News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

Quietmouse

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about too? This is at least 5 years away. Probably longer. And still uncertain.

Epic is opening next year.

And their point wasnt that mk loses out. It was the other 3 parks and the hotels. Construction walls up in HS, MK and AK aint goint to help the problem either. Wdw is going to be losing lots of money for the next couple of years.

what is epic universe doing so radically different that’s not currently found in island of adventure ?

Coasters? - check

More Harry Potter ? - check

Height requirements galore ? - check

The only thing that raises my interest about epic is the horror themed universe and Nintendo land.


But undeniably dark universe will probably be designed for more older teens, and Nintendo land will probably take a phase 2 expansion to really get the ball rolling. The mario kart ride they have out now is okay, and I’m sure the donkey Kong ride will be fun.

But they really should remember that Nintendo is an ip that caters to kids as young as 3. They should have really considered making that section of the park more accessible with more attractions that contain no height requirements. A few dark rides/boat ride would have been amazing for Nintendo land.

Again, I’m very much in the boat that universals has something major on their hands with being able to use the Nintendo ip. It’s an ip that’s bigger than Harry Potter and is a huge threat to Disney if universal steers the right direction with the ip.

Also, I heard that universal has rights to use Pokémon now as well. Again, absolutely massive.

I think if Disney has anything to worry about is less to do with epic as a whole and more to do with universal ability to use Harry Potter, Nintendo and Pokémon all in the same theme park. That alone are 3 ips that are collectively worth hundreds of billions in value.
 

celluloid

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I would argue that it’s just Disney adding and diversifying their attraction portfolio. Among those coasters you listed they have definitely also added a fair share of non coaster attractions.

That said even cosmic rewind is only a 42 inch height requirement. That’s the average height of a 5 year old. Slinky is 38 inches.

These are coasters that are still family friendly by design and doesn’t necessarily outcast kids from having to sit outside the que because they don’t meet the requirements.
Besides Starfall Racers, EPIC will have comparable height requirements.
DHS and EPCOT is is very similar situation. Those and DAK will take the biggest hits.
 

Disney Analyst

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what is epic universe doing so radically different that’s not currently found in island of adventure ?

Coasters? - check

More Harry Potter ? - check

Height requirements galore ? - check

The only thing that raises my interest about epic is the horror themed universe and Nintendo land.


But undeniably dark universe will probably be designed for more older teens, and Nintendo land will probably take a phase 2 expansion to really get the ball rolling. The mario kart ride they have out now is okay, and I’m sure the donkey Kong ride will be fun.

But they really should remember that Nintendo is an ip that caters to kids as young as 3. They should have really considered making that section of the park more accessible with more attractions that contain no height requirements. A few dark rides/boat ride would have been amazing for Nintendo land.

Again, I’m very much in the boat that universals has something major on their hands with being able to use the Nintendo ip. It’s an ip that’s bigger than Harry Potter and is a huge threat to Disney if universal steers the right direction with the ip.

Also, I heard that universal has rights to use Pokémon now as well. Again, absolutely massive.

I think if Disney has anything to worry about is less to do with epic as a whole and more to do with universal ability to use Harry Potter, Nintendo and Pokémon all in the same theme park. That alone are 3 ips that are collectively worth hundreds of billions in value.

Epic will be super fun in the summer season when the majority of the park shuts down every day due to weather 😍
 

Nevermore525

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Epic will be super fun in the summer season when the majority of the park shuts down every day due to weather 😍
I’m excited for when there are days where corporations have possibly rented out individual lands since the only way to access them is through each portal.

Also excited for any bottlenecking in all of those portals since unless I’m mistaken those are the only way in or out of areas.
 

Nevermore525

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As far as the loss of ROA/TSI, bummed at the loss of the visuals and ambiance.

At the same time looking forward to having a new area that’s accessible in the evening while avoiding the Hub during fireworks. Just having land space that will be available for more hours of the day to explore is a benefit.

The frontier area they showed for Cars can work, but they have to actually invest to do it right. We’ll see on that one.
 

SamusAranX

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You are also a brand new member - which is a bit suspicious. Quite a few members joined to support this project.

That analogy really doesn’t work - more along the lines of you want steak and are upset that the kitchen wastes time and space on a vegetarian dish cause steak is all they should serve in your opinion.


When done properly yes. California is a huge state. Dollywood celebrates the Smoky Mountains and the heritage of the area.
The irony is that Iger, of all people, recognized DCA was a brand withdrawal and ponied up to make a cohesive, awesome park that just needed a bit more TLC for attraction lineup. Then they went off the rails
 

rd805

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I’m excited for when there are days where corporations have possibly rented out individual lands since the only way to access them is through each portal.

