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[TrainsOfDisney]

They are focusing more on what the millennial/Gen Y/Gen Z crowd like and want, and not seemingly caring about what the boomer/Gen X crowd want.

Speaking as a millennial - this is not what I want, nor other millennial park fans that I know.

 

[danlb_2000]

Anyone posting on a Disney fan forum is emotionally attached to the Disney Parks.

The RoA is still extremely important to the design of Frontierland. Although aesthetics aren't objective in the same way mathematics is, they're also not arbitrary and Disney hasn't given much in the way of a reason to think "Cars" will be a tasteful update to Frontierland. That's not to say that such a thing isn't possible.

The impression I get is that Frontierland won't be Frontierland as we know it when this is all done.

 

[Raineman]

Speaking as a millennial - this is not what I want, nor other millennial park fans that I know.

I was just talking in generalities-I should have added "most" or "majority" to what I said. Maybe I shouldn't have included millennials in there, but certainly the youngest generations will have less attachment in general that the older generations. People in their teens and early 20s will know what Cars is, but will have little to no knowledge of who Tom Sawyer is or what a steamboat is.

 

[CoasterCowboy67]

“Here in Florida we have something special we never enjoyed at Disneyland: the blessing of size. There's enough land here to hold all the ideas and plans we could possibly imagine.”

Totally agree, and anyone who’s been to the FL and CA resorts can easily see how the size difference creates a completely different experience

DL in particular has a huge density issue. Poor guys there have crammed everything they can and the result is a menagerie of mini-lands with little immersion or transition. You got Tarzan’s Treehouse next door to New Orleans and Pooh sitting in the English Countryside Bayou Country

The FL parks breathe way more, and have a way more believable suspension of reality as a result

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I was just talking in generalities-I should have added "most" or "majority" to what I said. Maybe I shouldn't have included millennials in there, but certainly the youngest generations will have less attachment in general that the older generations. People in their teens and early 20s will know what Cars is, but will have little to no knowledge of who Tom Sawyer is or what a steamboat is.

may I ask what generation you are in?

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Another trend that goes hand-in-hand with what you are saying is that these are getting axed because of IP-based attractions-and not just any IP, but exclusively recent IP, ie IP from the last two decades. Even MMRR is based on the newer version of a classic IP (Mickey). It seems Disney is trying to distance itself from anything "classic" and are in the process of phasing "classic" out of the parks. They are focusing more on what the millennial/Gen Y/Gen Z crowd like and want, and not seemingly caring about what the boomer/Gen X crowd want. It's getting to the point that classic attractions that no one would have thought would ever be changed/eliminated could now be in danger of that happening, regardless of how busy they are.

As someone in Gen Z, I can assure you, pretty much all of what my generation likes is considered "classic" at this point. Lion King, Aladdin, Mulan, etc (granted most of those were out by the time I was born, the first Disney movie to come out after I was born was Mulan, and the last while I was still in "childhood" was Wreck-it-Ralph). Millennials are even older, they were there for the entire Renassiance and golden era of the parks. The peak Eisner years. If anyone knows how amazing the parks used to be, it's the millennials.

But yeah, Disney is 100% focusing on recent, currently hot IP that haven't proven they can stand the test of time. Will Encanto be popular by the time the ride opens? Will people still care about Cars in 20 years?

 

[bmr1591]

Another trend that goes hand-in-hand with what you are saying is that these are getting axed because of IP-based attractions-and not just any IP, but exclusively recent IP, ie IP from the last two decades. Even MMRR is based on the newer version of a classic IP (Mickey). It seems Disney is trying to distance itself from anything "classic" and are in the process of phasing "classic" out of the parks. They are focusing more on what the millennial/Gen Y/Gen Z crowd like and want, and not seemingly caring about what the boomer/Gen X crowd want. It's getting to the point that classic attractions that no one would have thought would ever be changed/eliminated could now be in danger of that happening, regardless of how busy they are.

What classics are they removing? And I'm speaking more in the classic IP realm, not the non-IP attractions that have been there a long time.

 

[Bocabear]

that is already messed up with the New Orlans Specific location separating Big Thunder from Frontierland... Now add a national parks and Pixar franchise and there is no such thing as a Frontierland anymore. Just more IP and out-of-place attractions that make no sense in their locations... Sleeping Beauty in Pandora? Sure! Cinderella in Tomorrowland? Why not? Mulan in the Morocco Pavilion? Perfect fit! It seems these days that there is a plan to smash all the lines of sense and make all of the theme parks a disorganized mass of random IP... you know, like an Amusement park... Why bother with theme or planning? Let's all go on Spaceship Pinocchio at Epcot!

 

[bmr1591]

As someone in Gen Z, I can assure you, pretty much all of what my generation likes is considered "classic" at this point. Lion King, Aladdin, Mulan, etc. But yeah, Disney is 100% focusing on recent, currently hot IP that haven't proven they can stand the test of time.

Will Encanto be popular by the time the ride opens? Will people still care about Cars in 20 years?

Yes and yes. Cars is 20 years old already and is still beloved by a large portion of guests.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Yes and yes. Cars is 20 years old already and is still beloved by a large portion of guests.

