Kamikaze
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Oh absolutely, but that posters argument was basically that they shouldn't build anything except coasters. Because thats building for the majority of guests.
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danlb_2000
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Draining the river isn't a big deal, it has been done a number of times. Getting rid of the riverboat also isn't hard. As for re-grading the land, they may use the current river level as the starting point for construction. This probably isn't much harder then prepping a fresh piece of land for construction.
CoasterCowboy67
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So with all these boat rides going around, why doesn’t DHS have one? Do any of the land ideas considered for AC involve one?
Feels like an obvious gap in that park that Zootopia wouldn’t fit if it’s a clone. I get it’s just a ride system, but there’s something I notice more about 3 trackless rides in a park then 3 boat rides. I find boat rides to be more neutral and about the setting; rather than the motion itself
Feels like an obvious gap in that park that Zootopia wouldn’t fit if it’s a clone. I get it’s just a ride system, but there’s something I notice more about 3 trackless rides in a park then 3 boat rides. I find boat rides to be more neutral and about the setting; rather than the motion itself
Brer Panther
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...they're not actually considering that, are they?
Zootopia's a great movie and all, but I'd rather they not retheme Soarin' or Living With the Land to it.
Tha Realest
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From cropaganda to copaganda
lazyboy97o
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All new construction requires a geotechnical report.
lazyboy97o
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No, there really doesn’t. Disney is not just some cold, calculating machine. They do things that don’t make sense. Moving quickly gets you to the point of no return quickly.
bwr827
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And this steam-powered paddlewheel boat is a theme park version that runs on a track in a shallow, manmade waterway. It’s not some authentic experience of history.
It is a piece of theme park history, and it is a huge change to see the area transformed into something different.
bwr827
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Why is it a given that Disney wants the cheapest and easiest way? And “way” to what?
We already have very sensible explanations for this new development. There’s no big mystery.
bwr827
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Isn’t it just Spielberg keeping the ET attraction alive?
MrPromey
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That's the unconfirmed rumor.
Going to the park more than half a dozen times a year with a kid who loves it, I can say that while there are times it's a lot busier than others, I've never seen it as a complete walk on once you get to the forest section.
There are no empty vehicles or vehicles without the maximum number of people for the grouping (as in, uneven numbers that sometimes require and empty seat) going out during most normal operating hours even if the extended outside queue isn't always full.
While I'm sure there are executives who would love to use that space in a park that doesn't have room for a ton of expansion for something that might be more a of a draw, I don't think anyone's been wringing their hands over it all this time.
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Biff215
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While no project of this size is simple, using RoA/TSI isn’t likely more difficult or expensive than any other option. Since they’re currently used areas with some infrastructure in place, you could argue it’s actually the easy way out (kind of like DvC dropping Riviera into CBR instead of building new somewhere else).
The LB is removed regularly for maintenance so that can be gone overnight. The RoA has been drained before and isn’t nearly as deep as most think. TSI has minimal structures to demo so that won’t take long either. The toughest parts will be working along the current guest areas along the river, but with BTMR down for a year plus, that also just got easier. I’d think some downtime for HM might be built into this later as well as they try to blend those areas.
I also would have preferred they use a different plot or even park, but all things considered, this is underutilized land in the world’s busiest theme park, and at least this replacement results in an increase in capacity for once!
lentesta
Premium Member
I see what you did there, you glorious SOB.
Not really. Exaggerated. Current leadership has a play in that too. Partly due to friendships with Steven, but his consultant connection was bought out awhile ago.
It is more that ET rates high in G-sat and a low height requirement large scale ride with no bigger property for it yet.
If The Wild Robot or something similar is a smash hit, I think it could be time.
Dear Prudence
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Alright, so I've thought about this a lot, ans I slept on it to make sure I still wanted to articulate this idea.
Frontierland changing isn't erasing history (other than theme park history, which is still a bummer, ngl), because it represents a "West" of the fantasy imagination of Movies and Television. It's, again, also not changing because of any kind of benevolence or care about any of this. Because this would actually be a great opportunity to highlight some actual historical figures of the "Western" period. Most actual cowboys were Black, Native, or Mexican. Highlight them. Again, hire cultural ambassadors from Native Nations the way they do for the other cultural ambassadors at EPCOT. The ROA Natives being stereotypes? Work with tribal historians to fix that. (Also starting by removing the corny peppers that tie into TBA, Stat.)
I know it's a theme park and not a museum, but since WDW gets so many international guests and because, for whatever reason, this period or these images are seen as intrinsically "American." Disneyland Paris has something to that effect, but it's not....great lol if I am being honest.
But it's about selling Cars merch. Which, you know, is fine, because they're a business. But I would very much appreciate them stop pretending like this is in anyway something altruistic or moral. Ha.
Frontierland changing isn't erasing history (other than theme park history, which is still a bummer, ngl), because it represents a "West" of the fantasy imagination of Movies and Television. It's, again, also not changing because of any kind of benevolence or care about any of this. Because this would actually be a great opportunity to highlight some actual historical figures of the "Western" period. Most actual cowboys were Black, Native, or Mexican. Highlight them. Again, hire cultural ambassadors from Native Nations the way they do for the other cultural ambassadors at EPCOT. The ROA Natives being stereotypes? Work with tribal historians to fix that. (Also starting by removing the corny peppers that tie into TBA, Stat.)
I know it's a theme park and not a museum, but since WDW gets so many international guests and because, for whatever reason, this period or these images are seen as intrinsically "American." Disneyland Paris has something to that effect, but it's not....great lol if I am being honest.
But it's about selling Cars merch. Which, you know, is fine, because they're a business. But I would very much appreciate them stop pretending like this is in anyway something altruistic or moral. Ha.
Incomudro
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And while I love this joke, this is exactly why I said in a post a while back that you don't design parks for the people.
The people would love a Deadpool Main Street.
True Idiocracy.
lentesta
Premium Member
A sci-fi film that turned into a documentary without even trying.
Incomudro
Well-Known Member
And in a much shorter time frame.