Checkpoints at MK for EMH

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L Fisher

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If Disney is going to start making "non resort" guest leave early for EMH..GREAT!! However it's going to be an adjustment for all "castmember's/non resort guests" Everyone has been able to shop or grab some icecream after the park closes or getting ready to close..I personally think they should advise "non resort" guest that all food/shops in the park except for "Main Street" are closed to them and that they'll have a certain amount of time on Main Street to do what they need to do..Disney should also put a rope up by the end of "Main Street" to only let those who pass with a wristband..Like I said it's going to be an adjustment for all who are involved. Disney should also advertise on park guides, signs, etc to make it known what will transpire on EMH's so people know what to expect when they're not able to attend.
 
wickedfan07

wickedfan07

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dizryan said:
"Park closing" means just that: the park is closed. If you are allowed to do anything at all past closing time, it is at Disney's whim, and it can be changed without notice or without any credence to what has happened in the past.
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Yes, park closing means the park is closed. However, theme parks don't turn into pumpkins at closing time. The sidewlks don't get rolled up; the doors aren't immediately locked.

Service has alawys been, and should always be, the hallmark of Walt Disney World. When you start treating some people differently because of their choice of accomodation, you wipe away the biggest reason people choose Disney over other vacations destinations. You may have paid more for your room, but I paid exactly the same price as you to get in to the park. This means that I am a Disney theme park Guest and have the same right as you do to enjoy my vacation. This means that Disney cares about the show I see and the service I recieve, too. Judging by the number of cars in the parking lots on a given day, my guess is that Disney cares and awful lot about what off-property Guests think. After all, in the future, those Guests may become Resort Guests. Who knows?

Locking non-resort Guests out of stores at closing time is both bad show and poor service. Let Show and Service go out the window and you might as well go to Six Flags.

Extra Magic Hours is a perk for Resort Guests, and NOT a reason to penalize those Guests whose circumstances prevented them from the opportunity to stay on-property. I don't mean that non-resort Guests should be allowed to straggle for three hours, but I am asking those of you who have an elitist attitude to be fair and allow your fellow Guests the opportunity to shop and get snacks (on Main Street, Innoventions Plaza, Discovery Island, etc.) for 30 to 45 minutes. Everyonme has been allowed to do this in the past, and should always be allowed to in the future.

"To all who come to this happy place, welcome. Disneyland is your land..."

:)

EDIT: Just to be clear, I have no problem with checkpoints around the park or checking for wristbands at the entrances of attractions.
 
mrssparrow

mrssparrow

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This is definitely needed! There are a lot of people during EMH that do not have wristbands on.... When we were there a few weeks back, we were at AK in line for characters and a CM was checking the line for wristbands and asking people to leave. They were a bit upset, but it was well over 1 1/2 hours after the park closing.
 
cymbaldiva

cymbaldiva

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Figment82 said:
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying here. I don't understand what you mean by "emergency" - I am merely saying that most guests are under the (correct) impression that the big stores will stay open later than the park to allow guests to do some end-of-night shopping.

By suddenly, on one or two nights a week, closing the shop off promptly at closing time, you confuse and anger a huge number of guests. Trust me, it is not a pretty picture!

I am not laying guilt on anybody - I am merely saying that I feel it is only right to allow the same procedures that occur on any normal operating day to continue on EMH. The shops allow all guests to do their shopping without kicking anyone out. By closing the door to only those with wristbands, you are upsetting a large number of people. Thus, I feel you can understand it is not the proper thing to do and Disney is handling it correctly.
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All I was saying is that I thought the last bit of a post was a bit dramatic ... it was something about being the one to tell small children they couldn't have a toy because their parent didn't stay in a Disney resort. Just seemed a bit overstated is all.

Peace! :wave:
 
Dwarful

Dwarful

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wickedfan07 said:
Yes, park closing means the park is closed. However, theme parks don't turn into pumpkins at closing time. The sidewlks don't get rolled up; the doors aren't immediately locked.

Service has alawys been, and should always be, the hallmark of Walt Disney World. When you start treating some people differently because of their choice of accomodation, you wipe away the biggest reason people choose Disney over other vacations destinations.

-This would be a good point, except Disney has ALWAYS offered 'perks' to stay on property. Used to be they would ship all purchases right to your room, now its to the resort gift shop pick up area, still a 'perk'. They don't deliver packages to the Holiday Inn. On site guests can park for free at all of the parks, off site guests have to pay for parking, is anyone having a melt down at the parking lot entrance because the guy in front of you didn't have to pay to park? These are just two examples that show Disney does treat on site guests differently. Disney is still providing wonderful service to every person who comes through the gate, for the daily park hours. It's not like those extra 3 hours are going to ruin someone's vacation. If you didn't pay for it why worry about it?

Extra Magic Hours is a perk for Resort Guests, and NOT a reason to penalize those Guests whose circumstances prevented them from the opportunity to stay on-property.

-I don't think Disney is trying to penalize anyone. They are trying to provide the 'perk' that was offered to resort guests. The parks are open for long hours, plenty of time to grab a snack/ shop etc.

