News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[el_super]

When was the last time they expanded a theme park at Walt Disney World?

I don't understand why it matters? There is already more shows/attractions/venues in each and every park than people can realistically do within an entire day, so why would adding more add any additional value to a visit?

Is rivers of America somehow infinitely more popular at Disneyland than it is at Walt Disney World? No. It's not. Fantasmic you say? They have World of color. And Disneyland already has fireworks and when they want to electrical parades.

Yes they do. 10,000+ people still show up every night to watch Fantasmic.

They have to get rid of the lower performing countries first.

You're misunderstanding. If they kept adding more and more countries, let's say they bump it up to 30. How many would you still be able to visit during your day? 8? 9? Which ones get cut from your visit? Adding new attractions inevitably leads to crowds shifting toward the new and leaving the old. And when you don't sell enough hot dogs at the hot dog stand to cover your costs, what happens?

 

[JackCH]

It is frustrating because DL did not lose their RoA for Galaxy's Edge, but we have to lose ours for CarsLand, which is impossible to be as amazing as the headliner and scenery of the original CarsLand.

I think villains land is closer conceptually to Galaxy’s edge (as far as location and offering), Cars is its own unique thing and should be evaluated separately.

It shouldn’t be CarsFrontier vs Galaxy’s Edge, or even Carsland, but when it is all said and done it should be CarsFrontier vs Rivers of America.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Feels wrong to speculate on what a guy you never knew who died 60 years ago would do with a park he never saw, a today he does not know, and a current fanbase that he would not understand.

Also I think he would have done some live action remakes because he did facilitate plenty of live action remakes of stories :/ defo not at the scale Disney now does them but he would be blind to not see how much that revenue could help the parks.

You said It feels wrong to speculate but you just what you just did in your post (I think he would have done live action) . It’s ok, we all do it.

I think Walt would have not filled in RoA.

In my opinion, RoA will never be fully filled in at Disneyland, it’s sacred there but it seems nothing is sacred at WDW.

I will miss CoP at WDW as it’s only a matter of time.

 

[Andrew25]

You said It feels wrong to speculate but you just what you just did in your post (I think he would have done live action) . It’s ok, we all do it.

I think Walt would have not filled in RoA.

In my opinion, RoA will never be fully filled in at Disneyland, it’s sacred there but it seems nothing is sacred at WDW.

I will miss CoP at WDW as it’s only a matter of time.

Once DL fixes up the Tomorrowland/Eastern side of the park, I'd then worry about Rivers of America being filled in partially.

 

[JD80]

You're misunderstanding. If they kept adding more and more countries, let's say they bump it up to 30. How many would you still be able to visit during your day? 8? 9? Which ones get cut from your visit? Adding new attractions inevitably leads to crowds shifting toward the new and leaving the old. And when you don't sell enough hot dogs at the hot dog stand to cover your costs, what happens?

Very good point from an operations point of view. There is a huge difference between square footage expansions and desirable capacity expansions.

 

[jah4955]

I think blessing of size is now a lost term. Today you can expand any Walt Disney World park but it's always cheaper to get rid of a older Attraction.

So that option will always win.

{Soap box}

In Walt Disney World's corporate quest to value engineer the value out of everything none of the recent expansions announced for Walt Disney World parks are actual expansions. They're all replacements of existing (or long dormant) attraction pads

If Disneyland can legitimately expand I'm certainly in no position to make excuses for Walt Disney World. And there is absolutely no reason for why Walt Disney WORLD'S four theme parks should have less rides than disneyLAND'S 2 parks. The ride count shouldn't even be close, unless we're going to use the excuse that the Walt Disney World guests genuinely Is more interested in atmospheric experiences, but if they use that excuse then we they cannot justify the removal of Rivers of America in favor of an new Cars attraction.

No excuses except for Walt Disney World is just cheap.

" The parks are not a museum" Is an excuse.

" It's an outdated attraction" Is an excuse.

" It cost too much to maintain" Is an excuse.

There is one reason, Team Disney Orlando completely understands that the Walt Disney World guest is blindly loyal to them and will absolutely accept mediocracy and less value for more cost. Blessing of size Is not needed when your fan base will make the excuses for you.

