News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[SplashJacket]

This is the only thing in the presentation I’m not really excited about. Even in a vacuum, had they done this land at Hollywood Studios, this would be the least exciting announcement to me (below Coco, below Avengers, below Monsters Inc, etc.) but it doesn’t carry the least expense.

I really hope it’s more towards the back end of RoA and not visible from Haunted Mansion, but I know it likely will be.

The one major miss in a D23 that pretty much gave us what we wanted.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Except Tiana's takes place in the 1920s and Big Thunder Mountain before that.

I understand how they want to change Frontierland, but the end result will still be a mix of unrelated ideas whose only commonality are that they are set somewhere in the USA (not even the west).

This is perhaps subjective, but the fact Tiana is still set a century ago and all visible references to that period emerge once you pass under the railway tracks doesn't fundamentally alter the feel of the attractions around it. At the very least, the land remains visibly anchored in a rustic past and, cognitively, it is not that hard to process walking from the 19th to the early-20th century any more than it is to walk between geographical regions within a single land.

At least for me, putting something so contemporary as off-road vehicles or racing cars into the land does completely shift the tone because there's no way of blurring times and places between that experience and the 19th or even early-20th century in a way that makes any cognitive sense.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

Apparently this announcement caused crickets in the audience and probably was extremely awkward for Disney. People said they were really trying to rush the Cars announcements after it.

It wasn't a smart idea to announce this before Villains. I don't know why they didn't do it side by side like with Avatar and Coco for DCA. Didn't people forget that since Encanto was moved to another park that they would had to replace the void with something.. or is it no matter what announcements nobody trusts that 70% of them will make it alas Epcot transformation.

 

[Indy_UK]

I’m fine with these additions to MK. A lot of fans aren’t Cars fans but the kids will love this. Also a ride with a bit more of a thrill that’s not Tron would be welcome.

 

[TheRealSkull]

Except Tiana's takes place in the 1920s and Big Thunder Mountain before that.

I understand how they want to change Frontierland, but the end result will still be a mix of unrelated ideas whose only commonality are that they are set somewhere in the USA (not even the west).

Again, if you look at the Disney Parks as a whole from that perspective, then not a lot would make any sense. Think about it.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Being that it's the same manufacturer that developed Test Track... makes it seem all the more likely.

Disney hires manufacturers to build ride systems for them. The slot car system used on Test Track and Radiator Springs Racers was developed by Disney.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

This is perhaps subjective, but the fact Tiana is still set a century ago and all visible references to that period emerge once you pass under the railway tracks doesn't fundamentally alter the feel of the attractions around it. At the very least, the land remains visibly anchored in a rustic past and, cognitively, it is not that hard to process walking from the 19th to the early-20th century any more than it is to walk between geographical regions within a single land.

At least for me, putting something so contemporary as off-road vehicles or racing cars into the land does completely shift the tone because there's no way of blurring times and places between that experience and the 19th or even early-20th century in a way that makes any cognitive sense.

The tone has shifted away from a period in time to a celebration of the wilderness, ode to the great outdoors.

Imagine if they relocated the Wilderness Explorers here!?

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Disney hires manufacturers to build ride systems for them. The slot car system used on Test Track and Radiator Springs Racers was developed by Disney.

Semantics. Thank you for the clarification!?

 

[Brer Panther]

Although maybe we should just consider ourselves lucky this wasn't brought to Animal Kingdom under the guise of wilderness and focus on American animals...

I could actually picture them doing that. I'll take Cars in Frontierland over that easily.

I've always opposed Cars in Frontierland, regardless of the form. I'd have been more receptive of a clone of the existing DCA variant over in Hollywood Studios. Provided it included the town and was built on an unused plot of land and didn't replace anything of importance.

I agree, but it could be worse. At least it's not another Toy Story ride. Remember THOSE rumors?

They don’t want original stuff.

Really? Non-IP attractions like Soarin', Test Track, Kilimanjaro Safaris, Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, and Expedition Everest still get long lines, don't they?

So what happens to the Liberty Belle? Scrapped?

Between this and the removal of the riverboat from Tiana's Bayou Adventure, riverboats must not be allowed in the Magic Kingdom anymore.

The camp that detests the googly-eyed Cars ruining their Frontierland.. Just curious, How would you feel about the Country Bears racing through the mountainside?

You joke, but a Country Bears dark ride would be really cool.

 

[lazyboy97o]

This is perhaps subjective, but the fact Tiana is still set a century ago and all visible references to that period emerge once you pass under the railway tracks doesn't fundamentally alter the feel of the attractions around it. At the very least, the land remains visibly anchored in a rustic past and, cognitively, it is not that hard to process walking from the 19th to the early-20th century any more than it is to walk between geographical regions within a single land.

