What I mean is I don’t think this results in significant changes to the plans as some people are hoping.
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Disstevefan1
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Whatever Disney does (in its theme parks) is driven by money. It could be cheaper to build there, there could be tax reasons, there is of course now building attractions so they can sell LL for them.
It’s all about money, not the guest experience.
Raineman
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Probably not, but the delay might be an issue when it comes to the projected opening date, depending on how quickly the permits get resolved.
TrainsOfDisney
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nobody knows for sure, if there is any significant delay or change of budget it could change some things.
DreamfinderGuy
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How is it too late if they've done nothing? Creative was done on plenty of EPCOT projects, significant development even happened on a few, and they all got canned. I don't think this project gets canceled either but I'm shocked at how confident people are that nothing can stop it.
I mean you are true, but this is the one of the most merchandisable properties for Disney, in the most visited theme park in the world. Less likley this gets canned for that reason. If anything, villains would be the one to be canned. It’s much more blue sky, and farther out. But this is just minor red tape.
erasure fan1
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That's not out of the realm of possibility. Villains won't start until well after dark universe opens at Uni. If that doesn't go over so well, I think it's going to do fantastic, I could see Disney adjust. But cars sells a lot, so I highly doubt anything there changes. That said, I really don't see anything really changing with either land except for the real possibility of budget cuts. I foresee both lands get built, I can also see the scope of these projects get nerfed a fair amount.
John park hopper
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Anybody got a spare snail darter to put in RoA that would surely shut cars down
TrainsOfDisney
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Cars Land opened 12 years ago…. Nothing has been stopping them from building something so far. I mean the speedway has been sitting there this whole time….
It seems the main sticking points are:
1. the laydown yards which are wetlands and part of the flood plain. They'd need to be cleared and dewatered to be used that way. And Florida makes people buy and reserve much large plots of wetlands to offset such usage, usually. I'm sure Florida wants to know... "Hey, all that buildable land you just created... planning to build on it, perhaps?"
2. The "river" of RoA. Disney just needs to show them that it's just a giant shallow cee-ment pond. There's isn't a working beaver lodge or any other natural biome in it.
3. And when it rains, where is the water landing in the park going to go?
1. the laydown yards which are wetlands and part of the flood plain. They'd need to be cleared and dewatered to be used that way. And Florida makes people buy and reserve much large plots of wetlands to offset such usage, usually. I'm sure Florida wants to know... "Hey, all that buildable land you just created... planning to build on it, perhaps?"
2. The "river" of RoA. Disney just needs to show them that it's just a giant shallow cee-ment pond. There's isn't a working beaver lodge or any other natural biome in it.
3. And when it rains, where is the water landing in the park going to go?
Disstevefan1
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The penguin’s got a point when TWDC was, let’s face it, running RCID, they could do as they please. Now with CFTOD, that freedom is gone.
So, yes, the path of least resistance is to destroy ROA, TSI.
And TWDC has only itself to blame for losing RCID.
And it’s only really the guests who suffer.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Here is a link to the letter...
it's not unusual for SFWMD to look for more information on a permit, but this is one of the more extensive lists of issues that I have seen.
donsullivan
Premium Member
This is not CFTOD, this is South Florida Water Management District. They go through this stuff all the time and have for many, many decades. A good (albeit smaller) example was when they build the Grand Flo DVC, they filled in part of Seven Seas Lagoon to site the building where they did. SFWMD required them to restore the water storage capacity lost from filling that in as part of approving the permits. They just dug Bay Lake out a little larger just east of the water bridge to maintain the storage capacity of the water system. This sort of stuff happens all the time for every major construction project in Florida. SFWMD wants to be sure the construction will not cause a new flooding problem either upstream, downstream or within the construction area after it's completed and make sure plans are in place to mitigate that. This is pretty ordinary stuff for this sort of project.
The DAK permit was approved by the state already, right?
Batman'sParents
Active Member
This is pretty common in FL with projects related to wetland mitigation. I need to find it, but I'm pretty I had seen something before that Disney had indicated that there was land west of Magic Kingdom that offset impacted land from proposed redevelopment sites.
PascagoulaRun
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As somebody who does this type of work for a living, the RAI is pretty boilerplate. There's nothing in there that's going to force them to make substantial changes.
Tha Realest
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Disney should welcome this! It’s another opportunity to demonstrate their commitment to preserving the environment.
Tha Realest
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If that’s true, do they need to offset the loss of ROA with another expansion of that body of water?