News Chapek FIRED, Iger New CEO

the.dreamfinder

the.dreamfinder

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EPCOT-O.G. said:
I agree. The model for the “fifth gate” is stuff like the SW hotel.
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Sirwalterraleigh said:
…retheme within 5 years…is my guess
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I wonder if there is anyone left internally that still wants to do TDWC’s answer to Discovery Cove.

I guess Starcruiser is it, but it probably got greenlit because it was supposed to help their per guest spending metrics.
 
mikejs78

mikejs78

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Vinnie Mac said:
It's not necessarily that the future will be worse, just different. People do this outside of the realm of theme parks. I've seen many people transition from "I hate the 2010s" to "the 2010's were the good ol' days". People will always think the future is worst than whatever happened in the past because of how different the two times are.
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I mostly agree with you, but I doubt that very many people will be looking back fondly on the early 2020s and think of living through a global pandemic as "the good ol' days".
 
Sir_Cliff

Sir_Cliff

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Dan Deesnee said:
I've often wondered this. We've been on many many trips in the past decade and frequently a ride we just rode a few months earlier is closed for refurbishments. Several times we've started our trips right as one of those attractions gets reopened. I have never, not once been able to tell what work has been done. The obvious cosmetic flaws always remain...

I get that not all refurbishments are cosmetic. It just seems like there's some low hanging fruit they could tackle. Like the rabbits on the front of the Splash Mountain boats and their blue plastic showing.
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This is one of the things that I feel has really separated Disneyland and WDW over the past couple of decades. Disneyland does seem to pay attention to the details and upgrade technology and effects on a regular basis. WDW seems to do the minimum to keep things running and perhaps every 20 or 30 years will spring for a major refurb for their headline attractions.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Sir_Cliff said:
This is one of the things that I feel has really separated Disneyland and WDW over the past couple of decades. Disneyland does seem to pay attention to the details and upgrade technology and effects on a regular basis. WDW seems to do the minimum to keep things running and perhaps every 20 or 30 years will spring for a major refurb for their headline attractions.
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That’s the difference in the customer bases
 
TikibirdLand

TikibirdLand

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mikejs78 said:
I mostly agree with you, but I doubt that very many people will be looking back fondly on the early 2020s and think of living through a global pandemic as "the good ol' days".
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yeah, remember when we had to walk around outside wearing masks? And, then we found out that one mask wasn't enough. So, we had to wear TWO? Oh, don't forget the great time we all had standing in line getting shots. And, another 6 months later.

Good times.... Yeah, Good times!
 
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Vinnie Mac

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TikibirdLand said:
yeah, remember when we had to walk around outside wearing masks? And, then we found out that one mask wasn't enough. So, we had to wear TWO? Oh, don't forget the great time we all had standing in line getting shots. And, another 6 months later.

Good times.... Yeah, Good times!
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You're complaining about having to wait in lines for vaccination meanwhile there's people on ventilators wishing they had gotten the vaccine. Society has become so entitled my goodness lol.
 
ImperfectPixie

ImperfectPixie

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Vinnie Mac said:
You're complaining about having to wait in lines for vaccination meanwhile there's people on ventilators wishing they had gotten the vaccine. Society has become so entitled my goodness lol.
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I don't think he's trying to downplay the severity of the pandemic or hospitalizations and deaths at all. He's just trying to illustrate that no one is going to look back on 2020-to-Whenever this ends with fondness, as a previous poster claimed.
 
TikibirdLand

TikibirdLand

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Vinnie Mac said:
You're complaining about having to wait in lines for vaccination meanwhile there's people on ventilators wishing they had gotten the vaccine. Society has become so entitled my goodness lol.
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Guess I should've included smilies... The point is that you'll be pronouncing "2020" as "" in the future. Take a look at the people discussing the 1917 Spanish Flu pandemic. Good documentary from The American Experience on it. You won't be hearing ANYONE talking about the good-old days from that period.
 
el_super

el_super

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mikejs78 said:
I mostly agree with you, but I doubt that very many people will be looking back fondly on the early 2020s and think of living through a global pandemic as "the good ol' days".
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I don't know.... did you live through the 1980s? Lots of folks still think those were the golden years for Disney theme parks, but they weren't exactly that great outside the gates.

People are quite capable of convincing themselves of anything.
 
el_super

el_super

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Also since this might have been skipped (I didn't see it elsewhere):

Michael Eisner Is “A Big Fan Of Both Bobs”: Former Disney CEO Talks Streaming, Cinemas, Selling Topps​

Michael Eisner, the former Walt Disney chief who currently runs holding company Tornante, was upbeat about his two successors at Disney, Bob Iger and Bob Chapek. The former officially left the hallowed halls as of December 31 and the latter, in place for almost a year, is firing up.​
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“I am a big fan of Disney. I am a fan of both Bobs. Yes I hired him [Chapek]. Is he the same executive as I am, or Bob [Iger] is, or anybody is? He is his own guy. He was very good at Disney when I was there. He took our home video business from a rental to a sell-through business. That was very risky. He did a very good job in the parks. I am a shareholder. I think he’s going to do very well,” Eisner said Wednesday in an interview on CNBC.​
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“There is no loser here. I don’t think the shareholders are losers here, or the consumers are losers here, or certainly either of them” — Iger or Chapek.​
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Michael Eisner Is “A Big Fan Of Both Bobs”: Former Disney CEO Talks Streaming, Cinemas, Selling Topps

Michael Eisner, the former Walt Disney chief executive, praised his two successors in the job, Bob Iger and Bob Chapek, in a CNBC interview.
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TikibirdLand

TikibirdLand

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el_super said:
I don't know.... did you live through the 1980s? Lots of folks still think those were the golden years for Disney theme parks, but they weren't exactly that great outside the gates.

People are quite capable of convincing themselves of anything.
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Billy Joel has a great song regarding this. It was made in the 80's, of course:


Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray
South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio
Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, Television
North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe

Rosenbergs, H-Bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
Brando, The King And I, and The Catcher In The Rye
Eisenhower, Vaccine, England's got a new queen
Marciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye

We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
 

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