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spacemt354

spacemt354

Chili's
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spacemt354 said:
Fantasyland - Club 32 - Recap 3/7/2017​

Synopsis​
The main goal of this project is to design a brand new Fantasyland for a yet to be named/located Magic Kingdom-style park. Starting from scratch with the land will allow us to use our creativity to the max -- and hopefully allow everyone to pursue their interests for inclusions in the land.

From Brainstorming:

1 - We've gone back and forth on various IPs and story-lines to settle into various "mini-lands" -- recreating the environments from classic Disney animated films and characters.
2 - We've also veered towards the exclusion of "it's a small world" from the land, citing World Showcase, monorail, or a World's Fair mini-land as possible areas for it down the road.
3 - As more and more ideas began to flow in -- @LSCreative had the great idea to take it one "mini-land" at a time, focus on it, agree, then move on, rather than try to come up with the whole land at once.

And that is where we are now. While I won't go through all of the IPs that have been discussed -- I'll cite the various IPs that over the last few pages we seem to be coming to grips with and multiple people are in agreement with. We can start with these tomorrow, allow everyone to catch up/chime in...and then move forward in the brainstorming process.:)

Mary Poppins Jolly Holiday Attraction
@kap91 and a possible 3D model by @LSCreative -- Mary Poppins inclusion supported by @OvertheHorizon
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Maleficent/Villains Castle Roller Coaster and Underworld Boat Ride
@MonorailRed and @spacemt354
- Just discussed recently, both of these attractions would be interwoven and connected. (similar to the two Pandora attractions) Would add additional dining, M&Gs, streetmosphere for a larger Villains mini-land.

Alice in Wonderland Attraction
mentioned by both @FigmentPigments and @Brer Oswald

Beauty and the Beast Attraction
mentioned by @kmbmw777

Casey Jr. "Peoplemover" Attraction
discussed by @Imagineerland and @michmousefan
- Personally I think this would be a great touch around the land -- and be a new form of attraction to most Magic Kingdom Fantasylands -- a transport similar to the peoplemover.
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There were several other attractions discussed, such as Treasure Planet by @MCParradox -- acting as a transition to Tomorrowland, but I'd like to hear more from him first before bumping it up to a more finalized position. :bookworm: And also @orlando678- 's parade which we could include, and a stage show discussed by LSCreative.

For the other attractions -- before adding them on and compounding the list -- following LSCreative's suggestion, I agree that it's best to start with this and then go forward. It'll give us a great jumping off point to discuss.

Have a good night everyone! See you all tomorrow morning!:)
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@warfelg
@michmousefan
@Sephirenn

Don't want to leave you out -- in case you don't have time to read through all the pages - here's where we stand.:)
 
michmousefan

michmousefan

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MCParradox said:
I agree with all of this. I'm a big sucker for cohesiveness, and grouping by locations is likely the route we'll go down. I agree with the Villains getting their own small but separate land behind Fantasyland, and Treasure Planet is definitely more on the Tomorrowland side of things. That said, if we are moving forward with a Discovery Bay idea bridging the gap between TL and FL, it'd fit best in there, along with the proposed Atlantis sub ride. Also, I don't know if I've said already, but the Casey Jr ride travelling through the land like the PeopleMover is also a great plan! Maybe we could look at Paris's Casey Jr for inspiration?
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I could see it going through a series of elevation changes, sometimes going over things, sometimes under, sometimes through. There's a piece of concept art for Paris's Fantasyland that immediately comes to mind. I have it in a book here, I'll dig it out later.
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Yep, this could really work well. I'm just trying to think of an overall "concept" that will be unique yet not distract from the attractions and mini-lands that it passes through. What kind of universal theme could be used for the transport? Going too much like a circus train might be too literal... I think I keep coming back to the notion of a "flying" transport because it works well as a sightseeing device a bit better than a train (it adds the dimension of being able to look under where you are going). Plus, some kind of hanging transport would be different enough from the more traditional peoplemover system in TL (assuming our new park's TL has a peoplemover!). Thoughts?
 