On Encanto- how can you be sure? It's already not nearly as popular as it was when it came out, Moana and Frozen have proven to be much more popular. You got me there with Cars, though with it already being 20, who's to say it'll last another 20? Think of how many highly popular Disney franchises dropped off after a few decades. Pooh isn't nearly as popular as it once was, Jungle Book, 101 Dalmatians, etc etc... even Toy Story is starting to become unpopular in the public eye after Lightyear bombed and Toy Story 5 was announced to nearly entirely negative response.

I think there's a place for "newer" IP, but they should really see if they're able to stand the test of time. How well Moana 2 does will probably dictate if that Moana ride is ever built.

 

[bmr1591]

On Encanto- how can you be sure? It's already not nearly as popular as it was when it came out, Moana and Frozen have proven to be much more popular. You got me there with Cars, though with it already being 20, who's to say it'll last another 20? Think of how many highly popular Disney franchises dropped off after a few decades. Pooh isn't nearly as popular as it once was, Jungle Book, 101 Dalmatians, etc etc... even Toy Story is starting to become unpopular in the public eye after Lightyear bombed and Toy Story 5 was announced to nearly entirely negative response.

I think there's a place for "newer" IP, but they should really see if they're able to stand the test of time. How well Moana 2 does will probably dictate if that Moana ride is ever built.

Honestly, kids are born every day and families play Disney+ in their homes so the kids grow up watching the classics and the new stuff. They aren't going to fall out of favor anytime soon.

I also find it strange how many people (not necessarily you) complain when Disney is slow to act on a popular IP, but when they do act, it's a terrible decision.

 

[Schmidt]

Anyone posting on a Disney fan forum is emotionally attached to the Disney Parks.

The RoA is still extremely important to the design of Frontierland. Although aesthetics aren't objective in the same way mathematics is, they're also not arbitrary and Disney hasn't given much in the way of a reason to think "Cars" will be a tasteful update to Frontierland. That's not to say that such a thing isn't possible.

What you are describing is NOT what I’m talking about. I also think Disney can easily knock it out of the park if they want too. I think there are recent examples of this in Pandora and YES Starwars land. I don’t subscribe to the idea that Starwars land isn’t amazing. Some of the fans in here only see what they don’t get.

 

[Quietmouse]

I think everyone is forgetting that cars came out in 2006. The ip is almost 20 years old.

I would argue that it still holds strong relevancy in todays Disney culture and to me it’s reaching classic status rather rapidly.

I don’t really care for the films, but I understand why the characters work and why this is the princess equivalent for boys.

 

[Starship824]

I think everyone is forgetting that cars came out in 2006. The ip is almost 20 years old.

I would argue that it still holds strong relevancy in todays Disney culture and to me it’s reaching classic status rather rapidly.

I don’t really care for the films, but I understand why the characters work and why this is the princess equivalent for boys.

Ok but why does it have to go into Frontier land where it doesn't fit at all.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

As someone in Gen Z, I can assure you, pretty much all of what my generation likes is considered "classic" at this point.

Thanks - I’m getting tired of being told what millennials and gen z want when that’s not what we actually want! Haha. (From a millennial).

I think there are recent examples of this in Pandora and YES Starwars land. I don’t subscribe to the idea that Starwars land isn’t amazing. Some of the fans in here only see what they don’t get.

I’ve never seen an Avatar movie and have no desire to see one and they knocked Pandora out of the park.

I’ve watched every major Star Wars movie (I skipped Solo) and think Star Wars land is pretty “eh” - I booked a trip to Disneyland to see it right when it opened and was totally disappointed. I’m not sure what is supposed to make it amazing?

 

[el_super]

Ok but why does it have to go into Frontier land where it doesn't fit at all.

Something has to replace Frontierland.

 

[Starship824]

Something has to replace Frontierland.

Why? There are popular attractions like TBA and Big thunder, they just updated the country bears and it's not like anyone was complaining about the rivers of America or Tom Sawyer Island before, well and least not a substantial amount of people were.

 

[Quietmouse]

Ok but why does it have to go into Frontier land where it doesn't fit at all.

It’s supposed to be a part of a reimagined frontier land as a whole. My best guess is the old time western feel will be replaced with a more modern aesthetic look of how we view the frontier (think Colorado mountain resort town).

The concept art is based off the animated film planes…the whole concept is about piston peak national forest.

You could argue that riding around recreational vehicles and racing in the wilderness is very much in touch with todays concept of “frontier” , especially for those who live in or around a city and don’t have access to land.

Big thunder mountain will also look more natural within the backdrop of a national forest.

 

[el_super]

Why? There are popular attractions like TBA and Big thunder, they just updated the country bears and it's not like anyone was complaining about the rivers of America or Tom Sawyer Island before, well and least not a substantial amount of people were.

Things get old and tired and need to be replaced. That's just life. People weren't complaining about it because they didn't care about it at all.

 

[Starship824]

It’s supposed to be a part of a reimagined frontier land as a whole. My best guess is the old time western feel will be replaced with a more modern aesthetic look of how we view the frontier (think Colorado mountain resort town).

The concept art is based off the animated film planes…the whole concept is about piston peak national forest.

You could argue that riding around recreational vehicles and racing in the wilderness is very much in touch with todays concept of “frontier” , especially for those who live in or around a city and don’t have access to land.

Big thunder mountain will also look more natural within the backdrop of a national forest.

Yes, but then it shouldn't be called frontier land. If you're going to "reimagine" it just call it something else. There's no reason to call it frontier land when that's not what it is anymore. Cars is literally the end of the frontier.