Captain EO in pretty Lousy Shape

[PurpleDragon]

Also it is a mystery to me how so many people have been banned and are now else where but someone like you is still here????

Seriously? You are suggesting that a senior member of this site, who has been here for 6 years and made countless contributions to this site, should be banned for having a little fun with you, a new member who has barely been here for 2 months and has less than 100 posts?

 

[wm49rs]

Seriously? You are suggesting that a senior member of this site, who has been here for 6 years and made countless contributions to this site, should be banned for having a little fun with you, a new member who has barely been here for 2 months and has less than 100 posts?

More curiously, if he's so new to the forum, how does he know so many people have been banned? :shrug:

 

[Mr. Spock]

Seriously? You are suggesting that a senior member of this site, who has been here for 6 years and made countless contributions to this site, should be banned for having a little fun with you, a new member who has barely been here for 2 months and has less than 100 posts?

No Not for arguing with me. Name one bit of real actual news the he has contributed because I may have just started posting here but he was a reputation for never contributing anything news worthy.

 

[fosse76]

But it's a spaceship version of Earth. Almost like a time capsule for space if it were real. I am sticking by my words. Fantasyland would have been the worst idea for EO. :hurl:

No, it's not. A science class would do you some good. Spaceship Earth (the planet earth is actually travelling through space, making it a space ship of sorts) is a geodesic sphere, whose shape and geometric design were informed by the discovery fullerenes, complex carbon structures. It is very much in fitting with Epcot's original mission statement.

 

[NoChesterHester]

Sad but true.

The Living Seas, World Of Motion, Horizons, etc....all had a central theme and purpose.

Take a look at the past, see where we are today and then imagine what we can do in the future.

Now EPCOT is a dim shadow of it's former self.

Or maybe I'm just getting old and maudlin.

I have my own nostalgia for Epcot. It is still my biggest memory as a child attending the park in 1985, and being amazed by everything there. It was such an idyllic and positive view of where we were headed.

Like everything however, Future World's mission has evolved. It just isn't practical to continue to try to have it portray a future that becomes reality quicker and quicker.

I may get flamed, but the renaming of that side of the park would probably gone a long way in re-imaging what EPCOT wants to be. It is currently stuck between a nostalgic grasp of what it once was and teetering on being a theme park that will stand the test of time for the future.

I say it isn't about what the original mission statement was, it is about revising the mission statement to make something last for the future.

 

[JustInTime]

No, it's not. A science class would do you some good. Spaceship Earth (the planet earth is actually travelling through space, making it a space ship of sorts) is a geodesic sphere, whose shape and geometric design were informed by the discovery fullerenes, complex carbon structures. It is very much in fitting with Epcot's original mission statement.

But the actual design of the ride in which I was referring to is an actual Spaceship version of earth. I know all about Buckminster Fuller and his ideas for Earth as a Utopia. And I have no doubt thats where the idea came from. But what was credited down in Florida was a futuristic/spaceship creation. The attraction is sci-fi and futuristic. Just like Mr. Fuller's ideas.

 

[WDWSwashbuckler]

I have my own nostalgia for Epcot. It is still my biggest memory as a child attending the park in 1985, and being amazed by everything there. It was such an idyllic and positive view of where we were headed.

Like everything however, Future World's mission has evolved. It just isn't practical to continue to try to have it portray a future that becomes reality quicker and quicker.

I may get flamed, but the renaming of that side of the park would probably gone a long way in re-imaging what EPCOT wants to be. It is currently stuck between a nostalgic grasp of what it once was and teetering on being a theme park that will stand the test of time for the future.

I say it isn't about what the original mission statement was, it is about revising the mission statement to make something last for the future.

I happen to agree with you on this. It's incredibly difficult and sometimes a little gut-wrenching to see the beloved Future World attractions of my childhood destroyed and replaced, but EPCOT really needs to retool what sort of message they're looking to display. I think it's at least somewhat evident by the interactivity portion of SE that Disney is trying to look towards an environmental/green message, which I appreciate, but I'm not sure how that works out with the rest of Future World.

