News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[lazyboy97o]

Rocket jet was the spinning rocket ride that was above the peoplemover station, phantom boats were a boat by the subs and autopia. Pizza planet used to be Mission to mars.

Phantom Boats were replaced by the Submarine Voyage. Motor Boat Cruise is the nearby boat attraction that survived until the 90s.

 

[eddie104]

While I wasn’t very excited for this announcement I’m willing to settle for the capacity boost and Cars representation at WDW.

Also not a huge fan of the concept art as it looks a little too cartoony for my liking.

 

[James Alucobond]

they should get rid of buzz lightyear and repurpose that and the monsters inc and stitch buildings for original attractions. Why does everything have to be advertising an IP? It was never like that before

It's almost a useless thought exercise at this point since Disney won't put anything new in that's not tied to IP.

 

[The Leader of the Club]

they should get rid of buzz lightyear and repurpose that and the monsters inc and stitch buildings for original attractions. Why does everything have to be advertising an IP? It was never like that before

Unfortunately, the major parks believe that most people won’t plan a trip because of a non-IP addition.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Any potential benefit would be very slim with a huge list of downsides.

If it's truly "off-road" and not paved then the constant wear and tear of the vehicles would require insane maintenance to ensure a suitable and safe surface, especially considering the continuous Florida rain.

If it's fake "off-road" then there are zero benefits to making it autonomous and non-guided.

It wouldn’t be truly off road. It would be a defined route on a scenic and sculpted path like Kilimanjaro Safaris. Not would it be truly autonomous, it would be following a defined path even if there are multiple seeming options.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Rocket jet was the spinning rocket ride that was above the peoplemover station, phantom boats were a boat by the subs and autopia. Pizza planet used to be Mission to mars.

Rocket jet was replaced with the decorative satellite thing - did it ever move? I guess it might me broken.

The boat dock is a sitting area - not rotting.

Magic Eye is the equivalent of stitch - should be used but nobody realizes it’s there.

A pizza restaurant is a restaurant - and is popular with guests.

So from that list that leaves PeopleMover as the main issue and carousel of progress being unfortunate.

 

[lazyboy97o]

For example. The icon for Disneyland park, Sleeping Beauty castle. Chosen for advertisement purposes, opened 4 years before the movie even came out. Disney has been using the parks as an advertising/synergy/merchandising machine since their inception.

This is just a complete and total distortion of what actually occurred. Disneyland was always going to have a castle and it had nothing to do with any one specific movie. The Sleeping Beauty Castle name was a very, very late decision. So late that Fantasyland Castle was still publicly used at times even after opening.

 

[doctornick]

Doesn’t DL put movie previews in Magic Eye? I thought that was being done with some regularity

 

[lazyboy97o]

The boat dock is a sitting area - not rotting.

There’s an entire ride path beyond the dock

 

[MagicHappens1971]

This is just a complete and total distortion of what actually occurred. Disneyland was always going to have a castle and it had nothing to do with any one specific movie. The Sleeping Beauty Castle name was a very, very late decision. So late that Fantasyland Castle was still publicly used at times even after opening.

I didn’t know this so I do apologize for equating Sleeping Beauty castle to this.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

Phantom Boats were replaced by the Submarine Voyage. Motor Boat Cruise is the nearby boat attraction that survived until the 90s.

Thanks my mistake!

Rocket jet was replaced with the decorative satellite thing - did it ever move? I guess it might me broken.

The boat dock is a sitting area - not rotting.

Magic Eye is the equivalent of stitch - should be used but nobody realizes it’s there.

A pizza restaurant is a restaurant - and is popular with guests.

So from that list that leaves PeopleMover as the main issue and carousel of progress being unfortunate.

I mean it’s a lot worse shape than MKs is in

 

[SplashJacket]

It wouldn’t be truly off road. It would be a defined route on a scenic and sculpted path like Kilimanjaro Safaris. Not would it be truly autonomous, it would be following a defined path even if there are multiple seeming options.

I understand and appreciate that, but unless it goes insanely slow, if some error occurs, on every other ride system, the solution is to cease motion.

If a ride vehicle has a fault while going 50 miles per hour, that fault means it can't continue the existing path/the autonomous system doesn't trust the input/output relationship. On a tracked system, where velocity can only be added/removed, removing velocity at a fault is not an issue, but with this, removing velocity isn't enough when you don't know where you're going.

