Gringrinngghost
Well-Known Member
you are confusing Tron with Cars....the cars announcement got no reaction.
you are confusing Tron with Cars....the cars announcement got no reaction.
It got plenty of reaction. Positive initial reaction then the realization of where it was going set in and the crowd turned. It was a weird low point for sure. Between the "Nooooo!" scream and then the hushing of the crowd as Josh struggled to hype it up (wondering now if even he is against it) it was clearly a struggle for all. That said, I'd be shocked if they walk this back.
They'll either press forward or scale the attraction down but I don't anticipate a reversal. I don't doubt they're being bombarded with feedback.
I still say there are decent odds that part of this area becomes New Orleans Square or similar. That would have quite a few "pros" in its favor:
- While not as thematically perfect as Rivers, would retain theming much more than cartoon cars (While still allowing them to fill in rivers, which I think people have said are expensive or in need of repairs? And would free up more land for use.)
- Bonus opportunity to put in more food and retail under the guise of - "Fans talked - we listened. MERCH!!!"
- I think New Orleans Square is a pretty big hit at Disneyland, yes? Would be a way to sell the Tiana ride a bit better. It might be better received as part of a beloved land.
- Mardi Gras celebrations (and associated $$), which Universal has at a much larger scale than Disney.
- They can copy a fair bit of the design from Disneyland, which I assume saves cash.
My gut instinct says this is probably the direction they'll go. The biggest "con" would be that they missed an opportunity to add an area that is more boy-centric. But given the backlash, I don't think that will be a make or break factor.
Not opposed to that but I’m still down to remove ROA. So the whole argument people are making about this new land not fitting the theme definitely would not work when malificent’s castle is next to country bears.Take the cars money and spend it on more Villians. Win win! Haha
Geography.The Cars concept looks fun and cool.
I just don’t think it really belongs where they want to put it.
Whatever happened to the “blessing of size” Walt talked about?
While this is true, there is still suitable land for development in MK they could put Cars in without having to replace RoA or further degrade the thematic quality of Frontierland (what’s left of it after TBA). If DL can expand rather then replace within its paltry limits MK certainly canGeography.
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This is how I personally see the area:
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BTM is the outlier of the area. With Mansion aside, let’s look at them thematically.
Blue is the Mississippi River & East.
Green is late 1700s colonial
Red* is the stereotypical old west
*You can argue the Native encampment being in the Great Plains & not the stereotypical west. The stereotypical west being New Mexico and Arizona during the times of Billy the Kid. BTM is more akin to Monument Valley in Arizona for example.
I can see them converting Pecos Bill to Tiana's and that area can be the defacto New Orleans's Square and they could technically expand on it up to Pirates as well as adding another restaurant if they were to move the parade step off area.
Geography.
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Yeah, and the reaction of other TikTokers is not the general public. And thinking that Disney will reconsider is an act of "manifesting," which is a branch of "magical thinking."Disney Glimpses is not some sourced insider account, it's just a Twitter engagement account. Take them for what it is.
This is interesting. Outside of ROA and the plot behind Haunted Mansion, looks like much of the area we thought could be developed is marginally unsuitable. Supports why they may have went with ROA and maybe Villains takes that light green marginally suitable land to startGeography.
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This reminds my of a lot of social media speculation we were hearing about Splash Mountain too. I think it is extremely unlikely at this point as it simply doesn’t fit the WDW business model.Of course! Please find it below:
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Again, some Disney TikTok vloggers are sharing it and stating it tracks with their understanding.
I think you should start a petition and send a strongly worded emailI suspect that this entire catostrophic idea comes from a very small number of Burbank executives. I'd bet that a lot of respected people around this thing are saying that this is a horribly bad idea.
Once you destroy the river, island and riverboat?....MK is scared forever it becomes the ONLY castle park in the world that is disfigured in this way and wont have this iconic water feature.
I fear that with so much resistance to this thing that whoever is driving this destruction will use our anger as fuel to push even harder against us.
I do suspect that "spite" in Burbank is a strong motivator here with these arsonists.
The more they see we hate it,... the more it makes them want it.
Yeah, I doubt anything will end up changing and it’s all wishful thinking at the end of the day, but this feels like some of the most backlash I’ve seen over a parks decision ever. It makes me wonder what they’re thinking seeing all the negative feedback.This reminds my of a lot of social media speculation we were hearing about Splash Mountain too. I think it is extremely unlikely at this point as it simply doesn’t fit the WDW business model.
At best there may be a consideration of locating Monsters to animation, retaining HOP, and keeping Liberty Belle as a docked bar and restaurant tied to Tiana. But that seems like best case scenario.
I don’t doubt they’re surprised by the reaction, but I also think they’re going to charge forward perhaps at an even faster pace to “close the book on this” given permits are being filed. At Burbank they don’t think nostalgia is a core component of their Florida business model.Yeah, I doubt anything will end up changing and it’s all wishful thinking at the end of the day, but this feels like some of the most backlash I’ve seen over a parks decision ever. It makes me wonder what they’re thinking seeing all the negative feedback.
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