Come on man!

[POLY LOVER]

My late father absolutely HATED scooters. He was a big guy but didn't look unhealthy otherwise. However, many years of truck driving left his knees and legs shot. He couldn't walk a few feet without immense pain in his legs. He had to use a scooter the last time we went to Disney as a family and felt like a complete inconvenience to everyone. I don't have any issues with scooters or the people that use them. I am actually quite thankful Disney has those to offer people who aren't able to walk.

People Not understanding that there are people in need of help to enjoy the simple things in life is cold hearted, Come On Man!

 

[Walt Disney1955]

Big Phil... let me explain something to you. You will almost never see an able bodied person on a scooter. What you will see are elderly people, perhaps overweight due to the fact that their joints no longer function like they did when the were young so therefore are unable to exercise, etc.

You will see people, like myself, who will also be called Obese that up until a month ago walked two miles per day played golf and was on the go all day, unable to do that due to spinal degeneration. I can no longer walk over 50 yards without severe pain from my left hip to my toes. I can no longer just stand there for endless hours without the same result. I may have been overweight all my life but I have never been lazy.

Due to having gone to WDW with a young lady that had severe back issues and also having to use one myself for a brief period of time, I witnessed first hand the hassle that using a scooter is. Let me give you an example or two. First you have to maneuver it through crowds of brain dead people that are so entitled that they think that every square inch of space is theirs and theirs alone. Do they look around to see what may be behind them or to the side of them. NO, they do not! They just step over to the side and, Oh my, look at the somebody was already there. They get hit and blame the person that THEY walked into for hitting them. Not to mention that the rider has to stare at everyone's butt the entire time and because they are driving a vehicle cannot see the full picture of a place like Disney. Then, in spite of the foolish claims that they "race" through the parks, generally walking is much faster and can take the most direct route to their destination. The time spent getting those things around more then makes up for whatever "laziness" motivation they might have had.

After I went to the park with the young lady with the back issues (I was dating her at the time) I spent time with a friend talking about how I was thinking of breaking up with her because she cramped my style. I couldn't see as many things as I usually did because we were always held up by those 'other' people that stopped in the path or just had to wait until a sufficient sized space opened up to get through. Two days later I had an accident that made me unable to walk for about three months and still 8 years later affects my freedom of movement because of damaged nerve endings in my leg that make it so that if I am not concentrating on my walking will result in a face plant for me. I guess that is what they call Karma.

So I guess my pet peeve would be someone that thinks they know something and they really don't. If I were you I'd hope that Karma isn't reading your post.

I understand what you are saying. By the way, big guy right here, 6'2" 280lbs. I don't look like a Disney fan, I look like a linebacker. I'm big. And I definitely factor into the idea that a person may not look handicapped (or just not able to walk long distances anymore) and actually is. I am just saying, let's face it, not everyone that needs a scooter NEEDS a scooter. I think you know this as well as I do. North America is the fattest and most out of shape place in the world (Canada, U.S., Mexico) with the latter surprisingly actually passing the U.S. in recent years. You have to figure there are people taking advantage of that who really could walk, no?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Ruining the Flying Fish (Cafe) menu.

 

[POLY LOVER]

Ruining the Flying Fish (Cafe) menu.

Let's add Seven Dragons to that , I was actually there and asked for hot mustard for my egg roll and they said they didn't have it? COME ON MAN!

 

[POLY LOVER]

I understand what you are saying. By the way, big guy right here, 6'2" 280lbs. I don't look like a Disney fan, I look like a linebacker. I'm big. And I definitely factor into the idea that a person may not look handicapped (or just not able to walk long distances anymore) and actually is. I am just saying, let's face it, not everyone that needs a scooter NEEDS a scooter. I think you know this as well as I do. North America is the fattest and most out of shape place in the world (Canada, U.S., Mexico) with the latter surprisingly actually passing the U.S. in recent years. You have to figure there are people taking advantage of that who really could walk, no?

Sure, but is that a Reason to indite everyone we see with a scooter? isnt that generalizing by Making a judgement on looks or appearance? Sure people skirt the rules and take advantage but let's not make everyone suffer for it. I just thank god I don't need one and hope I never will. I just move on and enjoy my day! Come on man enjoy!