-some of the 'perks' that we go for include the early entry (yes,we go before the gates are even open for the EMH!), package delivery, & bus transportation (once we get to WDW we don't want to drive anywhere!). Mostly we go for the theme of the resorts, the ease of the stay, cleanliness of the resort and the value. With codes and AP discounts we never pay rack rates.

-I am not a resort snob. I am a mother who wants to go on a family vacation, relax and have fun. As I stated, we have stayed on and off property. Don't be mad at me because I want to use the 'perks' Disney offers as a resort guest.
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wickedfan07

wickedfan07

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Disney is still providing wonderful service to every person who comes through the gate, for the daily park hours. It's not like those extra 3 hours are going to ruin someone's vacation. If you didn't pay for it why worry about it?

-I am not a resort snob. I am a mother who wants to go on a family vacation, relax and have fun. As I stated, we have stayed on and off property. Don't be mad at me because I want to use the 'perks' Disney offers as a resort guest.
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Just to clarify, I don't have a problem with any of the resort Guest perks, and I know they've always existed. All I'm trying to say is that I don't think non-resort Guests should be locked out of a shop because they don't have a wristband. (A suggestion made earlier in this thread.) If they are allowed to stay for 30-45 minutes in the stores any other night, why should a handful of EMH nights be any different?

The fact that resort Guests get three extra hours at night won't ruin my vacation. By the same token, allowing non-resort Guests in shops for 30 minutes after park close shouldn't ruin a resort Guest's vacation. That's all I'm saying.

Sorry if I appear like I'm having a meltdown here. I'm really not. Disney Resort Guests should get perks. I have no problem with checkpoints around the park and at rides. It was the suggestion of checkpoints for shops that irritated me.

And for the record, I'm looking forward to my first experience as a Disney Resort Guest (including EMH), hopefully next winter.

:)
 
mousermerf

mousermerf

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To add..

It's not like they're letting non-Resort folks wander into Pirate's store or something like that. We're talking the primary shops that always stay open later anyways.
 
dave2822

dave2822

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Nothing extreme is changing ... guests have always "unofficially" been able to stay 30-45 minutes extra in shops, and non-resort guests can and usually do do this. After a solid hour, those checkpoints really may come into play as non-resort guests who are spotted may be asked to leave. But that's the extent of it. Nothing really to argue about.
 
Scooter

Scooter

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I don't see why some people aren't getting these rules.:brick:

If I'm a non Disney Resort guest, and the park closes at 7:00PM, but stays open later for EMH, at about 6:00PM, I start heading for the exit and go through the shops to buy my last minute gifts then make sure I'm out the exit by 7:00PM.

Whats so complicated about that?

If I go to my local Mall, and I know that closing time is 9:00PM, I finish up my shopping and am out the door by 9:00PM. I certainly don't expect to be allowed to hang around and shop or eat for an hour after closing time.

I've been accused of having a holyier than thou attitude but it's certainly not the case. When I stayed off property, I was out the exits at closing time on EVERY night I was at ANY Disney Park.

Closing time is closing time, no matter what venue you are at, and if you stay past your designated closing time, you are just abusing the system.

So if my poor daughter didn't get that souvineer she so badly wanted because I was forced out of the park because it was closing time, then it's MY fault. I had all day to buy her that special gift but I thought I would cheat the system by staying after hours and buying it then, but instead got asked to leave because the park was closed to non resort guests.

This reminds me of the many times when I have had a party. There's always one or two people who hang around and refuse to leave. I feel sorry for them, but at the same time, they are just taking advantage of my friendship and kindness. I usually end up taking the drink out of their hands and personally escorting them to the door. :lol:

Maybe Disney needs to hire bouncers.:ROFLOL:
 
cymbaldiva

cymbaldiva

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Scooter said:
I don't see why some people aren't getting these rules.:brick:

If I'm a non Disney Resort guest, and the park closes at 7:00PM, but stays open later for EMH, at about 6:00PM, I start heading for the exit and go through the shops to buy my last minute gifts then make sure I'm out the exit by 7:00PM.

Whats so complicated about that?

If I go to my local Mall, and I know that closing time is 9:00PM, I finish up my shopping and am out the door by 9:00PM. I certainly don't expect to be allowed to hang around and shop or eat for an hour after closing time.

I've been accused of having a holyier than thou attitude but it's certainly not the case. When I stayed off property, I was out the exits at closing time on EVERY night I was at ANY Disney Park.

Closing time is closing time, no matter what venue you are at, and if you stay past your designated closing time, you are just abusing the system.

So if my poor daughter didn't get that souvineer she so badly wanted because I was forced out of the park because it was closing time, then it's MY fault. I had all day to buy her that special gift but I thought I would cheat the system by staying after hours and buying it then, but instead got asked to leave because the park was closed to non resort guests.

This reminds me of the many times when I have had a party. There's always one or two people who hang around and refuse to leave. I feel sorry for them, but at the same time, they are just taking advantage of my friendship and kindness. I usually end up taking the drink out of their hands and personally escorting them to the door. :lol:

Maybe Disney needs to hire bouncers.:ROFLOL:
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You are so the voice of reason - you ROCK!!! :sohappy:
 

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