News Chapek FIRED, Iger New CEO

[TikibirdLand]

Also since this might have been skipped (I didn't see it elsewhere):

Michael Eisner Is “A Big Fan Of Both Bobs”: Former Disney CEO Talks Streaming, Cinemas, Selling Topps​

Michael Eisner, the former Walt Disney chief who currently runs holding company Tornante, was upbeat about his two successors at Disney, Bob Iger and Bob Chapek. The former officially left the hallowed halls as of December 31 and the latter, in place for almost a year, is firing up.​

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“I am a big fan of Disney. I am a fan of both Bobs. Yes I hired him [Chapek]. Is he the same executive as I am, or Bob [Iger] is, or anybody is? He is his own guy. He was very good at Disney when I was there. He took our home video business from a rental to a sell-through business. That was very risky. He did a very good job in the parks. I am a shareholder. I think he’s going to do very well,” Eisner said Wednesday in an interview on CNBC.​

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“There is no loser here. I don’t think the shareholders are losers here, or the consumers are losers here, or certainly either of them” — Iger or Chapek.​

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Michael Eisner Is “A Big Fan Of Both Bobs”: Former Disney CEO Talks Streaming, Cinemas, Selling Topps

Michael Eisner, the former Walt Disney chief executive, praised his two successors in the job, Bob Iger and Bob Chapek, in a CNBC interview.

deadline.com

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Good insights there. Thanks for sharing! Of course, it makes me think less of Mr. Eisner. But, still good info.

 

[John park hopper]

Come on--- Eisner would look like a fool if he said anything different. As far as the 80's WDW was much better gotta ask were you even a live in the 80's

 

[Cesar R M]

That’s the difference in the customer bases

Doesn't also Tokyo Disneyland and DisneySea have the best in both things (maintenance, care, etc..)?

 

[Cesar R M]

Come on--- Eisner would look like a fool if he said anything different. As far as the 80's WDW was much better gotta ask were you even a live in the 80's

Agree.. saying he disagrees with the bobs.. (the ones he appointed or was replaced with... ) sounds like firing himself in the foot "yeah I f..ed.. up"

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Doesn't also Tokyo Disneyland and DisneySea have the best in both things (maintenance, care, etc..)?

Because it’s run by oriental land company?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Also since this might have been skipped (I didn't see it elsewhere):

Michael Eisner Is “A Big Fan Of Both Bobs”: Former Disney CEO Talks Streaming, Cinemas, Selling Topps​

Michael Eisner, the former Walt Disney chief who currently runs holding company Tornante, was upbeat about his two successors at Disney, Bob Iger and Bob Chapek. The former officially left the hallowed halls as of December 31 and the latter, in place for almost a year, is firing up.​

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“I am a big fan of Disney. I am a fan of both Bobs. Yes I hired him [Chapek]. Is he the same executive as I am, or Bob [Iger] is, or anybody is? He is his own guy. He was very good at Disney when I was there. He took our home video business from a rental to a sell-through business. That was very risky. He did a very good job in the parks. I am a shareholder. I think he’s going to do very well,” Eisner said Wednesday in an interview on CNBC.​

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“There is no loser here. I don’t think the shareholders are losers here, or the consumers are losers here, or certainly either of them” — Iger or Chapek.​

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Michael Eisner Is “A Big Fan Of Both Bobs”: Former Disney CEO Talks Streaming, Cinemas, Selling Topps

Michael Eisner, the former Walt Disney chief executive, praised his two successors in the job, Bob Iger and Bob Chapek, in a CNBC interview.

deadline.com

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What in the actual hell would you think Eisner would say?

he made a billion dollars off Disney and his name will be said in the same sentence with it forever

 

[el_super]

What in the actual hell would you think Eisner would say?

he made a billion dollars off Disney and his name will be said in the same sentence with it forever

It just really points to them all being the same. Every CEO Disney has will basically be the same right up to the day they get bought by someone else.

Of course NOW, people think the Eisner years were golden years at Disney so .... ¯\(ツ)/¯

It's also a little funny that Eisner actually is still holding true to one of the main philosophies that eventually was his downfall at Disney:

But it has upside. “It puts me back where I haven’t left anyway, into products that I don’t have to license. That I don’t have to go around the world and beg for a license from the Premier League or from the World Cup or from Major League Baseball.”​

Since it was famously his inability to make a deal with Steve Jobs and Pixar that led to so much strife with the board.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It just really points to them all being the same. Every CEO Disney has will basically be the same right up to the day they get bought by someone else.

Of course NOW, people think the Eisner years were golden years at Disney so .... ¯\(ツ)/¯

It's also a little funny that Eisner actually is still holding true to one of the main philosophies that eventually was his downfall at Disney:

But it has upside. “It puts me back where I haven’t left anyway, into products that I don’t have to license. That I don’t have to go around the world and beg for a license from the Premier League or from the World Cup or from Major League Baseball.”​

Since it was famously his inability to make a deal with Steve Jobs and Pixar that led to so much strife with the board.

Foul…you’re fooling yourself. They are not the same…

Eisner had a creative background and climbed the ranks through the tv and movie studios…he wasn’t as much a money guy at the start

Iger was a longtime tv executive…less creative but knew the back channels of the entertainment biz on both coasts

Chapek is a peddler…plain and simple…no other experience than trying to cut corners to increase profit margins on disposal product.

This is not privileged information…it’s out there to read and comprehend

 

[HauntedPirate]

Foul…you’re fooling yourself. They are not the same…

Eisner had a creative background and climbed the ranks through the tv and movie studios…he wasn’t as much a money guy at the start

Iger was a longtime tv executive…less creative but knew the back channels of the entertainment biz on both coasts

Chapek is a **** peddler…plain and simple…no other experience than trying to cut corners to increase profit margins on disposal product.

