News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

TrainsOfDisney

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Though Villains was still a nice surprise, their choosing of words to announce it left us Anaheim fans disappointed again.
Florida too…. Tomorrowland needs more attention than frontier right now.
Yea, “not a museum” and all, but no less disturbing for an old Disney fan, like myself.
At this point I’d argue Disneyland and Magic Kingdom should become partial museums - updates and refreshes are fine but moving towards a historical society could be a really good thing.

Since both properties have the blessing of size now - there’s no negative at all.
 

Brer Panther

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and they get long lines cause they’re all great, but you have management that wants IP and customers who complain about certain IP not being in parks. That’s their mindset with new additions- all those are nearly 20+ years old at LEAST.
I'm sure there was an IP-based attraction that was a failure despite being IP-based. Stitch's Great Escape?
 

danlb_2000

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In my professional life, I work with autonomous vehicles (not trucks and cars) and in order to have the safety and precision to travel on these things outdoors is very very good safety rated 3d cameras along side good LiDAR Is it possible? Sure thing, you mostly need defined spaces and shapes of terrain.

Would it be reliable in different weather? Bright sun? Wet? Humid? Lol no.

Dynamic Attractions seems to think it's viable.
 

pwnbeaver

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Concept art looks really fun, and the rock work will likely be gorgeous. It will be good.

They did accelerate something I thought would take another ten years or so. My thoughts on Tiana's last year can be easily copy and pasted for this:

I think the worrying about how it fits into the concept of Frontierland is something that will likely not matter once enough years have passed. This seems like the beginning of the end of "Frontierland" as it is, which is a land that does not match the understanding of history and the Westward expansion that we will likely continue to have going forward. The genie will not exactly be put back in the bottle here.

They should pull the band aid off. I just came back from Tokyo, and "Westernland" is already a better name for what the concept is at this point. I think the main mistake Disney is making here is not having a unified theme and name ready to go, rather than just slowly eroding the old Frontierland theme. What this will lead to is renaming the place "Adventure Frontier" or "Wilderness Dreams" or "Entrance to Villainsland: Heroes Rising" in ten years.

Based on the way he operated, I bet if Walt had lived another ten years he would have completed rethemed or replaced one of the major Disneyland lands. I think Frontierland is the only one that isn't universal or relevant enough to stick around forever.
 

SpectreJordan

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Honestly, I'm down for this idea so far.

I'm very glad that it's not just a port of Radiator Springs. I like the story of this being a unique location that's not from the movies. You could imagine this is something from the Cars universe or just an area of Frontierland that happens to have Cars in it. This area will be especially good if the Cars characters are largely left in the rides outside of a meet & greet.
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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I'm sure there was an IP-based attraction that was a failure despite being IP-based. Stitch's Great Escape?
Well yeah, IP doesn’t guarantee popularity. But it’s sadly the priority now. The Cars ride could work amazing if it were wagons instead of race cars, but IP demands it. If this were a project from 30 years ago it wouldn’t have any IP at all.
 

TheRealSkull

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Florida too…. Tomorrowland needs more attention than frontier right now.

At this point I’d argue Disneyland and Magic Kingdom should become partial museums - updates and refreshes are fine but moving towards a historical society could be a really good thing.

Since both properties have the blessing of size now - there’s no negative at all.
What Florida's Tomorrowland needs isn't an aesthetic overhaul, but it just needs a new attraction or two and maybe an upgrade to Space Mountain, plus something else to make Tomorrowland Speedway more relevant.

Disneyland's however, is a mess aesthetically.

I do agree with your statement in saying Tomorrowland needs help more than Frontierland, however, this seems to be of their utmost priority right now for some reason.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
I really think this is going to end up more as a mini land attached to Frontierland rather than a total redo of the existing area. Think how the circus area interacts with Fantasyland, technically part of it but existing in its own contained thematic space.
We will see. Josh said cars is coming to “a reimagined section of Frontierland”
 

James Alucobond

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What Florida's Tomorrowland needs isn't an aesthetic overhaul, but it just needs a new attraction or two and maybe an upgrade to Space Mountain, plus something else to make Tomorrowland Speedway more relevant.

Disneyland's however, is a mess aesthetically.

I do agree with your statement in saying Tomorrowland needs help more than Frontierland, however, this seems to be of their utmost priority right now for some reason.
I mean ... WDW Tomorrowland is also an aesthetic mess. Several raygun gothic props still litter the space from the 90s redo, some partially stripped back or heavily altered structural elements were just painted white rather than properly repaired or rethemed, they stopped repaving the area halfway during the latest round of work, and there are about three or four different styles for the area that are at odds with one another. Three attractions are in desperate need of replacement, one attraction sits completely empty, and one attraction needs repairs ASAP.
 

erasure fan1

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Ah, yes. Proof that IP doesn't automatically equal successful attractions.
Yea, it's completely irrelevant if an attraction is original or IP when it comes to what's going to be good or bad. Guardians doesn't make cosmic rewind good. Just like no IP didn't make body wars bad. Personally I just want a mix of both, that are placed with better thought than they've been doing in recent years.
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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Ironically, I think most of the concerns here about the Coco addition to MK revolved around the ride mechanism - doing a Soarin' style flying theater. If a boat ride like what was shown for DCA was on the table, I think it would have been warmly embraced as a MK addition.

That would of been fine with the village. I think they decided to abandon the Desert Theme 🏜 which is why Coco is out or they decided to give it to California because of the few new surprises aside Avatar and Avengers which weren't new. The whole centric focus on the BBT side is to keep it looking Frontier, more frontier so than TBA or as such say TBA is now Adventureland.. 🤔🙃
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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For anyone wondering why they went this route instead of bringing Radiator Spring's the town, Cars Land along with it, do any of you think it's because it may be odd standing in the land and then you hear the ship and the railroad chiming and honking from not so far by away... or wouldn't we care? Does this "frontier wilderness expedition makes it fit that the noise will make it well this makes superb sense."...
 

TheRealSkull

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For anyone wondering why they went this route instead of bringing Radiator Spring's the town, Cars Land along with it, do any of you think it's because it may be odd standing in the land and then you hear the ship and the railroad chiming and honking from not so far by away... or wouldn't we care? Does this "frontier wilderness expedition makes it fit that the noise will make it well this makes superb sense."...
I think people were just assuming if OG Cars Land was added, the River was close to elimination or just taken out all together, thus leaving the Liberty Belle stationary. Heck, it still scares me there is a possibility of this happening, but there really is no reason for it to happen. They have plenty of space for both Cars and Villains.
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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What Florida's Tomorrowland needs isn't an aesthetic overhaul, but it just needs a new attraction or two and maybe an upgrade to Space Mountain, plus something else to make Tomorrowland Speedway more relevant.

Disneyland's however, is a mess aesthetically.

I do agree with your statement in saying Tomorrowland needs help more than Frontierland, however, this seems to be of their utmost priority right now for some reason.
Best way to fix MK’s Tomorrowland imo:
  • Repaint everything with a 60s inspired color palette- white with red and blue accents
  • Redo signage and such to reflect this
  • Add a sit down restaurant- maybe a space jazz lounge with Sonny Eclispe?
  • Retrack Space Mountain and update effects
  • Replace MILF and SGE with new attractions, maybe BLSRS with Wreck it Ralph
Definitely a lot but it’ll make it last for a long time
 

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