Now it could be different grandmas, but that isn't explained.

So there ya go, just some food for thought...
That's because they're supposed to be different generations of the same family.
 

powlessfamily4

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That's because they're supposed to be different generations of the same family.


That is what I was going to say. It was my understanding they were 4 generation of the same family and that the story was a retelling of their generation. I might be wrong as I have never looked it up.
 

Tigger1988

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That's because it's not the exact same people from beginning to end. And if you actually listen closely to the TTA spiel they even say "tells the story of 4 families".
 

MissM

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That's because it's not the exact same people from beginning to end. And if you actually listen closely to the TTA spiel they even say "tells the story of 4 families".
No, the TTA narration is wrong. It's never supposed to be four different families, but the same family experiencing the changes of the years.
 

ChrisFL

Premium Member
It's actually the original Disney polygamist, the lead actually has 4 different families and he switches back and forth
 

Rob562

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I've always interpreted the show to be a "Quantum Leap" type thing... Dropping a "typical family" in each era, using the same one each time so that you can see how things change over the years, even within the context of each character.


Notice that telephones appear to not exist in the second and third scenes? And there IS one at the turn of the Century? (First Family must have been very well off)....

Patty's talking on the phone in the 3rd scene...

-Rob
 

powlessfamily4

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No, the TTA narration is wrong. It's never supposed to be four different families, but the same family experiencing the changes of the years.


If that is the case.... then dear old Dad would be close to 100 in the last scene. The beginning one is at the turn of the century and he is already married with a children. That would make him at least 20 something if not older. You flash forward to even 1950 and he would be 70.
 

Tigger1988

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No, the TTA narration is wrong. It's never supposed to be four different families, but the same family experiencing the changes of the years.

Doubtful. The father (and the mother for that matter) would be far too old for the last scene, if he even lived that long. Plus we're to believe the children are still in their teens/twenties after ALL that time? I'm going with the TTA on this one.
 

GenerationX

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Other possibilities:
1. They're a family of vampires and don't age.
2. In the garage is a DeLorean capable of 88 mph.
3. Walt's continuity editor was on an extended bender.
4. Uh, cheaper?
5. They're animatronic. They're not supposed to age.
 

MissM

Well-Known Member
Don't the kids have the same names throughout the show?
Yes, it's Patty and Jimmy. Dad is John and Mom is Sarah, FYI.

If that is the case.... then dear old Dad would be close to 100 in the last scene. The beginning one is at the turn of the century and he is already married with a children. That would make him at least 20 something if not older. You flash forward to even 1950 and he would be 70.
It's not supposed to be a literal passing of years. It's a story with familiar characters you follow through each scene. CoP also used to only go from 1890's - 1960's as well if you remember. It premiered at the 1964-5 World's Fair.

Doubtful. The father (and the mother for that matter) would be far too old for the last scene, if he even lived that long. Plus we're to believe the children are still in their teens/twenties after ALL that time? I'm going with the TTA on this one.
First, the TTA addition is extremely new. And still incorrect. Right from the opening script of the show:
You know, Walt loved the idea of progress and he loved the American family. He himself was probably as American as anyone could possibly be. He thought it would be fun to watch the American family go through the twentieth century experiencing all new wonders as they came. And he put them together in a show called Carousel of Progress, which we are about to see.
Note it does not say "four families."

Secondly, realize that when COP opened, the final scene was the 1960's. Just because they've updated it with a 1990's scene since then doesn't mean it's not supposed to represent the same family as if they were growing through the years. The actual ages are obviously not correct because it now spans over 100 years, but that's one of those take it with a pinch of Pixie Dust sorta things. You're supposed to suspend disbelief a little and in Disney of all places, this shouldn't be so hard a concept. :lol:

And whomever wrote the CoP article for Wikipedia did a good job explaining it further:
Not much is known about the family: we do not know their last name, where they live (aside from being somewhere in the United States), or if they ever change location. The family does not (nor are they meant to) age 100 years. They age 3–5 years as the show progresses, to demonstrate how slightly older individuals can better enjoy new technology. Each of the four scenes is set during a different season of the year, Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter, and on the day of a holiday that typifies each season. The progress of the year through the progress of the seasons metaphor for the progress of the development of the modern age of electricity.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Other possibilities:
1. They're a family of vampires and don't age.
2. In the garage is a DeLorean capable of 88 mph.
3. Walt's continuity editor was on an extended bender.
4. Uh, cheaper?
5. They're animatronic. They're not supposed to age.

6. They're Mormon Fundamentalists
 

wolf359

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The Peoplemover script being used today borrows quite a bit from the 70s version, including the Carousel's "four families" description.

If Disney thinks it's four families, how could it not be four families? I can't imagine something like that slipping through fact check twice.
 

Expo_Seeker40

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As from the world's fair....you are actually meeting the same family over and over again in each scene. They represent what the "typical" American family would be doing in those decades. They aren't meant to age in reality. Even with the world's fair ending, Mother would have been in her 80s in the 1960s and she looked hot, like Jackie O hot.

There are some issues....the girl in the first scene has been there since the world's fair version...we assume she died or was the first character to get epically killed off. The cat fluffy changes. James and Jane (now Patricia) change and get slightly older in each act. Patricia experiments with Clarol.

Yeah it's one great big beautiful loophole.
 

Tigger1988

Well-Known Member
Wikipedia is a lovely thing and all but anyone can write whatever they want. I could go in there and write that CoP is about eight families and publish it, wouldn't make it accurate.

This is directly from the original 1975-1985 Peoplemover script.

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Jack Wagner: We're now moving past the Carousel Of Progress. Where four warm and humorous families welcome you into their homes of yesterday and today, starting way back at the turn of the century. First presented at the New York World's Fair, this famous theater-in-the-round celebrates how progress through electricity has contributed to better living. [/FONT]

So, who do we believe. Disney, who has mentioned not once but twice that it's four families. Or a Wikipedia article written by Joe Anyman.

Once again, going with Disney.
 

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