Cast Member Standards

Tom Morrow

Well-Known Member
Well, I’m a 62-year-old fat, Texas fuddy-duddy, and I don’t give a rip one way or the other what words are used between people in those types of situations, as long as they’re properly respectful, on both ends.
I’ve already explained my stance on this, and the youngsters “explanation” just makes no sense to me.
If a person is “triggered” over “You’re welcome.” they should seek help.

Nobody is "trigger" over "you're welcome". You're choosing to read this discussion that way. Not understanding why younger people use "no problem" instead of "you're welcome" doesn't make you an old fuddy-duddy, but spinning it into "these weak triggered snowflakes blah blah blah", does.
 

donaldtoo

Well-Known Member
Nobody is "trigger" over "you're welcome". You're choosing to read this discussion that way. Not understanding why younger people use "no problem" instead of "you're welcome" doesn't make you an old fuddy-duddy, but spinning it into "these weak triggered snowflakes blah blah blah", does.

First off, thanks for adding all the extraneous, interpretive verbiage to my original “triggered” quote.
Triggered seems to be a word that has been used extensively in recent years, so I chose to use it, but I don’t remember my generation using it years ago.
Maybe I should have used “off-putting”…?
Again, if it is said with a polite tone/inflection and accompanied by a sincere smile, I don’t care whether “You’re welcome.”, “No problem.”, “No worries.”, etc. is used.
If delivered in the above manner, I just find it odd that “You’re welcome.” would be off-putting to anyone.
If that makes me an old fuddy-duddy, well, then I’m guilty as charged…!!! :)
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
This is a generational thing.

"You're welcome" sounds rude to the younger generations.

"No problem" is the same as "you're welcome" but comes off as less rude, I guess because we started using "you're welcome" sarcastically at some point.

"No problem" = implies "I was not inconvenienced or didn't mind it if I was"

"You're welcome" = implies "you inconvenienced me so you owed me a thank you and I am acknowledging your thank you"

This is how millennials (me) and younger view it.

Similarly, older generations seem to like forced corporate greeting and phrases whereas younger generations view them as insincere (because they are). I addressed this in my long post a few pages back, but this is a major reason why communications with cast members has become a lot more casual.

"You're welcome" is only rude if it's delivered with a twisted sneer.

I believe younger CMs avoid the phrase because it hides an unstated commitment to future involvement implying unlimited access to their services. You can bet that if there was a tip involved, they'd proffer a huge "THANK YOU!" instead. Test this theory the next time you receive a service from a younger CM.

At the end of your normal, non-tipped encounter, however, you'll hear, "no problem," which says "I took care of you this time but that's the end of our transaction." The clear implication is that you should go away and not bother them again.

I wonder how the young CM's would respond if their requested and provided service actually created a problem...

I notice even at the much lauded ChickfilA they don’t say “You’re welcome”, they say “My pleasure”.
Solves that "future commitment" dilemma while still generating good will with the customer. A very elegant solution to the linguistic quandry.
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
"You're right, it wasn't a problem - it was your job."

Good lord, saying "you're welcome" is not rude. 🙄

"You're welcome" is only rude if it's delivered with a twisted sneer.

I believe younger CMs avoid the phrase because it hides an unstated commitment to future involvement implying unlimited access to their services. You can bet that if there was a tip involved, they'd proffer a huge "THANK YOU!" instead. Test this theory the next time you receive a service from a younger CM.

At the end of your normal, non-tipped encounter, however, you'll hear, "no problem," which says "I took care of you this time but that's the end of our transaction." The clear implication is that you should go away and not bother them again.

I wonder how the young CM's would respond if their requested and provided service actually created a problem...


Solves that "future commitment" dilemma while still generating good will with the customer. A very elegant solution to the linguistic quandry.
Out of all the things that are a big deal, this is the one that absolutely is not a big deal.
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
"no problem," which says "I took care of you this time but that's the end of our transaction." The clear implication is that you should go away and not bother them again.
As someone in his 40s who sometimes says “No problem” (along with “You’re welcome”, “No worries”, and “My pleasure”), I absolutely don’t use it with this implication. They all mean exactly the same thing to me, the only difference being one of register (formal vs. informal).
 