 

[No Name]

The negative comments toward this here are bizarre and disappointing. People will likely love this and it’ll fit in the back of Frontierland quite well. Then again I shouldn’t exactly expect an online forum in 2024 to reflect the average park visitor.

 

[James Alucobond]

The negative comments toward this here are bizarre and disappointing. People will likely love this and it’ll fit in the back of Frontierland quite well. Then again I shouldn’t exactly expect an online forum in 2024 to reflect the average park visitor.

I don't think it's bizarre for people to at least be a bit concerned about how this land will be situated since it is potentially so temporally incongruous with everything else in Liberty Square and Frontierland. It's possible they'll pull the sightlines off decently, but without further information, a bit of hand-wringing is not unwarranted.

 

[fgmnt]

The way they described the second cars attraction makes me think Tomorrowland Speedway isn't long for this world. There is also Twitter talk/speculation of Laugh Floor moving to DHS which would then leave a lot of holes in Tomorrowland. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Don't want to jump too far off topic but the way way overly optimistic take is that 2026 D23 announces a co-redevelopment of the domestic Tomorrowlands as the last announcement.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

they should get rid of buzz lightyear and repurpose that and the monsters inc and stitch buildings for original attractions. Why does everything have to be advertising an IP? It was never like that before

I agree, but at least in Florida, the priority seems to be giving people what they expect when they hear “Disney”- brands they already know.

Personally I’d want to bring back Time Keeper and Alien Encounter for the Monsters and Stitch locations, respectively. Then you can have Buzz be an evergreen IP and somewhere add a sit down restaurant.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I understand and appreciate that, but unless it goes insanely slow, if some error occurs, on every other ride system, the solution is to cease motion.

If a ride vehicle has a fault while going 50 miles per hour, that fault means it can't continue the existing path/the autonomous system doesn't trust the input/output relationship. On a tracked system, where velocity can only be added/removed, removing velocity at a fault is not an issue, but with this, removing velocity isn't enough when you don't know where you're going.

Radiator Springs Racers doesn’t even hit 50.

A big reason for the warehouse look of true trackless rides is to provide space for the ride vehicles if/when they go off their designated course.

 

[fgmnt]

I don't think it's bizarre for people to at least be a bit concerned about how this land will be situated since it is potentially so temporally incongruous with everything else in Liberty Square and Frontierland. It's possible they'll pull the sightlines off decently, but without further information, a bit of hand-wringing is not unwarranted.

I think the temporal argument is pretty goofy outside of Liberty Square.

The other major lands have little to no fixed temporal link. Fantasyland is a center for timeless, largely Eurocentric fairy tales between the late midieval up to Peter Pan and Winnie the Pooh of mid 20th century England. Tomorrowland has lead different lives of vague futures and an alien spaceport. Adventureland has no real fixed temporal link, as it's major attractions are vaguely 17-18th and 19-20th century.

Frontierland opened as a place to retell stories of the imagined American West at the turn of the century. I don't think the general public is going to crave those stories much anymore, and Disney seems to agree as BTM was the only major attraction opened in Frontierland that meets that mark. You can deliver a sense of exploration of the American West from behind the windshield of a car though. That's a shared American experience. I think it would be reckless to kill off RoA to deliver this, and you can be skeptical that they will deliver this feeling, but it fits a lot better here than CBMJ and TBA.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

There’s an entire ride path beyond the dock

You mean in the water? Visually that’s just a duck pond now.

I mean it’s a lot worse shape than MKs is in

Eh. I’ve been to both within a year. It’s still a toss up to me. I can’t argue which is better or worse. The peoplemover track probably tips the scale but Tomorrowland terrace sitting unused and empty (except for cupcakes) is equally unforgiving.

Don't want to jump too far off topic but the way way overly optimistic take is that 2026 D23 announces a co-redevelopment of the domestic Tomorrowlands as the last announcement.

At least by then Josh will be CEO - we may get a little more of what we want. I’m not saying Josh is the savior, but there is at least hope.

 

[SplashJacket]

Radiator Springs Racers doesn’t even hit 50.

A big reason for the warehouse look of true trackless rides is to provide space for the ride vehicles if/when they go off their designated course.

Exactly, so if that's needed for this, wouldn't the drawbacks be far larger than any potential benefits?