Brian
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I would think it's at least something being considered. After all, they did just do the boiler replacement a few years ago, and it wasn't cheap.That is an excellent idea! And that is exactly why it will never happen.
I would think it's at least something being considered. After all, they did just do the boiler replacement a few years ago, and it wasn't cheap.That is an excellent idea! And that is exactly why it will never happen.
especially if its trackless... I really hope they go old school with the ride mechanics to make it reliable.I don't really have any doubt the new area will look great. As a big national parks fan (where we go on the majority of our vacations) I really am partial to the look they are going for. Don't think Disney is cheapening out on it, they knew from holding back this announcement at D23 that it would be unpopular so they have to knock it out of the park. My biggest worry is that the ride will be unreliable. It's gonna be at least moderately high-speed outdoors in Florida so it likely will have significant downtime no matter the ride system
No way we are losing Rivers of America completely.
I think Cars will be a massive audience draw and will turn out better than expected. Western River Expedition in that space would have been better thematically but wouldn't t print the merch like Cars!I hate that it's being used for Cars, that is what gets me the most. I personally despise that film, couldn't even sit through it, legitimately one of the worst Pixar films imo. If TSI was removed for Villains Land, I'd be more than welcome for that change. But to sacrifice it for Cars is just lame. Cars is not something I could see lasting 50+ years in the MK, unlike the original lands of the park. At least Villains probably has a very solid chance of having staying power.
Unpopular is not a bad thing all the time. Parks need those things as well as new attractions. While many may not ride Rivers of America, there were some that did.There is no doubt in my mind that this Cars attraction will be the #1 most popular attraction across all four parks (at least until Villains opens). Absolutely guaranteed.
The land also looks beautiful, so it will ALSO provide character, atmosphere, and beauty.
They're replacing a beautiful, unpopular thing, with something that will be tremendously popular *and is also beautiful.*
Its been taken to the maintenance facility in Bay Lake of course, with help from other vessels is my understanding.I'm asking because I literally don't know - but is the Belle suitable for open water? Its hull is so shallow....
What we’re losing, however, is breathing room, and that isn’t unimportant either. Not every inch of “unused” space needs to be filled; in as crowded an environment as the Magic Kingdom, a bit of visual and spatial respite from all the busyness is a wonderful thing.
I mean, if you ignore all the other water features.Absolutely ridiculous.
Zero water in the Magic Kingdom.
Bewilderingly ridiculous that they’ve imploded the best land in the park.
Circus tents remain in Fantasyland. A spinner clogs Adventureland. Tomorrow has countless ugly vistas and remains a concrete jungle with an active pollution.
But sure, let’s obliterate the tranquil zen with a loud and obnoxious and out of place ride.
Unbelievable
There are some great pictures around that show her traversing both SSL and BL, but I wasn't sure how worthy she'd be with payload.Its been taken to the maintenance facility in Bay Lake of course, with help from other vessels is my understanding.
Convert Tomorrowland to Wreck it Ralph Sugar Rush Racers. Use electric vehicles and add indoor areas for a top notch lighting package.YOU DON'T SAY, @Horizons '83.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Zero water in the Magic Kingdom.
Bewilderingly ridiculous that they’ve imploded the best land in the park.
Circus tents remain in Fantasyland. A spinner clogs Adventureland. Tomorrow has countless ugly vistas and remains a concrete jungle with an active pollution.
But sure, let’s obliterate the tranquil zen with a loud and obnoxious and out of place ride.
Unbelievable
But without the need to periodically remove a steam-powered riverboat for maintenance, they no longer need to maintain the lock they have in place to maintain the RoA water level. That saves bucks right there.The concrete at the base of the rivers isn’t really meaningful. It’s spread out and really only there to maintain definition and hold the track. I’d also guess they never really bothered to deal with any leaks.
Yeah I think the current banks of ROA are clearly gonna the border between the attraction/new land and the liberty sqaure. My guess is that there is significant berm with new trees and potentially a small water feature, and the attraction looks to be sunken more by Liberty Square versus the transition to the rest of Frontierland.Judging by the art, theres an entire full-size walkway between the two. They're currently doing a TON of work to DL's HM queue, so who says they can't change the WDW queue to have a couple of additional walls to block the view & sound? Right now its not a concern because theres a River next to it, but theres no evidence that they haven't considered the intrusion of the Cars attraction onto the HM's ambiance.
I hope they do it!I would think it's at least something being considered. After all, they did just do the boiler replacement a few years ago, and it wasn't cheap.
It’s a concern if half of livery square is gone. For me, anyway. That’s part of the Mansion’s ambiance. It’s part of a New England town on the banks of a river.Judging by the art, theres an entire full-size walkway between the two. They're currently doing a TON of work to DL's HM queue, so who says they can't change the WDW queue to have a couple of additional walls to block the view & sound? Right now its not a concern because theres a River next to it, but theres no evidence that they haven't considered the intrusion of the Cars attraction onto the HM's ambiance.
The original concept of Frontierland is problematic for a number of reasons: slavery and racism, the treatment of native Americans; women largely didn't have the right to vote. It would be incredibly difficult for Disney to develop a new story in that context. We got 70+ years out of the idea. Let's be happy with that.
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