News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Coaster Lover]

But will merch/food sold in the new Cars area increase revenues that much?

Possibly, yes. Cars is one of the most profitable franchises in the Disney umbrella. Merchandise wise, Cars sells more merch (world wide) than many other popular Disney brands including Toy Story, Spider Man and the MCU. Merchandise wise, Cars' sales are along the same line as Batman (and honestly not that far behind Barbie). Does Disney still sell Cars merch around WDW without having a dedicated Cars land? Sure. Could they sell a lot more if they had a store in a land dedicated to just Cars merch? Possibly... It's one of the reason the Harry Potter lands have been expanded so much. Sure they are popular, but what REALLY drives the land is the profitability off of the merch they are selling.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

The one time I’m happy that the permitting process takes forever.

And there it is...the first indication of slow-walking permits for WDW from the FL government.

Believe me, everybody gets this treatment. Permitting is a nightmare, even for Disney.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Really this is just another reason why they should not be building either the Cars or Villains areas. It is not easy to build on water or wetlands in Florida. They have so much other expansion potential at MK that seems like much lower hanging fruit that it really boggles the mind that they’re going with this instead

 

[Sneaky]

I don’t think this gets canned. Too late now. Why would they even, this should be Minor.

 

[Starship824]

Really this is just another reason why they should not be building either the Cars or Villains areas. It is not easy to build on water or wetlands in Florida. They have so much other expansion potential at MK that seems like much lower hanging fruit that it really boggles the mind that they’re going with this instead

If they had that attitude WDW would never have been built. The entire resort is basically built on wetlands.

 

[Raineman]

I don’t think this gets canned. Too late now. Why would they even, this should be Minor.

I don't think anything that involves Disney and the Florida government will ever be minor now.

 

[Sneaky]

I don't think anything that involves Disney and the Florida government will ever be minor now.

What I mean is I don’t think this results in significant changes to the plans as some people are hoping.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Really this is just another reason why they should not be building either the Cars or Villains areas. It is not easy to build on water or wetlands in Florida. They have so much other expansion potential at MK that seems like much lower hanging fruit that it really boggles the mind that they’re going with this instead

Whatever Disney does (in its theme parks) is driven by money. It could be cheaper to build there, there could be tax reasons, there is of course now building attractions so they can sell LL for them.

It’s all about money, not the guest experience.

 

[Andrew25]

It's standard red tape protocol. This stuff unfortunately happens all the time. Disney filed the permits for the trailers for DAK a while back now and they haven't done anything there yet. No need to worry just yet.

 

[Raineman]

What I mean is I don’t think this results in significant changes to the plans as some people are hoping.

Probably not, but the delay might be an issue when it comes to the projected opening date, depending on how quickly the permits get resolved.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

What I mean is I don’t think this results in significant changes to the plans as some people are hoping.

nobody knows for sure, if there is any significant delay or change of budget it could change some things.

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

I don’t think this gets canned. Too late now. Why would they even, this should be Minor.

How is it too late if they've done nothing? Creative was done on plenty of EPCOT projects, significant development even happened on a few, and they all got canned. I don't think this project gets canceled either but I'm shocked at how confident people are that nothing can stop it.

 

[Sneaky]

How is it too late if they've done nothing? Creative was done on plenty of EPCOT projects, significant development even happened on a few, and they all got canned. I don't think this project gets canceled either but I'm shocked at how confident people are that nothing can stop it.

I mean you are true, but this is the one of the most merchandisable properties for Disney, in the most visited theme park in the world. Less likley this gets canned for that reason. If anything, villains would be the one to be canned. It’s much more blue sky, and farther out. But this is just minor red tape.

 

[erasure fan1]

Less likley this gets canned for that reason. If anything, villains would be the one to be canned. It’s much more blue sky, and farther out.

That's not out of the realm of possibility. Villains won't start until well after dark universe opens at Uni. If that doesn't go over so well, I think it's going to do fantastic, I could see Disney adjust. But cars sells a lot, so I highly doubt anything there changes. That said, I really don't see anything really changing with either land except for the real possibility of budget cuts. I foresee both lands get built, I can also see the scope of these projects get nerfed a fair amount.

 

[John park hopper]

Anybody got a spare snail darter to put in RoA that would surely shut cars down

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

but this is the one of the most merchandisable properties for Disney, in the most visited theme park in the world.

Cars Land opened 12 years ago…. Nothing has been stopping them from building something so far. I mean the speedway has been sitting there this whole time….

 

[MisterPenguin]

It seems the main sticking points are:

1. the laydown yards which are wetlands and part of the flood plain. They'd need to be cleared and dewatered to be used that way. And Florida makes people buy and reserve much large plots of wetlands to offset such usage, usually. I'm sure Florida wants to know... "Hey, all that buildable land you just created... planning to build on it, perhaps?"

2. The "river" of RoA. Disney just needs to show them that it's just a giant shallow cee-ment pond. There's isn't a working beaver lodge or any other natural biome in it.

3. And when it rains, where is the water landing in the park going to go?

 

[Dunston]

This project will get more and more expensive and then Villains Land will be Avengers Campus-level.

 

[Disstevefan1]

It seems the main sticking points are:

1. the laydown yards which are wetlands and part of the flood plain. They'd need to be cleared and dewatered to be used that way. And Florida makes people buy and reserve much large plots of wetlands to offset such usage, usually. I'm sure Florida wants to know... "Hey, all that buildable land you just created... planning to build on it, perhaps?"

2. The "river" of RoA. Disney just needs to show them that it's just a giant shallow cee-ment pond. There's isn't a working beaver lodge or any other natural biome in it.

3. And when it rains, where is the water landing in the park going to go?

The penguin’s got a point when TWDC was, let’s face it, running RCID, they could do as they please. Now with CFTOD, that freedom is gone.

So, yes, the path of least resistance is to destroy ROA, TSI.

And TWDC has only itself to blame for losing RCID.

And it’s only really the guests who suffer.

 

[danlb_2000]

Read the article, i honestly didnt think of the wildlife implications. I think Disney gets this sorted out, but idk. Red tape here we come! @danlb_2000 update with TSI permits.

Here is a link to the letter...

https://apps.sfwmd.gov/entsb/docdownload?object_id=0900eeea96a2a6a7

it's not unusual for SFWMD to look for more information on a permit, but this is one of the more extensive lists of issues that I have seen.