{Off the soap box}

I know, I am wrong.

I'm not giving-up altogether because they did not remove anything to add Tron.

 

[JD80]

I think using the words cheap is the wrong way of saying things. There is always going to be a cost benefit analysis. Cheap is just a word people use when someone does something and they don't like it.

 

[erasure fan1]

In my opinion, RoA will never be fully filled in at Disneyland, it’s sacred there but it seems nothing is sacred at WDW.

Personally I don't think anything is sacred at any park. If something can make an extra buck now, they'll replace anything. Legacy be damned. Disneyland is safer than world, but when push comes to shove, nothings safe.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Personally I don't think anything is sacred at any park. If something can make an extra buck now, they'll replace anything. Legacy be damned. Disneyland is safer than world, but when push comes to shove, nothings safe.

Sadly, I agree.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Once DL fixes up the Tomorrowland/Eastern side of the park, I'd then worry about Rivers of America being filled in partially.

If we must wait for DLs people mover to be fixed first then RoA is safe forever

 

[Disone]

I'm not giving-up altogether because they did not remove anything to add Tron.

Fair. Though they did trim down the speedway slightly. Second time they have done that to the speedway, first time being with the creation of Mickey's Birthday land .

I would be okay with a shorter river and even the closure of TSI; TSI kept only for the purpose of keeping the river look.

 

[Disone]

Once DL fixes up the Tomorrowland/Eastern side of the park, I'd then worry about Rivers of America being filled in partially.

That was a terrible mistake for sure. Let's not use that mistake to justify this one. Two wrongs don't make it right

 

[peter11435]

Fair. Though they did trim down the speedway slightly. Second time they have done that to the speedway, first time being with the creation of Mickey's Birthday land .

I would be okay with a shorter river and even the closure of TSI; TSI kept only for the purpose of keeping the river look.

Third. It was trimmed slightly for Storybook Circus also

 

[peter11435]

Third. It was trimmed slightly for Storybook Circus also

Actually fourth now that I think about it because it was also altered slightly to accommodate space mountain.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I don't understand why it matters? There is already more shows/attractions/venues in each and every park than people can realistically do within an entire day, so why would adding more add any additional value to a visit?

In my opinion -

I think you can hit all the shows/attractions/venues when you use LLPP.

The regular folks can only get on 3 or 4 attractions because the lack of attractions that need to serve the many, many people that show up on a given day.

 

[erasure fan1]

I don't understand why it matters? There is already more shows/attractions/venues in each and every park than people can realistically do within an entire day, so why would adding more add any additional value to a visit?

The simple answer is yes, it would add lots of value for lots of people. More attractions would allow you to see more attractions in a day. Plain and simple. It will spread people around the parks, reducing wait times at lots of attractions. The only park that you could make the argument for holding off on more attractions is the magic Kingdom. The other 3 parks all need significant boosts in attractions to take pressure off of the MK. But let's be real, Disney just wants that sweet LL cash. So why spend money truly expanding the parks?

 

[Disstevefan1]

More attractions would allow you to see more attractions in a day. Plain and simple. It will spread people around the parks, reducing wait times at lots of attractions.

 

[aladdin2007]

It is frustrating because DL did not lose their RoA for Galaxy's Edge, but we have to lose ours for CarsLand, which is impossible to be as amazing as the headliner and scenery of the original CarsLand.

worse than that we have to lose ours for a dirt truck rally, its really a crime.

 

[mickEblu]

worse than that we have to lose ours for a dirt truck rally, its really a crime.

Long time Disneylander here and I feel for you guys. Probably more than any other person that’s not really effected by this change. I’d be livid if this was happening at Disneyland.

 

[Fox&Hound]

Monsters inc is a replacement of Muppets, Pandora was a replacement for Camp Mickey and Star Wars replaced Streets of America. Yeah they were all expansions.

Stop! Camp Minnie Mickey was not a land and you can’t even play like it was. It wad a few statues and meet and greets used as a placeholder. Yes there was the Lion King show but that moved. Nice try!