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Changes to FASTPASS may be coming
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Snapper Bean
Active Member
I get a kick out of the way that many posters devise a system that best suits them and then declares all the others unfair. I think we would have to be kidding ourselves to think that Disney isn't going to try to come up with incentives to fill the expensive guest rooms first. I'm not the slightest bit offended by that notion.
speck76
Well-Known Member
Snapper Bean said:
One gets what they pay for.....and if ANYONE does not think that WDW appreciates a GF guest over a POP guest, they are mistaken.....
One may not think it is fair, but hey, they could always spend $400 a night, instead of $89 a night, and get the same treatment.
Just wait until the parks start offering EMH for the top-tier hotels only..... :lol:
PamelaNiebergal
New Member
What about those of us that stay at cheaper hotels in order to stay longer? Don't we deserve the same treament as those people who only go for 3 or 4 nights at the GF as opposed to 2 weeks or more at a moderate resort? Yes Disney is a business but I would be outraged if they turned it into a class based system because Disney already gets every penny I can save beyond living expenses so I feel I deserve to be treated equally to people who have the money to throw around. If the more expensive resorts had all the benefits people might start planning shorter trips so they can afford to stay in these resorts and I don't think that is what Disney would want.
speck76
Well-Known Member
PamelaNiebergal said:
Why is a shorter trip a bad thing? If you stay for 2 weeks at POP and pay $89, you pay $1246 in room charges. If 3 sets of guests stay at the GF over a 2 weeks period, and each only stays 2 nights, (so, the room is occupied for 6 nights total) the hotel only would have to charge $208 to get the same revenue as you had paid, PLUS, they only have to service the room for 6 nights, instead of 14, so the overall cost is lower.
Most likely, if you stay 2 weeks, you may spend OVERALL more than the typical guest who only stays 3 days, but you probably do NOT spend more on a per-day basis.
By staying two weeks, you are potentially displacing better revenue for the company.
WigglyWiggins
New Member
If it aint broke...
PamelaNiebergal
New Member
speck76 said:
I never said shorter trips are bad things. I just think that those of us who spend the same amount as those who stay for shorter trips at more expensive hotels deserve equal treatment. Actually I think everyone who stays at a Disney resort regardless of length of stay deserves equal treatment. The deluxe resorts are very expensive. The average family can not afford to spend $280 plus per night for a hotel room. They should not be treated as second class citizens because they are staying at moderate or value resort. They are at Disney and Disney should be a classless system - at least in the parks. Resort guests get what they pay for at the resort but it should not affect their experiences in the parks when they are paying the same admission as everyone else.
astewart
Member
The only one I don't like is the idea of purchasing in advance via tv/web/phone etc etc... because your going to have guests that don't know you can do this that will not have a chance to get a fastpass at all becuase they will be all gone days in advance, so even if they were the first one thru the gates, they still wouldn't be able to get one.
Other then that, I'd be ok with the rest of the changes.
Other then that, I'd be ok with the rest of the changes.
speck76 said:
a) It makes it way more complicated than it needs to or should be.
b) I don't want to have to stay in the most expensive hotel in order to get the bennefits. I enjoy staying at the All Stars/Pop Century since the enviornment seems the most like Disney to me. All the others just seem like nice hotels that you could stay at anywhere but the All Stars/Pop Century have the outrageous larger than life decorations that seem more like Disney's style.
MKCustodial
Well-Known Member
The_CEO said:We are just a step closer to having our days planned out before us folks.
9:00 Test Track
9:10 M:S..
That's what they've been aiming for, recently, I think. But I for one wouldn't like it. I never liked the idea of Fastpass, and this new system, if implemented, will only make matters worse. I like to take my time, decide on the spot what attractions I want to ride and accomodate any changes or situations that may appear. Planning out your day via computer or DTV before you've even left the bed to see how is the day outside sounds like a daunting task, in my opinion.
MKCustodial
Well-Known Member
speck76 said:
Well, Speck, seriously, besides Wilderness Lodge, which I find breathtaking, none of the other moderate or deluxe resorts have any appeal over me at all. If I had the money, I'd stay at WL every time. As is, it's Pop Centuri or All-Star Movies.
speck76
Well-Known Member
MKCustodial said:
It seems the people here that are complaining about better benifits being given to those staying in the premium hotels are people who can not afford to stay at those hotels. Why do you think you should be entitled to the same service as someone who is spending much more on their hotels room than you are?
Now, I can understand why people would be upset, WDW could offer something and "exclude" them from the offering, but I believe that it could, one, be in WDW's best interest to align benifits based on the tier of the hotel that the guest is staying in.
Equality does not exist, nor should it.....it is all about EQUITY.
MKCustodial
Well-Known Member
speck76 said:
I understand your argument. What I take of the whole situation is that it could be bad for Disney to all of a sudden start offering their perks only to the deluxers when they've always prided themselves in offering the same magic vacation to all their Guests, no matter their budget. If all of a sudden only the deluxers get Fastpass or EMH or transportation or whatever, it could dent their image and cause a PR nightmare.
Mind you, of the 5 times I've been to WDW, 4 of those I've stayed off-property, because that has always been the best way for us down here (because of rates and the fact that off-site hotels usually offer breakfast), so most of those changes wouldn't affect me in the least. So this is as unbiased as possible.
mousermerf
Account Suspended
Thoughts:
A) All WDW resorts are overpriced.
B) All of them offer far too little for what they cost.
C) Disney already has lots of other ways with enough money to hop right on rides etc - why make it a resort perk?
A) All WDW resorts are overpriced.
B) All of them offer far too little for what they cost.
C) Disney already has lots of other ways with enough money to hop right on rides etc - why make it a resort perk?
KevinPage
Well-Known Member
I find the rationale that you are PAYING more for a high end resort so you get more in the parks absolutely ridiculous.
The reason you pay more for the Grand Floridian than the All Stars is:
1 - closer to Magic Kingdom, not to mention the visuals & prettier resort
2 - use of the monorail for MK & Epcot
3 - and the most important - HIGHER degree of service, larger rooms, prettier environment, less rooms (so it is less crowded), valet service, luggage service to your room, concierge.
If disney wanted to give ALL their hotel guests more perks than people outside, which they already do, with EHM, than I could live with it. But you get what you pay for in a Disney resort already - the quality of the hotel.
What's next? People who are in a "Standard room" at The Grand Floridian get LESS than someone who is in "Conceirge"? Where does it end ?
The reason you pay more for the Grand Floridian than the All Stars is:
1 - closer to Magic Kingdom, not to mention the visuals & prettier resort
2 - use of the monorail for MK & Epcot
3 - and the most important - HIGHER degree of service, larger rooms, prettier environment, less rooms (so it is less crowded), valet service, luggage service to your room, concierge.
If disney wanted to give ALL their hotel guests more perks than people outside, which they already do, with EHM, than I could live with it. But you get what you pay for in a Disney resort already - the quality of the hotel.
What's next? People who are in a "Standard room" at The Grand Floridian get LESS than someone who is in "Conceirge"? Where does it end ?