JD80
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You know this is a weird thing to say, right?
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You know this is a weird thing to say, right?
Brer Oswald
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No. It’s pretty accurate.
lazyboy97o
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Tell that to Epcot.
Jayspency
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- In the Parks
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I don’t think Disney replacing the river is ego, though persisting despite many signs that they shouldn’t (many failed proposals to florida gov and general unpopularity of the change) I can see how that would be ego.
Grantwil93
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Im not at all a shill for the company, but i do think the logistical challenges of the area in terms of guest flow are something that does get put aside in terms of importance.
I mean, I wish they could keep a section. But when I think about how to get people in and out of the new areas without removing so much it isnt even worth having, im kind of at a loss.
TrainsOfDisney
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You can remove as much or as little as you want. The idea that a small piece of water isn’t worth saving is odd to me, not sure why it’s all or nothing.
Streetway Again
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I’m of the opinion that I at least somewhat get where they are coming from. I feel like the amount of guest flow of FOUR GROUND UP attractions added to the magic kingdom, the most popular theme park in the world, will only make the guest problem way crazier. I kidna get them thinking they need all the new guest pathway space they can get. Because they kinda do. I just kidna wish they found a way to at least save some of the river space. With a small strip of water in between, piston peak could look really nice.
At this point I’ve accepted that we are losing what we are losing, so I’m trying to at least see SOME bright side in this. Would rather do that than be angry and stuff for a few years. That’s me though. I do respect and rock with y’all fighting for the integrity of wdw and that. I’ve just kinda given in for this specific case.
TrainsOfDisney
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The crowd flow issues are extremely exaggerated. Disneyland is a much smaller park with more meandering pathways and they have figured out how to make it work. The annual attendance is pretty much the same. (On the grand scale of things 17.2 vs. 17.7).
Grantwil93
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I mean, let's say the keep a small section with the boat dock and a bit to the left and right, would that even look good with cars behind it? That water would be land locked and I don't think they have any infrastructure to keep it moving or clean atm cause it's connected to the lagoon. so they gotta build that or do something to prevent stagnant swamp water
Do you leave the boat in there as you make these changes? If you take it out, how do you get it back in? Can you do the work needed to keep a small section with the boat sitting on a dry river bed? Can it even sit on the bed with the track underneath it?
It's a challenge in and of itself. And it is probably much easier to all or nothing this than we give it credit for.
Again, I actually want the river to stay.
Brer Oswald
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The persistence definitely is, and we’ve seen it in other changes they’ve recently made. The fact that they aren’t willing to compromise even a little when they see massive pushback speaks volumes. As always, they reap what they sow
.Grantwil93
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I guess that depends on what we think compromise is. Because like, you could argue the Muppets RnR is a compromise.The persistence definitely is, and we’ve seen it in other changes they’ve recently made. The fact that they aren’t willing to compromise even a little when they see massive pushback speaks volumes. As always, they reap what they sow
Country Bears redo is a compromise too.
But, and I'm not saying this is you at all, some ppl consider compromise as Disney just not doing something.
We have to figure out what is a feasible compromise here Given all the factors. Just how much harder and more expensive is it to keep some river? If that can be determined, compromise can be suggested in good faith.
Grantwil93
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Thats my thing. I think we see that they will try to do the "right thing" if they can be convinced it's viable and a smarter decision.
I mean, I think they handled the River in DL perfectly with galaxies edge
But if they don't see it as being the smarter decision from most of the angles, they wont do it.
I mean, look at Monsters. It's so much less work on all Fronts for them to do what they are doing. There isn't a way to justify Animation Courtyard as a spot for it as anything but, "making some vocal people happy but ignoring that at least 80% of guests will love the change." In their eyes at least.
Grantwil93
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Im guessing part of why they want to do it this way is to use the existing infrastructure in the river and on the island. The power, sewage, water and possibly gas lines(for aunt polly's).
Brer Oswald
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Killing Muppetvision and RnR (two beloved attractions) is hardly a compromise. Country Bears I will give you.
A reasonable compromise for TBA would have been retaining some of the America Sings critters. A reasonable compromise for this would be keeping the front loop of the river, developing the back as villains and Northwest of Big Thunder as the Cars land.
Grantwil93
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I don't really think they are Killing RnR. Aerosmith never should have lasted as long as they did. It's a great coaster and band updates never happening has always struck me as odd.
Grantwil93
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Ill give you the america sings critters. I'm baffled by that one.
Chef idea Mickey`=
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Perhaps it's to do with maintenance of keeping up with the River and the Boat that they find now too cost that they don't want to.. What I would like to know is why Fountain of Nations is so unimportant to insignificant with Epcot and The World Showcase now that it had to go the very first thing actually!.... a Fountain isn't in the way of retransforming a park hub into a greenery park space. Maintenance over Fountain of Nations?? They just gave away their Bellagio history now over to Epic!
Mr. Sullivan
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They're not killing RnR just retheming it. Is anyone really in that ride for Aerosmith specifically? If so...you don't need a roller coaster to listen to Aerosmith.
TrainsOfDisney
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Well yeah… they don’t want to pay for daily parades in all the parks either. Or equity actors doing streemosphere, etc.