Also excited for any bottlenecking in all of those portals since unless I’m mistaken those are the only way in or out of areas.

They are building a conference center -- it's the first immediate add-on to the park.

There are separate exits.

Feel free to delete your post now.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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The irony is that Iger, of all people, recognized DCA was a brand withdrawal and ponied up to make a cohesive, awesome park that just needed a bit more TLC for attraction lineup. Then they went off the rails
They got so close!!! If they hadn’t rethemed tower, kept shows in the Hyperion and properly rethemed the backlot area - they could be knocking it out with a great consistent theme.
 

SamusAranX

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Also I think it should be known that IP for the sake of IP is not going away. However there is still a way to take popular IPs and integrate them into a properly themed ride. Check out this ChatGPT blurb with a prompt of a Cars Frontierland attraction, that fits the time era and checks the IP box:

Get ready for an adrenaline-pumping ride with "Wagon Wheels to Turbo Thrills," where Disney’s Cars characters take you on an unforgettable journey through Frontierland! Join Lightning McQueen, Mater, and their friends as they drive you back in time to the 19th century to learn about their wagon ancestors. Your modern car transforms into a classic horse-drawn wagon, and you’ll race alongside the Cars gang through rugged mountain trails and across rickety wooden bridges. Feel the thrill of frontier adventure as you navigate treacherous terrain with a blend of high-speed excitement and old-time charm. Experience the fusion of Disney’s beloved Cars characters and the raw excitement of historic wagon races in this thrilling fusion of past and present!”

It boggles my mind that Imagineering is this creatively bankrupt, and MK may be altered beyond repair. You can’t unring the bell.

But AI and I can come up with a better, cohesive fit in 5 minutes.
 

Nevermore525

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They are building a conference center -- it's the first immediate add-on to the park.

There are separate exits.

Feel free to delete your post now.
The existence of a conference center doesn’t take away the potential of corporate rentals of individual lands. The portals make it easier to close off lands to guests.
 
The more I think about this project and compare to monsters, I don’t really think it’s a true cars land. Monsters to me is more of a true mini land while this seems more to me like cars attractions in whatever the new Frontierland is. Only thing that gets me is piston mountain top. I really hope they go more natural look. Hopefully that’s one of the concept art to final product changes.
 

celluloid

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The more I think about this project and compare to monsters, I don’t really think it’s a true cars land. Monsters to me is more of a true mini land while this seems more to me like cars attractions in whatever the new Frontierland is. Only thing that gets me is piston mountain top. I really hope they go more natural look. Hopefully that’s one of the concept art to final product changes.

It will have two attractions, at least one dining establishment, quick kiosks and gift shops and carts themed together in an environment.

It is a botique land perhaps. But a land in any theme park sense of the word.
Monsters is sort of the same situation, just a little bigger if the interactive indoor playground gets built.
 
I think the key to making this Cars area fit into the Frontierland theme is to have some tall a** trees, big a** rocks, and cool a** waterfalls. I don't know how feasible that will be when it opens, and it may take some years before the trees grow into it but that will help make it feel like a true frontier.
 

celluloid

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I think the key to making this Cars area fit into the Frontierland theme is to have some tall a** trees, big a** rocks, and cool a** waterfalls. I don't know how feasible that will be when it opens, and it may take some years before the trees grow into it but that will help make it feel like a true frontier.

I don't think they are in the budget of three of explicative sized nature formations for this thing with everything else going on.
 
It will have two attractions, at least one dining establishment, quick kiosks and gift shops and carts themed together in an environment.

It is a botique land perhaps. But a land in any theme park sense of the word.
Monsters is sort of the same situation, just a little bigger if the interactive indoor playground gets built.
Very fair. I guess when I think of separate lands I also think of them hiding it from other parts of the park (I.e building odd shaped chimney in DL fantasyland to hide BTM peaks or elaborate transition areas to make it known your going from one place to another ). All of those attractions and shops are made to fit with what surrounds it. There is no transition tunnel or walkway like with SWGE. It’s supposed to flow together as if it were all built together.

I acknowledge it’s up to them to invest and do it right which time will tell.
 

Disney Analyst

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Majority? Not really. Still far more indoor things than outdoor things.

Nintendo:

Yoshi will close
Donkey will close

Monsters:

Coaster will close

Dragon:

Coaster will close
Boat ride will close
Flat ride will close

Celestial Park:

Coaster will close

The only land that will not be impacted is Harry Potter. All other lands will be impacted. Probably the worst of which is Dragon.
 

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