DisneyHead123

Well-Known Member
Solves that "future commitment" dilemma while still generating good will with the customer. A very elegant solution to the linguistic quandry.

I agree it's a nice phrase that sidesteps both "You're welcome" and "No problem".

I don't necessarily agree that "no problem" indicates no future commitment. Honestly I think it's just a matter of new terms coming into fashion, as they always do.

Example - if someone bumped into you today and exclaimed "Oh a thousand pardons!" you might raise an eyebrow and wonder what they really meant by that. I don't think "You're welcome" has reached that level yet by any means, but just an example of how language changes. First it's perhaps used only in certain situations, then maybe it sounds a little stuffy and formal, then maybe it's expected that only certain generations use it, and finally it's not something you hear in common usage anymore.
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
This is how millennials (me) and younger view it.
You don’t speak for all millennials- I have 0 issue with hearing your welcome. It’s a polite response.
Nor is saying "no problem", which is never intended to mean what you have glossed it as meaning. No-one should take offence at either expression.
“No problem” is not as professional a response. It kinda depends on the type of business. For a company that insists CM’s point with 2 fingers, I would expect “no problem” to be frowned upon but I’m not sure what is currently taught.
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
So you're basically a business financial engineer. All the engineers I've worked with have placed more emphasis on function than form.
Yeah, no. I make sure that the financial records are right. And that the business is spending its money responsibly. And I deal with auditors, and occasionally the SEC. We're pretty straight-laced around here.

I'm not cool enough to be an engineer. 🙃
 

StarWarsGirl

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
100% agree. But it's not impolite to say it, and I felt compelled to confirm that, and in the process, had to another $.10 worth.
Yeah, it's just silly to get offended over. But because of how language evolves and because of the perception younger people have that it sounds rude, they're not going to use it. They're also not going to be offended if an older person uses "you're welcome", the courtesy should go both ways.

And yet someone on this thread said it was an example of young people not wanting to work....no, it's literally just language evolving. No need to get your pants in a wad over it.
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
Yeah, it's just silly to get offended over.
only speaking for myself, but I studied Disney CM standards religiously, literally paid for Disney Institute and read all the books etc.

So when I point out things regarding Disney Customer Service it’s not because I’m offended personally, it’s because it is counter to who Disney taught me that they were.

The way I was taught, it would be wrong for a Disney CM to say “no problem” - but I was also taught the wrong answer to “what time is the 3:00 parade” is “3:00”
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
only speaking for myself, but I studied Disney CM standards religiously, literally paid for Disney Institute and read all the books etc.

So when I point out things regarding Disney Customer Service it’s not because I’m offended personally, it’s because it is counter to who Disney taught me that they were.

The way I was taught, it would be wrong for a Disney CM to say “no problem” - but I was also taught the wrong answer to “what time is the 3:00 parade” is “3:00”
The real answer to what time is the 3:00 parade when a guest asks is what time the parade will pass them on where the family is on the parade route.
 

DisneyHead123

Well-Known Member
only speaking for myself, but I studied Disney CM standards religiously, literally paid for Disney Institute and read all the books etc.

So when I point out things regarding Disney Customer Service it’s not because I’m offended personally, it’s because it is counter to who Disney taught me that they were.

The way I was taught, it would be wrong for a Disney CM to say “no problem” - but I was also taught the wrong answer to “what time is the 3:00 parade” is “3:00”

If someone is truly awful, cruel, mean spirited, etc., I get genuinely upset. If they don't bother doing their jobs, I of course find that unacceptable.

That said, I have a ton of sympathy for service workers. Yes wages have increased but so has inflation and I hear the cost of living in Orlando is insane. They are often doing a very difficult job, many of them in brutal heat. While many of the people visiting Disney are pulling six figures at cushy office jobs.

If they are there - they showed up, they're working, they're in general doing what they're supposed to be doing (debates about minor details aside), and they are at least minimally pleasant - I'm not going to nitpick. I don't even care if they are chatting with other CMs when I approach them, as long as they're not clearly ignoring a situation where they're needed. In a very real sense we're lucky they're there at all. If Disney is providing them housing and child care and fun employee nights and a good salary and a 401 K and such - ok, then we can haggle over the finer points of the employee handbook. If they're getting paid a fast food employee salary and not much else, again, I think we're lucky to have them there at all.
 

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