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Captain Jack Sparrow at MNSSHP??
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jt04
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Squashing rumors and proving others!
Interesting....and to make it more so.....
Mouseplanet is claiming Entertainment at Disneyland may bring Marvel characters into their Halloween celebration this year. I think this is a GREAT idea. Now I know we were told by certain self proclaimed insiders that Marvel characters would not appear in any of the castle parks any time soon. I, however, have been saying all along that it would be sooner rather than later.
But that brings up Marvel characters at WDW. The author correctly points out that DHS has used non-traditional or non-Disney characters in that park and uses the Power Rangers as an example. Star Wars would be another example. He then repeats a false rumor that many people believe however. Namely that WDW can't use Marvel characters as long as they are used at IoA. The TRUTH is that Disney can use any Marvel characters NOT featured at IoA. So I think it is possible Marvel characters could be crashing the (halloween) party at the MK this year. Perhaps we will get lucky and they will takeover the Stitch stage.
Interesting....and to make it more so.....
Mouseplanet is claiming Entertainment at Disneyland may bring Marvel characters into their Halloween celebration this year. I think this is a GREAT idea. Now I know we were told by certain self proclaimed insiders that Marvel characters would not appear in any of the castle parks any time soon. I, however, have been saying all along that it would be sooner rather than later.
But that brings up Marvel characters at WDW. The author correctly points out that DHS has used non-traditional or non-Disney characters in that park and uses the Power Rangers as an example. Star Wars would be another example. He then repeats a false rumor that many people believe however. Namely that WDW can't use Marvel characters as long as they are used at IoA. The TRUTH is that Disney can use any Marvel characters NOT featured at IoA. So I think it is possible Marvel characters could be crashing the (halloween) party at the MK this year. Perhaps we will get lucky and they will takeover the Stitch stage.
Azerin
Active Member
That would be kewl to have him return for meet and greets... but I think he should have been out for awhile :\
Sad to hear about Tarzan and Jane but I think I had heard that before... or at least rumor of it... so while the rumor may be old I don't think I had heard that they definitely wouldn't be back. Hopefully there will be some other new characters added to replace them... the MNSSHP characters have been very static the last 4-5 years and we have basically stopped trying to go because of that... if they do start changing some stuff might be a reason to try to go next year
Thanks for the info Drew!
DisneyNut2007
Active Member
With the recent rumors of Jack Sparrow and Mowgli joining this year's MNSSHP's as meet-and-greet characters, it sounds like they're finally going ahead with making some much-needed changes to the parties' offerings.
I didn't attend them at all last year 1) because they didn't offer anything new in terms of character appearances and 2) because of the economy.
Let's hope that we'll get quite a few more new and different meet-and-greet characters at this year's parties. I really hope they'll bring the Country Bears, the Brers, Clarabelle & Horace, Clara Cluck, Louis the Alligator, Dr. Facilier, Hades, the Big Bad Wolf, some of the other more secondary villains and the Robin Hood gang, among others, out for sets during the parties.
However, it is kinda sad that the Tarzan characters won't be returning to MNSSHP this year, but I bet they'll be back again in the future.
I didn't attend them at all last year 1) because they didn't offer anything new in terms of character appearances and 2) because of the economy.
Let's hope that we'll get quite a few more new and different meet-and-greet characters at this year's parties. I really hope they'll bring the Country Bears, the Brers, Clarabelle & Horace, Clara Cluck, Louis the Alligator, Dr. Facilier, Hades, the Big Bad Wolf, some of the other more secondary villains and the Robin Hood gang, among others, out for sets during the parties.
However, it is kinda sad that the Tarzan characters won't be returning to MNSSHP this year, but I bet they'll be back again in the future.
JustInTime
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I am sure it's hard to keep up the M&G's for Jack, but I wish they would keep him around. I think he ads so much to Adventureland when he is wandering around. I am sure they will bring him back even more when the new movie comes out.
lebeau
Well-Known Member
Interesting....and to make it more so.....
Mouseplanet is claiming Entertainment at Disneyland may bring Marvel characters into their Halloween celebration this year. I think this is a GREAT idea. Now I know we were told by certain self proclaimed insiders that Marvel characters would not appear in any of the castle parks any time soon. I, however, have been saying all along that it would be sooner rather than later.
But that brings up Marvel characters at WDW. The author correctly points out that DHS has used non-traditional or non-Disney characters in that park and uses the Power Rangers as an example. Star Wars would be another example. He then repeats a false rumor that many people believe however. Namely that WDW can't use Marvel characters as long as they are used at IoA. The TRUTH is that Disney can use any Marvel characters NOT featured at IoA. So I think it is possible Marvel characters could be crashing the (halloween) party at the MK this year. Perhaps we will get lucky and they will takeover the Stitch stage.
Your Marvel predictions are always entertaining. I'm still waiting for Sony to give Disney back the rights to the Spider-man film franchise...
jt04
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What I sad was that they won't want to sell a Disney product in their parks. For one it will give Disney access to Universals books not just a large cut of the profits. I stand by that prediction. If Marvel is removed from IoA Sony still retains the movie rights. For now anyway.
Define "featured".
jt04
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Those characters currently featured at IoA are the only ones Universal has the rights to use at the park. I think there are 8 or 10 or so. Hulk, Spidey, etc. It is a limited number although they do have the rights to most of the favorites. Disney plans to push some of the lesser known characters and create all new characters through Marve'ls existing talent that Disney will then be free to use anywhere including WDW as I understand it.
lebeau
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That's actually a completely different prediction then the one I was referring to. Obviously, since Universal and Sony are different companies, the theme park rights held by Universal and the Spider-man film rights held by Sony are unrelated.
