News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

TheMaxRebo

TheMaxRebo

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Mr. Sullivan said:
Just got back to my hotel after a 8:30 AM -11:00 PM day at Magic Kingdom.

Being there and spending a good amount of time purposefully with the river today, it reaffirmed my stance that if the rides they’re building (and yes, it will always be if until we’re seeing it, even if I have faith in it as is), then this will be a win for Magic Kingdom.

The Liberty Belle was consistently full, but in the three times I went around on it, very few seemed engaged with it. People on their phones, chit chat about what ride they’re doing next, just next to no fascination with it at all. We can debate the causes and displeasure all day long, but it’s hard for me to deny seeing it in person that people just kinda don’t care about it anymore. Probably haven’t for a long time.

I know the consistent argument on here has been so what if they don’t care, they don’t know better or know what they want, but I honestly think they do. They know exactly what they want and I can’t fault Disney for listening. The real estate is valuable and I think it’s pretty undeniable even without seeing an ounce of what they’re building that it’ll be a massive surge in popularity, attention, and traffic for the area.

I get it’s sad to see it go. It’s been a staple. But it’s time for a change, time’s outpaced the River’s vitality. I don’t know if the new stuff will be good or not, but I’m looking forward to finding out.
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We always spend time on TSI, but thinking of these attractions in isolation it is hard to argue that they are a great use of real estate or that the replacements won't be much more popular/better use of space from a capacity/usage standpoint

I think the argument is the ambiance and overall theming that the rivers, riverboat, and TSI provided impacted every guest whether they realized it or not and their loss will likely impact all guests

If what they do is done well I think the net impact will be positive for the majority of guests, though without some negative elements. It's just hard to quantify how much things like theming and ambiance impact the average guest (who isn't the type to be on these boards or think about things like that)
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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Mr. Sullivan said:
The Liberty Belle was consistently full, but in the three times I went around on it, very few seemed engaged with it. People on their phones, chit chat about what ride they’re doing next, just next to no fascination with it at all.
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How dare people chit chat!!! Any attraction that promotes chit chat should instantly be torn down.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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JD80 said:
The arguments that I read here to keep it are equally weak.

It is what it is.
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Starship824

Starship824

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In the Parks
No
Mr. Sullivan said:
Just got back to my hotel after a 8:30 AM -11:00 PM day at Magic Kingdom.

Being there and spending a good amount of time purposefully with the river today, it reaffirmed my stance that if the rides they’re building (and yes, it will always be if until we’re seeing it, even if I have faith in it as is), then this will be a win for Magic Kingdom.

The Liberty Belle was consistently full, but in the three times I went around on it, very few seemed engaged with it. People on their phones, chit chat about what ride they’re doing next, just next to no fascination with it at all. We can debate the causes and displeasure all day long, but it’s hard for me to deny seeing it in person that people just kinda don’t care about it anymore. Probably haven’t for a long time.

I know the consistent argument on here has been so what if they don’t care, they don’t know better or know what they want, but I honestly think they do. They know exactly what they want and I can’t fault Disney for listening. The real estate is valuable and I think it’s pretty undeniable even without seeing an ounce of what they’re building that it’ll be a massive surge in popularity, attention, and traffic for the area.

I get it’s sad to see it go. It’s been a staple. But it’s time for a change, time’s outpaced the River’s vitality. I don’t know if the new stuff will be good or not, but I’m looking forward to finding out.
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I'm sorry but isn't the point of the attention to relax take in the views and talk with your family? Do you want people to sit their in silence and watch the trees the whole time and only talk about the animatronics and props on the river? This is a bad argument for removing it in my opinion.
 
JD80

JD80

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TrainsOfDisney said:
Well…. That’s not what I said. But just wondering… What’s a strong argument?
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I don't think that there is a strong argument for removing RoA that we can state as the public. Any strong argument would have to be based on personal inside knowledge about the project. I think even the most excited people are only cautiously optimistic. I'm in this boat.

