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Rumor Coco attraction coming to DCA
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Phroobar
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Snack moms!
Stevek
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If it's a small ride it could replace Goofy's Sky School (mercifully).
If it's a big ride, it could/should/would go on Pixar Pier. Using the giant yet pointless facade they built that is obviously designed to be a portal to a new attraction. But they only used it as a bandstand area for the Pixarmonic orchestra that lasted one summer before Mr. Chapek cut them.
This portal area leads to the backstage area, via a queue space/walkway. Using the eternally helpful Bioreconstruct and his aerial photos he offers on Twitter, here is an overhead view of Pixar Pier from March, 2019.
While my glassware chills in the freezer prior to the 5 o'clock bell, I have taken the liberty of labeling a few key areas.
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Outlined in dark blue and labeled "C" for Coco is the backstage area that sits directly south of the coaster and directly south of the "Pixar Promenade" entry portal shown above and noted in red with an arrow pointing the way for the queue entry tunnel. The largest white building next to the coaster was the original parade warehouse built in 2001. The building across the way appears to be a back of house warehouse or offices.
Outlined next door in green and labeled "M" is Midway Mania built in 2007, for reference and size comparison.
In the left corner outlined in gold and labeled "G" is Goofy's Sky School.
At upper right outlined in orange and labeled "P" is the "new" parade warehouse they built in 2002 to house the Electrical Parade.
There's plenty of room to build a big dark ride south of the Incredicoaster at Pixar Pier. There's actually a third office/warehouse building that got cut out of Bioreconstruct's photo above but is visible via Google Earth. The Pixar Promenade portal design is obviously meant for something more long term, and is a striking entrance to... something.
Oh, look at that, the clock just struck 5 o'clock! I have to go now.
Maybe the G-Spot
all the way over to the end of the Mermaid building. You'd have to get rid of Corn Dog Castle and the souvenir shop.
TragicMike
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Hopefully, it would almost be a guaranteed hit in Southern California.
SeanNyberg
New Member
If they are looking for a cheap overlay, which I understand needs to happen for theming purposes, am I the only one that thinks slapping some big balloon bundle facade on the Jellyfish Jumpers and having it be themed for UP ??
I know we don't LOVE overlays, but they are a reality and I think this would be an obvious one that would continue the Pixar Pier wrap around. I know SSS would be caught in the middle, that can be worked around.
I just think the Jellyfish Jumpers and the Golden Zephyrs are so weirdly themed at this point. So, if the budget only allows for an overlay, put some dang balloons on it, grab the Giacchino score, and give that movie some love.
I know we don't LOVE overlays, but they are a reality and I think this would be an obvious one that would continue the Pixar Pier wrap around. I know SSS would be caught in the middle, that can be worked around.
I just think the Jellyfish Jumpers and the Golden Zephyrs are so weirdly themed at this point. So, if the budget only allows for an overlay, put some dang balloons on it, grab the Giacchino score, and give that movie some love.
Stevek
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Don't give them any ideas but yes, that would be an upgrade. As you say, the two attractions there now really don't fit in with anything.If they are looking for a cheap overlay, which I understand needs to happen for theming purposes, am I the only one that thinks slapping some big balloon bundle facade on the Jellyfish Jumpers and having it be themed for UP ??
I know we don't LOVE overlays, but they are a reality and I think this would be an obvious one that would continue the Pixar Pier wrap around. I know SSS would be caught in the middle, that can be worked around.
I just think the Jellyfish Jumpers and the Golden Zephyrs are so weirdly themed at this point. So, if the budget only allows for an overlay, put some dang balloons on it, grab the Giacchino score, and give that movie some love.
Phroobar
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It's a good idea. The Golden Zephyrs could be repainted to Buzz Lightyear colors. I still think the Green Army Men parachute would work for the Jumping Jellyfish. That is what many Toy Story lands have. It's the same ride.If they are looking for a cheap overlay, which I understand needs to happen for theming purposes, am I the only one that thinks slapping some big balloon bundle facade on the Jellyfish Jumpers and having it be themed for UP ??