(Although I believe you had Uni giving up it's theme park rights shortly after HP opened. I'm waiting for that too.)
No, I'm referring to the Spider-man 4 thread where you repeatedly and emphatically claimed that Sony would relinquish their rights to the Spider-man franchise rather than re-boot it because it was too risky to spend all that money restarting the franchise. :ROFLOL: At least, I think that was your argument.
If anyone's interested in the whole thread, here's a link:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?p=3916477#post3916477
If you know anything at all about Hollywood, it's fun for a laugh.
Here's the thing. In that Spider-man thread you demonstrated that you have absolutely no understanding of how the Marvel arrangement works. You speak with authority on the subject. But you've already demonstrated you have no actual knowledge.
The truth is, no one has said with any authority whether or not Disney could use Marvel characters that are not featured at IoA in WDW. If they tried, it would certainly result in a big lawsuit. Any expert I've seen quoted on the subject has deemed it unlikely Disney would do this unless they bought back the rights.
Odds are, eventually Disney is going to wind up shelling out a lot of money to buy back rights Marvel sold in order to make some use out of their newly acquired property. That's why a lot of people believe they overpaid. The most valuable Marvel assets have already been signed away.
On the upside, you've given me one more reason to look forward to MNSSHP this year. When the Marvel characters aren't there, that's one more Marvel prediction of yours to go up in flames.
Edit: PS. Sorry to hi-jack the thread. A Jack M&G would be cool.
DisneyNut2007
Active Member
Another new MNSSHP character rumor:
According to the WDW Character Hunt site (http://sites.google.com/site/wdwcharacterhunt/), Dr. Facilier will be joining the Villians Mix & Mingle this year, possibly replacing Frollo.
According to the WDW Character Hunt site (http://sites.google.com/site/wdwcharacterhunt/), Dr. Facilier will be joining the Villians Mix & Mingle this year, possibly replacing Frollo.
jt04
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Sony did suprise me with going forward with a Spiderman 'prequel'. We will see how it all works out for them. Because from all appearences they appear to be remaking something very very similar to the 2002 version.:snore:
You do know that Disney will profit from all future Marvel licenses without doing any of the work I suppose? I was joking about them being at the MK this year but mouseplanet seems rather sure they will appear at Disneyland. A castle park last I heard. So let me be concrete in my prediction, Marvel characters will appear somewhere at WDW within a year and Uni will announce plans for the replacement of Marvel before Legoland opens next year. I get it wrong sometimes but this is a rumors board so that is inevitable.
People insisted Iger paid too much for Pixar too. Just sayin'.
Bzzzt, you understand it wrong. They can't use any of the characters, east of the Mississippi, who appear in IoA. Cutout characters on the walls, characters appearing in the restaurants, characters in the stores, characters anywhere. You're probably talking closer to 50 than you are 10; and it's all the well-known characters.
My guess is you'll see Marvel meet & greets in the Hollywood section of DCA by the time the Avengers movie hits theaters. But in WDW, not until Disney shells out the cash to buy them back.
blackthidot
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- In the Parks
- Yes
I'd love to see Marvel in the parade!
FigmentJedi
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Don't think Thor is covered in the IoA deal. He'd be great to see in the parks. Especially at Norway.
No, he's there. Just to demonstrate what they're up against as far as characters appearing at IoA, take a look at this one single photo:
In other words, anyone with any name recognition is locked up.
lebeau
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Fair enough.
For my predictions, I think the new Spider-man will be a hit. Whether or not it will be any good is another matter. If it's not, the inevitable sequel will suffer. But the first one is guaranteed a great opening weekend. And since they are keeping costs low with a new cast, that makes it as close to a sure thing as you can get.
I think most of the critics of the Pixar acquisition have been silenced. But at the time, I can see why people were uncertain. You had to wonder how long Pixar could continue their winning streak. And the projects they had in development sure didn't sound like box office winners.
I don't necessarily think Disney overpaid for Marvel. But it will be a long time before that purchase pays dividends. The number one reason for the purchase is that Disney wants to make Marvel cartoons for Disney XD. Number two is video games. Anything else is gravy. Use of the characters in the theme parks was an after-thought.
I think you're way off on your time table for Marvel characters appearing in FL. I wouldn't be surprised to see them on the west coast. And it seems very likely they will appear over seas. But I don't think there will be any change in the status quo in FL until Disney decides to buy the rights back from Universal.
To be clear: Universal will not voluntarily allow the rights to revert back to Disney. Just like Sony wasn't about to allow the Spider-man rights to revert. These rights are too valuable to just give up.
Barring some legal wrangling, Disney will have to buy back the rights from Universal. And Universal will want enough money to secure another liscense and re-theme that part of the park. So it won't be cheap.
Since Disney has more pressing matters than putting super-heroes in its existing parks, I think it will be a long, long time before Disney takes this step.
Going out on a limb, I think it'll be three-five years before the Marvel characters have any substantial presence in WDW. And I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a lot longer than that.
lebeau
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No, he's there. Just to demonstrate what they're up against as far as characters appearing at IoA, take a look at this one single photo:
In other words, anyone with any name recognition is locked up.
The freaking Inhumans are in that picture! Disney can't even use the Inhumans?!?
Well, looks like a Squirrel Girl coaster for the win!
dreamfinder
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Captain Jack would be cool. I haven't had the chance to see him yet.
jt04
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I agree with you for the most part here. But keep in mind that Disney will be developing their own Marvel characters. And they are going to invest heavily in lesser known characters. I think these characters will show up at DHS in a "Power Rangers" type show. They will also probably develop product for XD that includes the most famous characters. For all these reasons I think you will see Universal choose to get out of the Marvel business at IoA. It's like Coke advertising for Pepsi and paying Pepsi to do so.
OK.....gotta go.