 

[Goofyernmost]

I understand what you are saying. By the way, big guy right here, 6'2" 280lbs. I don't look like a Disney fan, I look like a linebacker. I'm big. And I definitely factor into the idea that a person may not look handicapped (or just not able to walk long distances anymore) and actually is. I am just saying, let's face it, not everyone that needs a scooter NEEDS a scooter. I think you know this as well as I do. North America is the fattest and most out of shape place in the world (Canada, U.S., Mexico) with the latter surprisingly actually passing the U.S. in recent years. You have to figure there are people taking advantage of that who really could walk, no?

Yes, I do understand that, and that is what I was saying. They might do it once, but, the negatives for a physically able person are many more then the positives, no matter how lazy one might be. Just the chance that the battery will go dead, which I have seen happen, it requires a whole lot of effort plus lost park time is more then enough negativity. What that means is that the problem is a whole lot smaller then I think you are imagining. Take away all the "lazy" factor and you have probably taken out about a dozen in the course of a day. There needs to be a whole lot less importance put on it. Just the cost alone, especially after the negatives are obvious, will stop that from happening again. We even rented one for an outside source and that hassle was even worse then the in park rentals are. It's just not a big enough problem that it needs to be pointed out constantly. Also even if the fattest, out of shape people on the planet are there, it still isn't something anyone would or should want to do. However, if those people that are grossly out of shape are using them, it still is a reason and justification for rentals. Unless, of course your idea of a fun day at the park is stepping over dead bodies all day.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

Yes, I do understand that, and that is what I was saying. They might do it once, but, the negatives for a physically able person are many more then the positives, no matter how lazy one might be. Just the chance that the battery will go dead, which I have seen happen, it requires a whole lot of effort plus lost park time is more then enough negativity. What that means is that the problem is a whole lot smaller then I think you are imagining. Take away all the "lazy" factor and you have probably taken out about a dozen in the course of a day. There needs to be a whole lot less importance put on it. Just the cost alone, especially after the negatives are obvious, will stop that from happening again. We even rented one for an outside source and that hassle was even worse then the in park rentals are. It's just not a big enough problem that it needs to be pointed out constantly. Also even if the fattest, out of shape people on the planet are there, it still isn't something anyone would or should want to do. However, if those people that are grossly out of shape are using them, it still is a reason and justification for rentals. Unless, of course your idea of a fun day at the park is stepping over dead bodies all day.

Sure, but is that a Reason to indite everyone we see with a scooter? isnt that generalizing by Making a judgement on looks or appearance? Sure people skirt the rules and take advantage but let's not make everyone suffer for it. I just thank god I don't need one and hope I never will. I just move on and enjoy my day! Come on man enjoy!

Like I was saying, not everyone is skirting the rules. Some do need it, I think we can all agree on this. I look back at old photos, why were there virtually no scooters anywhere? Not to mention what seemed like perhaps a more mature crowd? Why didn't people use them more then? Could it be we were less entitled? (just re-iterating, not talking about the elderly who are crippled)

 

[POLY LOVER]

Like I was saying, not everyone is skirting the rules. Some do need it, I think we can all agree on this. I look back at old photos, why were there virtually no scooters anywhere? Not to mention what seemed like perhaps a more mature crowd? Why didn't people use them more then? Could it be we were less entitled? (just re-iterating, not talking about the elderly who are crippled)

Entitled to what, entitled to use a scooter? Come on man. Let's be honest you are making judgements that you really don't know about who does or doesn't need a scooter. We assume and that is bad! Never assume.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

Entitled to what, entitled to use a scooter? Come on man. Let's be honest you are making judgements that you really don't know about who does or doesn't need a scooter. We assume and that is bad! Never assume.

Entitled to not get off their butts and walk? Which might be a good thing. I keep my mouth shut, for the simple reason that maybe someone has MS or arthritis and I don't know about it. You are right, there are those people that do not look like they need a scooter but do. But at least admit part of me is right as well in that there are just flat out lazy people who don't want to be bothered to walk.

 

[POLY LOVER]

Entitled to not get off their butts and walk? Which might be a good thing. I keep my mouth shut, for the simple reason that maybe someone has MS or arthritis and I don't know about it. You are right, there are those people that do not look like they need a scooter but do. But at least admit part of me is right as well in that there are just flat out lazy people who don't want to be bothered to walk.

Yep I'm sure there are some! Let me give you my story, my father in law had a heart condition and cancer. On the surface he looked fine, you would never know it by his appearance. The conditions made him tire easy and his stamina just wasn't there specially in the heat. We wanted the entire family to have one last Disney vacation. The only way that could have been made possible is by using a scooter which his pride just wouldn't allow. I think it made him self conscious because people would look and assume he was scamming the system. He finally agreed, we had our last time in the parks. I made a vow that day I would never judge a person using a scooter because I just don't really know what's going on in their life. So I say Come On Man, don't judge lest we be judged! I go to the parks, I focus on my family I try to be nice to all that I meet and have a good time. Big Phil I respect your opinion.