 

[jt04]

I have my own nostalgia for Epcot. It is still my biggest memory as a child attending the park in 1985, and being amazed by everything there. It was such an idyllic and positive view of where we were headed.

Like everything however, Future World's mission has evolved. It just isn't practical to continue to try to have it portray a future that becomes reality quicker and quicker.

I may get flamed, but the renaming of that side of the park would probably gone a long way in re-imaging what EPCOT wants to be. It is currently stuck between a nostalgic grasp of what it once was and teetering on being a theme park that will stand the test of time for the future.

I say it isn't about what the original mission statement was, it is about revising the mission statement to make something last for the future.

I happen to agree with you on this. It's incredibly difficult and sometimes a little gut-wrenching to see the beloved Future World attractions of my childhood destroyed and replaced, but EPCOT really needs to retool what sort of message they're looking to display. I think it's at least somewhat evident by the interactivity portion of SE that Disney is trying to look towards an environmental/green message, which I appreciate, but I'm not sure how that works out with the rest of Future World.

I hear what you are both saying and Disney has expressed the same concern but I think the problem is solveable.

It appears Tomorrowland will be reverting to a retro theme and that will make it 'timeless' in a sense. "The future that never will be and always is" :lol:

But Future World should always be that IMO and keeping it futuristic is not impossible. Not with enough imagination applied.

They just need to imagine scenarios that are at least 20 to 25 years out, or the average lifespan of an attraction. Or, if they really get a concept right it can last much much longer as demonstrated by Living With the Land.

I have figured out ways to keep every existing pavilion futuristic at minimal expense except Energy. When I figure that out I will add them all to the Imagineering forum. Sometimes I think Disney would be better off dropping Energy as a theme and repurposing that pavilion.

 

[raven]

It fits better than tie in's to Finding Nemo and the ill-fated Mission to Mars movie (have you seen the CGI in that film? Talk about dated), a recreation of a GM factory from the late 90s, and a simulator about California landmarks.

I'm sure you are a great companion on WDW vacations.

Here's the thing: for those of us that visited Epcot Center in the first 10 years it was open as a child, we all have fond memories of the place and want to relive that feeling. But the majority of the adults that visited at that time were largely unimpressed with the place. This is largely impart by Disney getting away from the "classic Disney" style of parks and going for something new and intuitive. With technology constantly changing it's very difficult to keep anyone's attention anymore and going forward is constantly a challenge. But going backwards isn't going to do it either.

Sorry if you don't like the CGI in M:S. Evidently NASA hasn't found you yet in being the only human being that's been to Mars to know that it's dated.

 

[janoimagine]

sorry if you don't like the cgi in m:s. Evidently nasa hasn't found you yet in being the only human being that's been to mars to know that it's dated.

Well said.

 

[Captain Neo]

Sorry if you don't like the CGI in M:S. Evidently NASA hasn't found you yet in being the only human being that's been to Mars to know that it's dated.

Both the ride and movie have the worst CGI I have ever laid eyes on

 

[thelookingglass]

Whats wrong with the CGI in Mission: Space? It IS a simulator of a simulator, after all. Within the context of the ride's story, you're not actually flying to Mars, you're doing a training simulation.

 

[Captain Neo]

Whats wrong with the CGI in Mission: Space? It IS a simulator of a simulator, after all. Within the context of the ride's story, you're not actually flying to Mars, you're doing a training simulation.

its low budget CGI. Why couldn't they do something like Star Tours, Body Wars, or Star Tours II which actually look realistic? I have a hard time believing that a space simulator in the future would use late 90s grade CGI

 

[AEfx]

Personally I think it is keeping as many people away from Epcot as it is attracting.

/giggle

If someone chooses not to go to a theme park because there is an attraction there that they don't want to experience, that no one if forcing them to experience, then the problem is with them, not the attraction.

 

[thelookingglass]

its low budget CGI. Why couldn't they do something like Star Tours, Body Wars, or Star Tours II which actually look realistic? I have a hard time believing that a space simulator in the future would use late 90s grade CGI

I've never been bothered by it - the only part that appears fake is Mars. Plus, it was perfectly fine for 2003 when it was new. Only now is it started to look outdated.