This is not privileged information…it’s out there to read and comprehend

How can you discount Iger's creative genius - "More trees"???

 

[el_super]

Foul…you’re fooling yourself. They are not the same…

Eisner had a creative background and climbed the ranks through the tv and movie studios…he wasn’t as much a money guy at the start

Iger was a longtime tv executive…less creative but knew the back channels of the entertainment biz on both coasts

Chapek is a **** peddler…plain and simple…no other experience than trying to cut corners to increase profit margins on disposal product.

This is not privileged information…it’s out there to read and comprehend

The one area I will agree with you, is the lack of Hollywood connections, which might ultimately be Chapek's downfall. If he can't keep the content flowing, and the creatives happy, he will definitely have a bad time.

Otherwise, if you're going to evaluate Chapek's output, based on two years of being in a pandemic, you're going to be far too premature.

Especially with regard to the parks, that are just coming out of a period of expansion and growth. Chapek's "golden age" could still be 5 or 6 years away.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The one area I will agree with you, is the lack of Hollywood connections, which might ultimately be Chapek's downfall. If he can't keep the content flowing, and the creatives happy, he will definitely have a bad time.

Otherwise, if you're going to evaluate Chapek's output, based on two years of being in a pandemic, you're going to be far too premature.

Especially with regard to the parks, that are just coming out of a period of expansion and growth. Chapek's "golden age" could still be 5 or 6 years away.

I’m merely stating their resume (without the fluff) coming into the job…not performance

but if we want to predict that…the first two ended going according to pattern in many ways

 

[the.dreamfinder]

That’s the difference in the customer bases

“The fans are the problem”
-[Redacted] Imagineer

 

[Vinnie Mac]

I don't think he's trying to downplay the severity of the pandemic or hospitalizations and deaths at all. He's just trying to illustrate that no one is going to look back on 2020-to-Whenever this ends with fondness, as a previous poster claimed.

I see now. Thank you.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

2020 quite simply is the year best not talked about.

Amen to that!

I don’t know…I think we live in our own made up story…and don’t reflect on the “teachable moments” enough

 

[Lilofan]

2020 quite simply is the year best not talked about.

If I could have just bought many shares of Moderna stock when it was flatline fall 2019 beginning 2020 and held on...

 

[ShookieJones]

Very true. People do this every era and in the future, it'll happen to this one too.

Honestly - I think Y'all are way off with this. I understand the concept of looking back through the lens of time thing, but this ain't it.

There are plenty of eras for products and companies that just were rotten. We don't look back on the 80's era of American car making now and go, oh those cars were actually great. Some things just plain out s*ck no matter how much time passes. Unless some miracle happens and Chappie pulls a rabbit out of his hat, no one is looking back on this era fondly going, "Oh man that was awesome when we couldn't park hop until 2pm", "I am so glad they took away the Magical Express", "Man those food portions were way to big for the money"
Could things get SO MUCH WORSE and we look back and think "wow we thought we had bad back then!" Sure. But that's not the same thing as what you're saying. LOL

 

[TikibirdLand]

Honestly - I think Y'all are way off with this. I understand the concept of looking back through the lens of time thing, but this ain't it.

There are plenty of eras for products and companies that just were rotten. We don't look back on the 80's era of American car making now and go, oh those cars were actually great. Some things just plain out s*ck no matter how much time passes. Unless some miracle happens and Chappie pulls a rabbit out of his hat, no one is looking back on this era fondly going, "Oh man that was awesome when we couldn't park hop until 2pm", "I am so glad they took away the Magical Express", "Man those food portions were way to big for the money"
Could things get SO MUCH WORSE and we look back and think "wow we thought we had bad back then!" Sure. But that's not the same thing as what you're saying. LOL

Good and bad in every era. This is coming from a DD whose DS is driving an '87 Pontiac Fiero. It's actually interesting to go back and look at the 20th century and see both the good and the bad. Billy Joel did that in the late 80's:


Wikipedia has a good article on the song with a breakdown of all the references. it's a good read while you listen to Billy Joel. And, who wouldn't want to listen to him?

 

[Brer Panther]

yeah, remember when we had to walk around outside wearing masks? And, then we found out that one mask wasn't enough. So, we had to wear TWO? Oh, don't forget the great time we all had standing in line getting shots. And, another 6 months later.

Good times.... Yeah, Good times!

Remember? We still have to walk outside wearing masks.

 

[willtravel]

2020 quite simply is the year best not talked about.

I saw a bumper sticker when I was at McDonalds, on one taillight top, a sticker said "2021 sucks" On the other taillight at top sticker "2022 sucks". Started a little early on that one.

 

[el_super]

Honestly - I think Y'all are way off with this. I understand the concept of looking back through the lens of time thing, but this ain't it.

Yeah it still is.

In a way I get what you're saying. People in the 1980s thought those cars were the best.... and now we wonder... what were they thinking? Make the car as square as possible?

But that just goes to prove the broader point: the future gets to decide how great or bad a certain time period was. Those of us living in it, don't really get much of a say. Memories are short and time heals all wounds.

You can go back to the 1980s and read up on all the complaints about how Disney movies were going more "adult" and how that was going to ruin the brand forever. Or do a little more digging and find out what some of the original Imagineers thought of the newer roller coasters being added to the parks in the 1980s.

Or you could just go find some of the people who swore they would never go back after they took out Mr. Toad. I'm sure some of them are still around these boards...