I love change, I love new things. I understand the sentiment of those who don't want RoA to go because it is a beautiful part of the park. I'm an optimistic person and always view things in an optimistic light. If this thing sucks, I'll be the first person to bash Disney about it. But without knowing the details outside some old concept art, I remain excited about a new addition to the park.
 
Disone

Disone

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AidenRodriguez731 said:
Is there that much real estate in MK without going of course out of the berm + having to deal with the logistics of people having to walk around the river to the next land. I think this is a sensible option to even connect possible future expansions to the park itself.
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Future expansions? After this how much more future expansions is the Magic Kingdom going to get. And even if they do, this reasoning would apply to those as well.
 
dmc493

dmc493

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I really just want them to release concept art that gives a clearer idea of the land's layout and overall landscape. It would force me to choose whether I'm actually excited or disappointed with their plans... Their half-blurry watercolor sketch art approach drives me up the wall
 
neo999955

neo999955

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In the Parks
No
Obviously, no one can speak for all guests at large - we all have different tastes, interests, values etc. That’s without saying, I hope.

When it coms to TSI, personally - I’ve now been to WDW about 10 times with about 25 different people (plus 3 kids) and not one person on any of my trips has ever even considered jumping on that boat or island. Again, not saying that means it should be removed, but it’s probably the only ride that no one has ever brought up as a possibility to do. Surely I go with people like me, but that’s included young people, people approaching 60, parents, kids, people who don’t like intense rides and people who are happy to do anything.

I am sad I never experienced it, but even if I were in MK tomorrow, I don’t think I’d go. That said, I am super interested in the new Cars ride. Sorry to be one of the Disney fans that ruins it for a lot of other folks, but I’m pretty sure it’s the people like me that are causing this to go away.
 
Incomudro

Incomudro

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neo999955 said:
Obviously, no one can speak for all guests at large - we all have different tastes, interests, values etc. That’s without saying, I hope.

When it coms to TSI, personally - I’ve now been to WDW about 10 times with about 25 different people (plus 3 kids) and not one person on any of my trips has ever even considered jumping on that boat or island. Again, not saying that means it should be removed, but it’s probably the only ride that no one has ever brought up as a possibility to do. Surely I go with people like me, but that’s included young people, people approaching 60, parents, kids, people who don’t like intense rides and people who are happy to do anything.

I am sad I never experienced it, but even if I were in MK tomorrow, I don’t think I’d go. That said, I am super interested in the new Cars ride. Sorry to be one of the Disney fans that ruins it for a lot of other folks, but I’m pretty sure it’s the people like me that are causing this to go away.
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It's the ambiance, scenery, classic Disney, and other intangible's that the river and boat bring.
Things that aren't measured on a spread sheet, excitement meter, etc.
Look... Even if I didn't go on Everest (and I do) what the visual of that structure adds to AK is immearuable.
For that matter, we don't ride Cinderella's Castle.
Surely something more exciting or engaging can occupy the real estate.
 
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Jedi14

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Incomudro said:
For that matter, we don't ride Cinderella's Castle.
Surely something more exciting or engaging can occupy the real estate.
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Technically, the castle has the stage show, fireworks, Cinderella’s Royal Table, and the Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique. It’s also the park icon, so I would say the castle is pulling more weight than the river or island.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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Incomudro said:
It's the ambiance, scenery, classic Disney, and other intangible's that the river and boat bring.
Things that aren't measured on a spread sheet, excitement meter, etc.
Look... Even if I didn't go on Everest (and I do) what the visual of that structure adds to AK is immearuable.
For that matter, we don't ride Cinderella's Castle.
Surely something more exciting or engaging can occupy the real estate.
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Totally agree -
Everest is a beauty to look at.
Of course WDW's castle - the best one of all the castle parks.
The tree of life at AK
Main Street USA, if I neve entered any store, still beautiful to look at.
Spaceship Earth!
And also Rivers of America - beautiful surroundings to take in even if you never when to TSI or used the riverboat.

We can only hope this Cars area will have some beautiful surroundings to take in.
Looking at the blurry AI concept rendering, there may be some beautiful scenery.

RoA will be gone.
The only constant at WDW is change.
 

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