 

[disneyspirit]

A few years ago my husband developed plantar fasciitis and he couldn't walk a half mile. We already had reservations and da*ned if we weren't going anyway. One thing I learned, the scooters are not as much fun as you might think, it's really hard to deal with the crowds.
Heck, the way people stop suddenly when you're walking along, I sometimes almost run into them and I'm on two feet. Add to that, if
anyone happened to be watching, they might draw the conclusion that he was a fraud, since he'd ride up to an attraction, park it and
walk inside. Being stuck using a scooter was so not fun that we skipped the next year because he still couldn't walk far, and that's saying something. You really can't tell just by looking.

 

[MaryJaneP]

Does ANYONE look behind them, be they on foot, pushing a stroller, or on a scooter, to avoid those behind them? To ask one group to do so and not ask all the others to exercise the same courtesy is wrong. Come on, man!

 

[MissingDisney]

Main Street Bakery cinnamon rolls replaced by the smaller, imposter, less-tasty, how-dare-you-call-yourself-a-cinnamon-roll at Gaston’s Tavern....C’MON MAN!

 

[POLY LOVER]

Main Street Bakery cinnamon rolls replaced by the smaller, imposter, less-tasty, how-dare-you-call-yourself-a-cinnamon-roll at Gaston’s Tavern....C’MON MAN!

That's a double come on man! Lord they are bad! It's like someone took a loaf of white bread and smeared some cinnamon and sweet goo on them. However the bakery on the boardwalk has a real great bun, try it sometime!

 

[MissingDisney]

That's a double come on man! Lord they are bad! It's like someone took a loaf of white bread and smeared some cinnamon and sweet goo on them. However the bakery on the boardwalk has a real great bun, try it sometime!

we have but I seriously miss starting my MK day with that sweet thangs!

 

[Goofyernmost]

Like I was saying, not everyone is skirting the rules. Some do need it, I think we can all agree on this. I look back at old photos, why were there virtually no scooters anywhere? Not to mention what seemed like perhaps a more mature crowd? Why didn't people use them more then? Could it be we were less entitled? (just re-iterating, not talking about the elderly who are crippled)

They didn't have them then so people with this type of disability had to stay home and stare at four walls while the rest of the world had a good time. It wasn't an issue back then. You had a physical problem you stayed home. You had a mental problem you were institutionalized. I like the current system much better.

 

[POLY LOVER]

They didn't have them then so people with this type of disability had to stay home and stare at four walls while the rest of the world had a good time. It wasn't an issue back then. You had a physical problem you stayed home. You had a mental problem you were institutionalized. I like the current system much better.

You make a great point , if out of a hundred people using a scooter and 10% are cheating but it allows 90 people some joy that in past years would not have had the chance it's worth it for me to ignore the cheaters. Come on man let's look at the positive!

 

[Walt Disney1955]

Yep I'm sure there are some! Let me give you my story, my father in law had a heart condition and cancer. On the surface he looked fine, you would never know it by his appearance. The conditions made him tire easy and his stamina just wasn't there specially in the heat. We wanted the entire family to have one last Disney vacation. The only way that could have been made possible is by using a scooter which his pride just wouldn't allow. I think it made him self conscious because people would look and assume he was scamming the system. He finally agreed, we had our last time in the parks. I made a vow that day I would never judge a person using a scooter because I just don't really know what's going on in their life. So I say Come On Man, don't judge lest we be judged! I go to the parks, I focus on my family I try to be nice to all that I meet and have a good time. Big Phil I respect your opinion.

I can understand that.

 

[graphite1326]

You brought an infant to WDW? Come on,man/woman!

I just don't know why they do this. Infants and even young children just don't remember. I waited until my youngest was 6 so he could ride on everything and when I ask him now if he remembers anything about it he says no.

 

[donaldtoo]

well it is getting a rename, which I'm sure will soften the blow a little. But the loss of the animation academy is really sad, I feel like it could still stay in modern hollywood studios, like as a post ride experience after mickey and minnie, but there's no evidence it will ever come back. come on man!

But, even if it did come back at this new attraction, would we be drawing Mickey and gang (and yes, I am fully aware of the way Mickey looked in the beginning) in more recent times, or would we be drawing the newer Cartoon Network version...?!
Come on man!