Tha Realest
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But TS4 made over a billion worldwide. Cynical cash grabs haven’t done bad in the past. whats different now?Toy story 4 was so unnecessary and a cash grab. Toy story 3 had the perfect ending. Plus forky.
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mikejs78
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I wasn't referring to the film's quality. It's a gorgeous-looking film. (I'm not a fan of the soundtrack - I think Miranda did a better job with Moana). But it was a box-office flop, in that it didn't make any money. Its production budget was reportedly $150 million, (and that doesn't count advertising costs, which could easily have added several millions more). A movie has to make twice its overall budget just to break even, and Encanto didn't manage that. Here's an article that explains things further:
Disney's 'Encanto' Was A Box-Office Flop - But It Was Still A Huge Success
Disney's 'Encanto' fell short of breaking even at the box office, but the film was still a major hit on the streaming platform Disney+.www.thethings.com
The movie had an anemic opening and nosedived from there. Now, I'm not denying the huge popularity of some of the songs, especially "Bruno". But the movie was a financial disappointment, FWIW.
Yeah but that was when parents still weren't taking kids to theaters because of COVID.
GimpYancIent
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The viewing public has finally come to see and understand what is going on and are becoming choosier. What to see, when to see it and where plus through what medium. D+ has had an impact.
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Box office numbers don’t mean much anymore for family films.... unless the marketing is suuuuuper blown up (like minions)I wasn't referring to the film's quality. It's a gorgeous-looking film. (I'm not a fan of the soundtrack - I think Miranda did a better job with Moana). But it was a box-office flop, in that it didn't make any money. Its production budget was reportedly $150 million, (and that doesn't count advertising costs, which could easily have added several millions more). A movie has to make twice its overall budget just to break even, and Encanto didn't manage that. Here's an article that explains things further:
Disney's 'Encanto' Was A Box-Office Flop - But It Was Still A Huge Success
Disney's 'Encanto' fell short of breaking even at the box office, but the film was still a major hit on the streaming platform Disney+.
The movie had an anemic opening and nosedived from there. Now, I'm not denying the huge popularity of some of the songs, especially "Bruno". But the movie was a financial disappointment, FWIW.
How much profit has Disney made in Encanto merchandise, music downloads, and social media presence? If it’s a flop, why is the treehouse in Disneyland being bothered to be tethered to Encanto? If it’s a flop, why is it one of the most played movies on Disney+?
Times have changed. Box office numbers will matter for films like Jurassic World or Avatar. Not so much for cartoons and family films anymore. (Sadly)
MagicHappens1971
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I wouldn't imagine Feige is going anywhere anytime soon
Sirwalterraleigh
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Ima gonna check with you in about 3 years on that….
Not “lousy”…short, low capacity and with a shelf life…all valid concerns
Sirwalterraleigh
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It really depends on the trajectory of marvel and what other offers he might entertain??
Is marvel losing steam…maybe a bit? I think that’s a valid concern.
I wouldn’t argue marvel is losing steam but simply taking a step back to set up the next big crossover. After Endgame it was time to start a brand new saga, and in order for the ending to be as big you need to first set up the stories (not to mention introduce new heroes to replace retiring ones.) With all this talk of multiverses, the fact Fantastic 4 is happening soon (which will almost certainly introduce Dr Doom) it seems like the next big arc is going to be Secret Wars 2015 which is going to be huge. The ending will have heroes and villains fighting alternate versions of themselves during a massive incursion (introduced in the Dr Strange this year) for survival. Of course, it may just be another group of heroes instead, who knows but it will be something like that. Of course I expect Feige to not tip his hand until the end credits of the next Avengers movie or equivalent.
I assume this is also how we will get the X-men introduced into the MCU proper and why Kevin Feige has said it will be awhile before that happens.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It’s still the biggest current franchise in Hollywood…
But it’s not reasonable that a comic book genre can’t sustain “growth” as it deviates farther from the main stream of pop culture and more into the fringes that comic books generate from
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I wish I could off millions of people, watch one of my job performance indicators plummet, make multiple public missteps, and still get a vote of confidence from my management.
Smiley/OCD
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And get a nice bonus to boot…
Smiley/OCD
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I wanna step in the same thing he did…
Sirwalterraleigh
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…you noticed that too?
Sirwalterraleigh
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Smiley/OCD
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Done, so I can afford a DVC deed….
Smiley/OCD
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Or, more importantly, pay a few years of NJ property taxes…
Aurorafan
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That's because it was going on D+ a month after release. Who wants to pay in the theater to get it for free in a monthI wasn't referring to the film's quality. It's a gorgeous-looking film. (I'm not a fan of the soundtrack - I think Miranda did a better job with Moana). But it was a box-office flop, in that it didn't make any money. Its production budget was reportedly $150 million, (and that doesn't count advertising costs, which could easily have added several millions more). A movie has to make twice its overall budget just to break even, and Encanto didn't manage that. Here's an article that explains things further:
Disney's 'Encanto' Was A Box-Office Flop - But It Was Still A Huge Success
Disney's 'Encanto' fell short of breaking even at the box office, but the film was still a major hit on the streaming platform Disney+.
The movie had an anemic opening and nosedived from there. Now, I'm not denying the huge popularity of some of the songs, especially "Bruno". But the movie was a financial disappointment, FWIW.
We'll see how the accounting's going come August 10...
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To compensate I do like the Chinese food, bagels, pizza, real diners, hot dogs in NJ when visiting than anywhere else.
From what it looks like from the outside, unfortunately he isnt going anywhere. The parks look absolutely jammed.We'll see how the accounting's going come August 10...
Disney’s Q3 FY22 Earnings Results Webcast
The Walt Disney Company will discuss fiscal third quarter 2022 financial results via a live audio webcast beginning at 4:30 p.m. ET / 1:30 p.m. PT on Wednesday, August 10, 2022. https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/disneys-q3-fy22-earnings-results-webcast/