Brer Oswald

Brer Oswald

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MCParradox said:
I agree with all of this. I'm a big sucker for cohesiveness, and grouping by locations is likely the route we'll go down. I agree with the Villains getting their own small but separate land behind Fantasyland, and Treasure Planet is definitely more on the Tomorrowland side of things. That said, if we are moving forward with a Discovery Bay idea bridging the gap between TL and FL, it'd fit best in there, along with the proposed Atlantis sub ride. Also, I don't know if I've said already, but the Casey Jr ride travelling through the land like the PeopleMover is also a great plan! Maybe we could look at Paris's Casey Jr for inspiration?
casey5.jpg

I could see it going through a series of elevation changes, sometimes going over things, sometimes under, sometimes through. There's a piece of concept art for Paris's Fantasyland that immediately comes to mind. I have it in a book here, I'll dig it out later.

Also, on the topic of Discovery Bay, back in the House Cup, team Ravenclaw worked on a similar proposal, but I had to drop out before I saw it finished. I'll have a look back and see what happened with it, and if there's anything we can copy across or take inspiration from.



I like the layout of these lands, but is there no Main Street? At some point I might have a quick go at zoning just to establish the lands' relationships with each other, nothing too fleshed out just yet.
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Lol I forgot Main Street :hilarious:. What would a Magic Kingdom park be without it?
 
FigmentPigments

FigmentPigments

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michmousefan said:
Yep, this could really work well. I'm just trying to think of an overall "concept" that will be unique yet not distract from the attractions and mini-lands that it passes through. What kind of universal theme could be used for the transport? Going too much like a circus train might be too literal... I think I keep coming back to the notion of a "flying" transport because it works well as a sightseeing device a bit better than a train (it adds the dimension of being able to look under where you are going). Plus, some kind of hanging transport would be different enough from the more traditional peoplemover system in TL (assuming our new park's TL has a peoplemover!). Thoughts?
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I actually agree. Casey Jr is a good idea, but I think it could really stick out in certain areas. I think a flying transport would fit better as people tend to look left, right, behind, down but rarely up.
 
Brer Oswald

Brer Oswald

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Fantasyland Forest:
-Alice Trackless Ride
-Tangled
-Snow White
-Maybe Pooh Dark Ride

European Village:
-Pinocchio Boat ride
-Mr Toad coaster
-Marry Poppins Jolly Holiday
-Peter Pan, which would transition into Neverland
-Batb

Mediterranean:
-Little Mermaid?

Circus:
-Dumbo
-Casey Jr. Station

These are just rough ideas. List the IPs that I missed. :)
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
michmousefan said:
Yep, this could really work well. I'm just trying to think of an overall "concept" that will be unique yet not distract from the attractions and mini-lands that it passes through. What kind of universal theme could be used for the transport? Going too much like a circus train might be too literal... I think I keep coming back to the notion of a "flying" transport because it works well as a sightseeing device a bit better than a train (it adds the dimension of being able to look under where you are going). Plus, some kind of hanging transport would be different enough from the more traditional peoplemover system in TL (assuming our new park's TL has a peoplemover!). Thoughts?
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Seems pretty reasonable to me!
 
kap91

kap91

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Brer Oswald said:
Also could Atlantis use the ride system of Journey to the Center of the Earth/Test Track? I feel like the movie focused more on underground exploration than it did underwater.
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Actually could be a good fit for the amphibious vehicle @Imagineerland created for their Indiana jones ride.

I think Casey Jr as a peoplemover would fit with most of the IPs that have been tossed around. For the few that it doesn't that can simply be where it dips indoors for its own exclusive show scenes for IPs that aren't otherwise included in the land. Also keep in mind Casey Jr is a story that exists outside of Dumbo in the form of the Little Engine that Could and it's a train which allows it to theoretically go anywhere there are tracks.
 

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