I know we don't LOVE overlays, but they are a reality and I think this would be an obvious one that would continue the Pixar Pier wrap around. I know SSS would be caught in the middle, that can be worked around.
I just think the Jellyfish Jumpers and the Golden Zephyrs are so weirdly themed at this point. So, if the budget only allows for an overlay, put some dang balloons on it, grab the Giacchino score, and give that movie some love.
From WDW side of the thread
So it’s look like it will be opening in DCA right after Marvel Land Phase 2. Question is, where would it go?
BubbaisSleep
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Yes! I mean that whole area all the way down to The Little Mermaid can go. Though the eating area is lovely though I'm sure they'd replace it with another one just as nice.
Phroobar
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How often does Disney EVER get to Phase 2?
mickEblu
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Maybe I don’t know about that posters history but it sounds like he is asking WDWpro if those dates are correct, probably based off some old rumors. Where is it confirmed that it’s coming to DCA in the early 2020’s?
Californian Elitist
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Disney has not announced anything regarding this, and therefore it’s not confirmed.
mickEblu
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No I know. Confirmed is the wrong word. I meant to say acknowledged by an insider and not just a guy asking questions.
Not even Disney confirming something means it’s confirmed. Remember the 4th hotel? Confirmed means it’s built and open.
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Californian Elitist
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Facts.
Ismael Flores
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I wonder if the large parade building behind Incredicoaster is something that can be replaced. seems like they have no plans for DCA to get a parade back since they cover the parade route with food booths a good chunk of the year. It would be a great place to build a large show building and then use most of the midway games for queue space.
I know the back roads have to stay there behind DCA because its used as a bypass but last few times i have been thru there i have noticed that the power lines only hover over half of the property. the area directly below it is used as the bypass road and the other half of the property that consist of another two lanes and some oddly placed parking spaces is separated by semi permanent cones. This area is used to store junk so its obvious that it is not needed anymore for the required bypass.
If they were to reclaim that piece of land they can easily reroute the backstage road and increase the footprint of the parade building area.
Ismael Flores
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i had suggested something similar way back when they were redesigning the area. surprisingly that whole corner area including the two eateries is almost the size of New Orleans square including the first show building of Pirates.
Now that they have created a nice relaxing area to sit and eat i think they have other options to increase the goofy footprint without destroying the beer garden.
Ismael Flores
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I would rather have Coco on the Pier but in regards to the goofy sky scool area, i think this would be possible and it would increase the footprint for another much needed dark ride in the western area of the park.
1) remove jumpin jellyfish and if needed move it over to the large green area between grizzley rapids and soarin. There is plenty of room for this ride that takes a small footprint and still be able to preserve the nicely dense landscape. For better fit in the area and to keep hide it from the hotel a reroute of the main walkway could be easily accomplished. The new ride would be rethemed to parachutes/smokejumpers. This will keep the parks attraction count and at the same time give families with small children that nearby ride that they could experience while the taller children ride Soarin.
I placed the attraction to scale in the area i am suggesting in the picture below. Not only would it be heavily landscaped with existing trees but they also have the perfect plane prop right next to it.
2) now with the jumping jellyfish removed, that piece of land along with the hidden walkway - the almost unnoticeable sand pit behind and the beer shack would be leveled off. This new piece of land would be the new 2 story location for an eatery/seaside bar and restroom faiclity. The location would consist of the main first floor that has the walk up windows and some seating. The second floor would be similar to Hungry bear eating area but themed to match the seaside theme. To add seating area the bottom of the silly symphony section could be turned into a nice lounge area similar to what they did with the lamplight lounge but non reservation.
In the picture below i placed the garden grill and restroom facility for size comparison in this area. The piece of land is actually a bit larger than those two buildings actually take. They would obviously design a structure that fits the properties shape and location and maybe even reclaim some of the oddly shaped water entries in that area using wooden boardwalk features. The eatery should be designed so that the structure nests against the parade route as much as possible and create seating area along the waters edge if possible in the first floor.
