MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

Disstevefan1

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I am not unfortunately (or fortunately)
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TheMaxRebo

Well-Known Member
That's a great question. I wonder what will be the closing date?

I think it could be a ways off as they still have to do the laydown yards and stuff

Wonder if they wait for some positive news to bury this in (parade debut, etc) or just hold off for a while including after Destination D23

Actually, that might be my guess - focus on new stuff that is coming and maybe give us some more on Villains land, etc (the stuff people - especially the hard core fans attending) at the event and then like a week or two after, probably on a Friday, announce the River's closure date
 

Bill Cipher

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In the Parks
Yes
Tin foil hat time. This is speculation and reading way too much into a promotional video.
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I don't believe this layout is actually meant to be representative of the MK Cars attraction at all. I know it plays during the segment of the video dedicated to the MK Cars ride, but the surrounding B-roll footage shows the Imagineers in the room discussing the layout next to a 3D print of a traditional Omnimover shaped vehicle, some kind of vehicle wheelbase, and a smaller mockup of a different ride vehicle.
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Neither of these seem to reflect the other info we have about this ride. I know it plays during the segment of the video dedicated to the Cars ride, but it's just not adding up. The layout also has a lot of long straightaway segments which don't seem to reflect the concept they outline in the narration, a ride that's supposed to favor rugged and varied terrain over speed. Also, the ride is still being described as a race, so wouldn't there need to be two tracks like the ending of RSR? I think this B-roll might be related to a different project but can't place what it is. The small concept vehicle reminds me of how a Figment-esque system is rumored for Encanto but this layout doesn't seem like it would work for that attraction either. It's also hard to read the intended scale of the crude paper model so I can't seem to land on a definitive project. Would love to hear everyone's ideas though.
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
I think it could be a ways off as they still have to do the laydown yards and stuff

Wonder if they wait for some positive news to bury this in (parade debut, etc) or just hold off for a while including after Destination D23

Actually, that might be my guess - focus on new stuff that is coming and maybe give us some more on Villains land, etc (the stuff people - especially the hard core fans attending) at the event and then like a week or two after, probably on a Friday, announce the River's closure date
Folks are saying in 2025?

Even if wall do go up in 2025 it could be YEARS before it opens - See EPCOT celebration gardens ;)
 

TheMaxRebo

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Folks are saying in 2025?

Even if wall do go up in 2025 it could be YEARS before it opens - See EPCOT celebration gardens ;)

I think that was the initial plans but I thought no approvals took a little longer than expected an not sure they would want to close it during party season

So my guess is the announcement comes out in September but it doesn't close until into 2026. Likely Mid January
 

Gusey

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Just reading the accomompanying blog post to the latest We Call It Imagineering video and spotted reference to the 2nd Cars ride:
This is just one of several attractions as part of the largest expansion in Magic Kingdom history that includes a second family-friendly Cars attraction and the highly-anticipated Villains land.
 

MrPromey

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Devil's advocate, Walt also said “I love the nostalgic myself. I hope we never lose some of the things of the past." I am sure there are some things from Disneyland he wouldn't want ever being replaced. People tend to use the "Disneyland isn't a museum" quote to justify change for the sake of change, without the context that he also said that really early on, like in the 50s iirc. Back then Disneyland was like, mostly undeveloped land and concrete.

There's also that "blessing of size" quote about Florida.

Dig around and you can make some out-of-context quote from him agree with just about any argument but the point stands that in DL where they don't have the "blessing of size", they've managed to keep ROA and still have a considerably higher attraction count than MK so WDW not wanting to build out at the MK when they own the land and their park is not blocked in by major public roadways in the middle of a city is telling.

Clearly, there is no need to replace when they can actually do the dictionary definition of expand.

This was a choice, not a requirement. It never had to be one or the other. It was their decision to make it that way - period.
 
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phillip9698

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Devil's advocate, Walt also said “I love the nostalgic myself. I hope we never lose some of the things of the past." I am sure there are some things from Disneyland he wouldn't want ever being replaced. People tend to use the "Disneyland isn't a museum" quote to justify change for the sake of change, without the context that he also said that really early on, like in the 50s iirc. Back then Disneyland was like, mostly undeveloped land and concrete.

What people of Walt’s generation were nostalgic for are not the same as people who are bringing their kids currently.

That’s how nostalgia works.
 

UNCgolf

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It’s become a shrine/museum to Walt. Anything outside of what can be perceived as Walt’s vision will be attacked.

But they completely ignore that Walt stated he didn’t want Disneyland to be a museum, it should be changing with the times.

The only way this is true is if you read posts from like 4 or 5 specific posters and ignore every single other person posting here.

There are about as many posters who think everything Disney does is great and automatically dismiss all criticism as there are who attack everything Disney does no matter what it is. Most posters are in the middle where they like some things and dislike others.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Not True! That’s the lazy thing to say. There is way more negativity. There are like 5-1o people that spread negativity like a job… Name any positive posters like that.
Seriously… it’s not even a comparison.
You want negativity? Read the comments on social media posts. Official and non official.

It’s not just here.
 

lazyboy97o

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I think that was the initial plans but I thought no approvals took a little longer than expected an not sure they would want to close it during party season
Disney does a lot of dumb things but the chances that they made water management approval in one round a critical milestone is almost nonexistent. It’s just too colossally dumb. It was wishcasting based on not knowing the process.

The permits also showed plenty of work that can and should be accomplished with Rivers still open.
 

KDM31091

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This is an utterly nonsensical statement reflecting a willful lack of critical thought.

Multiple insightful posters including the owner of this site have pointed out the corporate motivations that have doomed RoA and Muppets.
It is entirely because of a desire to monetize every single attraction in the park IMO. If it doesn’t sell LLs it is doomed. However this mentality of squeezing every penny out of guests will only work for so long. At some point it becomes cost prohibitive compared to many other vacations. They are losing the balance.
 

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