News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Satans Hockey]

So? I keep on seeing these kinds of comments, but htey make no sense.

The choice wasn't "put in Cars" vs "keep RoA/TSI". The choice is "Remove RoA/TSI to put in Cars" vs "Put in Cars and keep RoA/TSI". We can debate the finer points of Cars in MK, but they didn't have to put it in that particular location.

Why not retain the RoA and keep that ambiance and have all the benefit of the Cars addition? Who exactly is losing in that situation?

It makes plenty of sense if they found the numbers of people actually riding the boat don't warrant running the boat. Same with Tom Sawyer Island. I don't know the numbers of how many people actually use these attractions but Disney does.

They can put these attractions in now and then put even more new attractions in a different location in the future.

 

[KDM31091]

Yep, a trackless RSR, the biggest hit attraction at DLR, so much that people queue up an hour before rope drop at DCA and run straight to it.

And it's a nightmare. Shoulder to shoulder people. Anxiety inducing at least for me, not my idea of fun. And now that will be even more so the situation at MK with more headliner attractions and fewer chill, relaxing ones to escape to.

I guess for now we still have CoP and Tiki Room as a reliable almost always walk on to relax. But the numbers are dwindling. The riverboat is almost always a walk on when the boat arrives due to its massive capacity, i.e. you rarely have to wait through another cycle, if ever.

I understand it's a business and obviously they want the rides to be popular but there needs to be a balance of "OMG STAMPEDE TO THIS RIDE" attractions with chill, off the beaten path ones.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Dang, you've rode it already?

I have indeed ridden POTC.

 

[James Alucobond]

2 water rides? TBA and what?

I’d guess they mean Jungle Cruise.

 

[the_rich]

I'm sure right now there's someone advocating for Deadpool Land built on one of Main Street USA's side streets.

What does that have to do with what I asked? Earlier premeirdrum had said there were a few options for the area and this was the most expensive. I'm curious what the other options were.

 

[tissandtully]

Yeah I’m over it. Tiana’s discourse has exhausted me enough.

I legitimately can’t believe that people are whining over losing a man made body of water with a nearly abandoned playground instead of being excited for an enormous new area with attractions. This ain’t no Splash Mountain replacement- yet for some reason people seem more up in arms about this change.

And they will be there the first day it opens.

 

[montyz81]

Epic universe is becoming more attractive everyday for my next destination and stay in Orlando

 

[disney fan 13]

Absolute warfare in here currently. It's possible that the rides will be good and that people can be sad to see the area go/ think it's not the best idea to remove TSI/ROA for a variety of reasons. Both things can be true!

 

[KDM31091]

Plus, speaking for myself here, I'm just tired of being expected to know all of these properties at this point.

Like, I have some Pixar films I like; over the years they've made some absolutely wonderful stuff, after all! But part of what creates a connection with a themed attraction is universality; I shouldn't have to know what a given movie is to enjoy something, but now there are so many new rides/areas based around films that if I haven't seen them or don't personally enjoy them, I'm not really interested in spending tons of time there. This is made worse by our modern "content is king" era where new sequels and whatnot are being pumped out endlessly; this isn't, say, the early/mid 90s where Disney would release something like Aladdin or Pocahontas, give it a parade at MGM Studios and a shoutout here or there in the park, and then do the same for the next movie, there's now pretty much an endless supply of content and it's filling up every available nook and cranny.

It's not to say every single IP-based attraction requires riders know everything about it, I've seen some that manage to sidestep it, but it's just getting more and more alienating at this point.

And ultimately, yes; why bother with different park names or aesthetics if the end goal is "keep dumping our properties wherever?" I think "Epic Universe" is an incredibly dumb name for a theme park, but part of why Universal's doing it is because EU has no overarching theme - each area is based around a specific property, that's it. The difference is, they're not, again, insulting our intelligence the way Disney keeps insisting on doing, by telling us Cars fits perfectly into Frontierland, or that "this is what Walt would have wanted; see, we built a statue of him prove it!", or some other nonsense.

Exactly. I do get tired of the marketing spins attempting to justify attractions. Look, Cars has no business in Frontierland, period. I don't care how they try and spin it. It's not true to theme. Some vague "exploration", "adventure", or "foot on the gas" does not constitute fitting into a theme. Ditto for Indy, Ditto for Encanto.

I get it, they don't care about us purists anyway. But Disney is just unfortunately falling further and further from what it once was.

The only saving grace is that maybe, potentially the Villains Land will be very very cool, and it is replacing nothing, so it's a net positive. But what we're losing for Cars is almost unacceptable.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

The blessing of size does not refer to Magic Kingdom, it's about the Walt Disney World Resort.

Magic Kingdom doesn't need to get any bigger.

Yeah, MK is already oversized (the walk to Tiana and BTMR is terrible). It really doesn’t need to become a slog like Shanghai Disney, Alton Towers, or Marineland are.

 

[LittleBuford]

Log flume in Paris (where it gets mighty cold in the winter) seems odd, too…

As a Brit, I find this a very strange sentiment. You guys realise that many of our theme parks over in Northern Europe already have log flumes, right?

 

[GhostHost1000]

The blessing of size does not refer to Magic Kingdom, it's about the Walt Disney World Resort.

Magic Kingdom doesn't need to get any bigger.

I wish they’d focus on the other 3 parks having the same number of attractions as MK before expanding there. I know they will never be up to MKs level, but you can spread out MK crowds by having 3 other parks with more draw

 

[Advisable Joseph]

For now they are being cleared to be used for construction staging, there really isn't any place close to the project for that. It's possible in the future that something else will be built there.

Seem like massive amount of laydown. Do you have anything we can compare this with?

 

[danlb_2000]

Does that mean all those trees will be removed and gravel will be there?

Yes.

 

[RoysCabin]

With all due respect, you have no idea my knowledge (or lack there of) of American history. I understand you have said you’re a history teacher. That’s fantastic, but it doesn’t give you the final word on the subject.

You've provided a decent idea.

 

[James Alucobond]

As a Brit, I find this a very strange sentiment. You guys realise that many of our theme parks over in Northern Europe already have log flumes, right?

Not to mention Splash closes anyway during some colder months even in Florida.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

What does that have to do with what I asked? Earlier premeirdrum had said there were a few options for the area and this was the most expensive. I'm curious what the other options were.

It's a critique of current management ... and a joke.

 

[doctornick]

Honestly, for me, if they just came out and said that they'd keep the portion of RoA next to Liberty Sq and the CBJ part of Frontierland and had the boat permanently docked, I would be fine. That's it, I just want there to be a water feature where there is supposed to be a riverside.

That's my main concern. I mean, I wouldn't like losing TSI and the actual riverboat ride, but I'd be okay with it much like I'm okay with losing Maelstrom or losing the subs or any number of decisions that I have disagreed with over the years. But removing the water entirely is just IMHO idiotic and indefensible. Mostly because it doesn't even make any sense.

And I guess my thing about it is that is is so shortsighted. Keeping a proper riverside is simple for the area and even would help enhance the visual for Cars by providing some distance.

 

[tissandtully]

Not to mention Splash closes anyway during some colder months even in Florida.

it'll be closed this year too

 

[basas]

As a Brit, I find this a very strange sentiment. You guys realise that many of our theme parks over in Northern Europe already have log flumes, right?

Fair enough. Are they seasonal parks or year-round? I visited Disneyland Paris over Christmas about 10 years ago…the last thing I wanted was to get wet. I always had been under the impression that’s why Splash Mountain never made it to Paris. Anyway, it’s not a big deal…I was just surprised at the announcement.