At least for me, putting something so contemporary as off-road vehicles or racing cars into the land does completely shift the tone because there's no way of blurring times and places between that experience and the 19th or even early-20th century in a way that makes any cognitive sense.

Buffalo Bill Cody died in 1919. Annie Oakley died in 1926. Wyatt Earp died in 1929. I’m a bit more forgiving of the 1920s in Frontierland as people who helped defined that era lived to see that world.

The 1920s also aren’t new to Frontierland, see Country Bear Hall.

 

[Sectorkeeper71]

From what I understand, not really no. Existing trackless rides are said to rely on extremely smooth and flat terrain without elevation. You can get a traditional busbar or slotted EMV-like system to work with elevation, but getting trackless system to work with complex slopes and such would be much more troublesome. I would also imagine having such a ride outside where weather and other environmental variables are at play would present further challenges to such a system.

I can see constant E-stops for an outside ride like that because a squirrel ran across the track or a branch fell. Sounds like an ops nightmare tbh

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

You joke, but a Country Bears dark ride would be really cool.

I don'ta actually. It was blusky'd a LONG time ago. I agree it would be cool. Dare say a better fit.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Really? Non-IP attractions like Soarin', Test Track, Kilimanjaro Safaris, Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, and Expedition Everest still get long lines, don't they?

and they get long lines cause they’re all great, but you have management that wants IP and customers who complain about certain IP not being in parks. That’s their mindset with new additions- all those are nearly 20+ years old at LEAST.

The camp that detests the googly-eyed Cars ruining their Frontierland.. Just curious, How would you feel about the Country Bears racing through the mountainside?

I’d be all for it, assuming they were driving either whimsical vehicles like in the scrapped Critter Country 500, or vintage cars like those rides you see in smaller parks where you drive old 1900s cars through wilderness.

 

[TheRealSkull]

It wasn't a smart idea to announce this before Villains. I don't know why they didn't do it side by side like with Avatar and Coco for DCA. Didn't people forget that since Encanto was moved to another park that they would had to replace the void with something.. or is it no matter what announcements nobody trusts that 70% of them will make it alas Epcot transformation.

They wanted that last-surprise announcement at the end. Here is another reason they should have announced it alongside Cars: even though Magic Mirror was talking to Josh, when he said the word "tommorow" and the phrase "a land is twisted and broken," I immediately thought it was an announcement about Tomorrowland. I think audience members did too, because the place erupted when that phrase was said. Though Villains was still a nice surprise, their choosing of words to announce it left us Anaheim fans disappointed again.

 

[djkidkaz]

I love this and it’s the thing I’m most excited for that was announced. I think it looks amazing and will make a great addition to the park.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

The camp that detests the googly-eyed Cars ruining their Frontierland.. Just curious, How would you feel about the Country Bears racing through the mountainside?

"You'll Have a "Howdy-Doo Time" you'd be on that thing for hours stuck with Adam The Woo!"""

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

They wanted that last-surprise announcement at the end. Here is another reason they should have announced it alongside Cars: even though Magic Mirror was talking to Josh, when he said the word "tommorow" and the phrase "a land is twisted and broken," I immediately thought it was an announcement about Tomorrowland. I think audience members did too, because the place erupted when that phrase was said. Though Villains was still a nice surprise, their choosing of words to announce it left us Anaheim fans disappointed again.

Wow! That was way worse for them than actually than anybody silenced and crickets over Cars when they know deep down that their V land would been last.

I think that silence is due to the fact that Coco was announced moved over coast already anyone would assume that their V land may be removed the only glim of hope was DHS which I think Monstroplis was announced before Cars so that would been the last hope of change of location. See they sure know how to pull you off your ride horse.

 

[donaldtoo]

I’m looking at photos I’ve taken of BTM and it definitely looks like they’re taking out the RoA. This isn’t a shortening, this is a complete replacement.View attachment 808259View attachment 808260

Never thought I’d see something like this in my lifetime, but, then again, I never expected to live even this long anyway.
Yea, “not a museum” and all, but no less disturbing for an old Disney fan, like myself.

 

[JD80]

Could Tesla-style Full Self Driving me done here on a known course without driver intervention? Probably not yet, but that type of thing isn't far off.

In my professional life, I work with autonomous vehicles (not trucks and cars) and in order to have the safety and precision to travel on these things outdoors is very very good safety rated 3d cameras along side good LiDAR Is it possible? Sure thing, you mostly need defined spaces and shapes of terrain.

Would it be reliable in different weather? Bright sun? Wet? Humid? Lol no.

 

[JD80]

Isn’t the trackless ride system pretty close to this anyway? We’re not talking about merging lanes on I-4.

The difference is an indoor area vs. an outdoor area. You think Rise is unreliable? Wait until you get water and dust covering sensor lenses.

What if this is a new Jungle Cruise/Safari ride where you have someone driving