3) re-align the parade route section that runs east to west. push the parade route south several feet so that it cradles this new area and then relocate the entry arch for the Paradise garden area so that it now faces south east-doing this will add several feet to the property used by the corn dog castle, vending carts and goofy extended queue area.
4) eliminate the garden grill and restroom facility which has now bee relocated to the former jumping jellyfish,beer shack sand pit area. use the piece of property where the garden grill was to be turned into the yearly festival section. This section would have a relocated gazebo and wooden covering that nestles the goofy sky scool ride. The removed restroom area would be the main point for attraction backstage access.
The only issue would be that the large show building would tower the garden area which might be ok if they create some nicely themed facades that bring life to the area using props-Think the flower market or new Orleans square.
I thinkt he main goal that WDI needs to consider is to maximize park space and add capacity to the park. Paradise area is lacking in attractions that the whole family can enjoy together. The attractions that are there might be to intense for several members of the family and even if they are not they have to close for WOC. The closure of those attractions leaves half of the park with little to do and if you include Hollywood picture backlot then you have most of the park that is lacking of things to do in the evening.
Even the small change of the jumping jelly fish to the grizzley area allows that simple attraction to stay open all day in an area that also goes dead because people don't like to get wet in evenings on rapids when it gets chilly and when the playgorund is closed because its dark leaving only Soarin.
1) remove jumpin jellyfish and if needed move it over to the large green area between grizzley rapids and soarin. There is plenty of room for this ride that takes a small footprint and still be able to preserve the nicely dense landscape. For better fit in the area and to keep hide it from the hotel a reroute of the main walkway could be easily accomplished. The new ride would be rethemed to parachutes/smokejumpers. This will keep the parks attraction count and at the same time give families with small children that nearby ride that they could experience while the taller children ride Soarin.
I placed the attraction to scale in the area i am suggesting in the picture below. Not only would it be heavily landscaped with existing trees but they also have the perfect plane prop right next to it.
2) now with the jumping jellyfish removed, that piece of land along with the hidden walkway - the almost unnoticeable sand pit behind and the beer shack would be leveled off. This new piece of land would be the new 2 story location for an eatery/seaside bar and restroom faiclity. The location would consist of the main first floor that has the walk up windows and some seating. The second floor would be similar to Hungry bear eating area but themed to match the seaside theme. To add seating area the bottom of the silly symphony section could be turned into a nice lounge area similar to what they did with the lamplight lounge but non reservation.
In the picture below i placed the garden grill and restroom facility for size comparison in this area. The piece of land is actually a bit larger than those two buildings actually take. They would obviously design a structure that fits the properties shape and location and maybe even reclaim some of the oddly shaped water entries in that area using wooden boardwalk features. The eatery should be designed so that the structure nests against the parade route as much as possible and create seating area along the waters edge if possible in the first floor.
3) re-align the parade route section that runs east to west. push the parade route south several feet so that it cradles this new area and then relocate the entry arch for the Paradise garden area so that it now faces south east-doing this will add several feet to the property used by the corn dog castle, vending carts and goofy extended queue area.
4) eliminate the garden grill and restroom facility which has now bee relocated to the former jumping jellyfish,beer shack sand pit area. use the piece of property where the garden grill was to be turned into the yearly festival section. This section would have a relocated gazebo and wooden covering that nestles the goofy sky scool ride. The removed restroom area would be the main point for attraction backstage access.
The only issue would be that the large show building would tower the garden area which might be ok if they create some nicely themed facades that bring life to the area using props-Think the flower market or new Orleans square.
I thinkt he main goal that WDI needs to consider is to maximize park space and add capacity to the park. Paradise area is lacking in attractions that the whole family can enjoy together. The attractions that are there might be to intense for several members of the family and even if they are not they have to close for WOC. The closure of those attractions leaves half of the park with little to do and if you include Hollywood picture backlot then you have most of the park that is lacking of things to do in the evening.
Even the small change of the jumping jelly fish to the grizzley area allows that simple attraction to stay open all day in an area that also goes dead because people don't like to get wet in evenings on rapids when it gets chilly and when the playgorund is closed because its dark leaving only Soarin.