Have you seen the spreadsheets or are you just going by what you think happened?
Probably a more reasonable explanation than calling it the greatest failure in company history....
Have you seen the spreadsheets or are you just going by what you think happened?
Hows about "greatest non-creative, anti-guest satisfaction, we want more easy money so to hell with the fans" failure in company history.Probably a more reasonable explanation than calling it the greatest failure in company history....
Yes, I understand all that. But the great "disclosure" here was that the project will have lights. That's not a disclosure at all. The only thing disclosed was that he has information and he's not telling it to anybody. That's the internet equivalent of "haha, I know something you don't know" (as I said it was in my previous post). If some people get off on being told something that is blatantly obvious, that's fine, but I don't have to like it.
Here's some more super secret disclosures ... the project will feature both concrete and steel beams. But I'm not telling any more than that. Everyone can be amazed by my special insider connections.
Probably a more reasonable explanation than calling it the greatest failure in company history....
I didn't call it the greatest failure in company history. I called it the greatest company failure since DCA. Specifically, I meant DCA's conception/building/opening ... that's 1998-2001ish.
and what about MDP/8-trax and CW? Any info on them?
I thought the same.The disclosure was that the project will have a $3.6m lighting package. To me, that suggests something more than garden variety third party shops are coming. Not at all analogous to stating 'the project will have lights' or that it will have concrete, bathrooms, etc.
Hows about "greatest non-creative, anti-guest satisfaction, we want more easy money so to hell with the fans" failure in company history.
I think that says it.
Now that's bending the disclosure more than a tad to suit your argument. The disclosure was that the project will have a $3.6m lighting package. To me, that suggests something more than garden variety third party shops are coming. Not at all analogous to stating 'the project will have lights' or that it will have concrete, bathrooms, etc.
I thought the same.
Some here have even gone so far as to speculate WoC at DtD. Not being familiar with the logistics of that show that Lee has since pointed out, it wasn't that far of a leap for 3.6 million dollars.
That is an impressive amount just for lights and has perked my interest for what else the product entails.
sigh...I wish they would open half the island with the new theme and do whatever with the rest. So in essence, change the facade but still nothing inside them.As of now.
MDP; structure to stay, new facade on the entire building to match the new theme.
CW; structure to remain
8-Trax; structure to remain.
RnR Beach Club/Motion; Razed (as previously mentioned), single new structure to be built. Lee had some interesting post on this area
Little to no chance of a Tianna restaurant at DTD.
Disney is going totally third-party with DTD and PI, so unless Landry's wants to do a Princess restaurant....not gonna happen.
Do they have third-parties lined up? Or is everything still in the discussion stages?
If they are starting construction they have contracts. While it doesn't mean that things can't change, the construction contracts will be based on completed designs.
I know of nothing officially but given Disney's track record (e.g. River Country) I think it is safe to assume that if demolition is planned construction will not be far off and again it would be safe to assume that Disney has signed contracts if they are going to start construction.I thought the permits filed were for site mobilization and general construction. I wasn't aware there were established plans beyond essentially demolition and the "lighting" works that Raven discussed.....
I know of nothing officially but given Disney's track record (e.g. River Country) I think it is safe to assume that if demolition is planned construction will not be far off and again it would be safe to assume that Disney has signed contracts if they are going to start construction.
Disney is going totally third-party with DTD and PI...
I have yet to hear of any Disney-run properties in PI's future. There may be some, but not the bigger ones.Does that include the rumored Lighthouse fast food stand/bar? Is that still on the table? Seems a logical fit, but I was under the impression that would be Disney-run.
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