News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Any potential benefit would be very slim with a huge list of downsides.

If it's truly "off-road" and not paved then the constant wear and tear of the vehicles would require insane maintenance to ensure a suitable and safe surface, especially considering the continuous Florida rain.

If it's fake "off-road" then there are zero benefits to making it autonomous and non-guided.

Just to be clear, I know it won't be running on true "off-road" dirt paths, that would be a maintenance nightmare. It would have to be a hard surface made to look like dirt.
 

GenChi

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For anyone wondering why they went this route instead of bringing Radiator Spring's the town, Cars Land along with it, do any of you think it's because it may be odd standing in the land and then you hear the ship and the railroad chiming and honking from not so far by away... or wouldn't we care? Does this "frontier wilderness expedition makes it fit that the noise will make it well this makes superb sense."...

The main reason is they want each domestic resort to start having exclusive offerings so that people are encouraged to visit both resorts across the country. If they are dipping into an IP twice for each resort, they'll want each ride experience to be different. You can see also with the presentations for Indiana Jones, Avatar, etc they really emphasized different theming or storyline or systems so that it's an entirely different ride and experience. The same here for Cars in a different setting and with a different ride system. That's so people just don't say they been to it already, if you're fans of these properties you're encouraged to head to the other resort as well to see something new

So at least under this leadership, if a ride is announced for California or Florida it will not be ported over to the other park (Tiana being the one exception due to unique circumstances), if the IP is brought over it'll be different. They'd be fine porting from Paris to Florida but not California to Florida
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
The main reason is they want each domestic resort to start having exclusive offerings so that people are encouraged to visit both resorts across the country. If they are dipping into an IP twice for each resort, they'll want each ride experience to be different. You can see also with the presentations for Indiana Jones, Avatar, etc they really emphasized different theming or storyline or systems so that it's an entirely different ride and experience. The same here for Cars in a different setting and with a different ride system. That's so people just don't say they been to it already, if you're fans of these properties you're encouraged to head to the other resort as well to see something new

So at least under this leadership, if a ride is announced for California or Florida it will not be ported over to the other park (Tiana being the one exception due to unique circumstances), if the IP is brought over it'll be different. They'd be fine porting from Paris to Florida but not California to Florida
I also wonder if they’ve come to the realization - after building multiple clones of rides, sometimes at the same time - the variable headaches aren’t worth the supposed cost savings (which gets eaten up). Can’t imagine the ROTR or TBA buildouts were relatively cost friendly, given the delivery and operational problems at the outset.
 

KDM31091

Well-Known Member
I am hearing the Rivers are likely to shrink or disappear for this. Which is sad. Yes the E ticket hyped up attractions are important, but so are the charming, relaxing attractions that add atmosphere. And they are paving over a classic river/riverboat area for another rush rush rush congested area with people packed like sardines. They’re stripping the charm from the park.
 

lentesta

Premium Member
I am 100% fine with Rivers of America going away for Cars Land:
  • Tom Sawyer Island and the Mark Twain Riverboat still exist in Disneyland
  • There's no clear "how to improve these" plan with those two attractions
  • Haunted Mansion's going to be the entrance to Villains Land anyway
  • It allows Disney to drop the Liberty Square concept for something else
That means Hall of Presidents goes away too. And that's also okay. It's the lowest-rated attraction in Walt Disney World for many age groups. It's politically charged. There's no path forward for the attraction as it is.

That said, if they wanted to do The Muppets American History show, I would love that.
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
I am 100% fine with Rivers of America going away for Cars Land:
  • Tom Sawyer Island and the Mark Twain Riverboat still exist in Disneyland
  • There's no clear "how to improve these" plan with those two attractions
  • Haunted Mansion's going to be the entrance to Villains Land anyway
  • It allows Disney to drop the Liberty Square concept for something else
That means Hall of Presidents goes away too. And that's also okay. It's the lowest-rated attraction in Walt Disney World for many age groups. It's politically charged. There's no path forward for the attraction as it is.

That said, if they wanted to do The Muppets American History show, I would love that.

This all sounds particularly terrible to me. Especially losing HoP and Liberty Square. I love that you have connections, but I am really hoping you are completely wrong in all of this.
 

JD80

Well-Known Member
I love the Hall of Presidents.
I haven't been since 2017.
🤷‍♂️

I just don't seen how they get away from Liberty Square unless they just expand the "haunted village" where the transition starts in the current area and matches the design elements as you go in to Villains Land.

I can also see some wooded areas where the river is now so you can transition from haunted forest to "western/mountain" regions like in the northwest.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
That’s sure looks like a dulled down version of RSR…which was the first thing to pop into my mind.

I’m down with it if they put it over the speedway
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Frontierland has a bit of a "Celebrating Opression" tinge about it. Replacing with IP is more inclusive.

Episode 7 Ugh GIF by The Bachelor
 

spresso81

Well-Known Member
I am suprised people are okay if ROA goes away. Most good theme parks in the world have some sort of water for kinetic movement or environment. EPCOT and AK both do. HS not having anything beyond Echo Lake has received negative feedback over time. Tokyo and Paris both have ROA.

Also, MK has room to expand while keeping ROA. Best case would be the beyond BTM footprint for this plan. A true northern expansion will also spread-out crowds which is really needed.

As for Liberty Square going away, aside from political reasons I just do not understand why this is needed. It serves as a perfect transition. Also, the HM will serve as a good transition to Villian's land and not be a good fit for Villian's land.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Cars, probably more than any other IP, is a classic example of "normal people in the real world love it but Disney hardos think it's beneath their contempt."
I think the opposite…they think it’s sure fire meat for the poors and the appeal is not increasing.

The first movie was excellent…everything after has been really cheap and crappy

Probably the biggest example of lack of lasseter
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I am suprised people are okay if ROA goes away. Most good theme parks in the world have some sort of water for kinetic movement or environment. EPCOT and AK both do. HS not having anything beyond Echo Lake has received negative feedback over time. Tokyo and Paris both have ROA.

Also, MK has room to expand while keeping ROA. Best case would be the beyond BTM footprint for this plan. The true norther expansion will also spread-out crowds which is really needed.

As for Liberty Square going away, aside from political reasons I just do not understand why this is needed. It serves as a perfect transition. Also, the HM will serve as a good transition to Villan's land and not be a good fit for Villan's land.
It’s not a good look after they filled in alot of the hub for pointless fireworks space and Didn’t add much water in fantasyland

Gonna be alot of concrete if they’re not careful
 

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