Captain America 4

TP2000

TP2000

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Disney Irish said:
Which is funny because if you actually calculate it out, if Titantic did actually sell the same amount of tickets today using today's average ticket price of $10.78 it would come out to $1.401B.
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On what planet are you going to see a first-run, mega-studio Summer/Christmas blockbuster release for $11 in 2025?

When I took my family to Barbie at Cinepolis in Del Mar, the tickets were north of $20 apiece. Plus cocktails and cheesecake and caramel covered popcorn delivered to our seats.

It must have been at least a $300 movie outing, compliments of Uncle TP2000, that loveable old moneybags. ;)

I get it, not everywhere is as expensive as coastal San Diego County to see a blockbuster movie a week after it came out, in an upscale theater with reserved lounge chairs and seatside waitress service.

But an $11 ticket to Barbie in July, 2023? Maybe in a small town in Maine, with a coupon?
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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TP, you’ve gotten a bit side tracked. It’s not that it is completely irrelevant, it certainly is somewhat relevant. It just that it doesn’t define the current market.

Expectations are set by the current theatrical landscape, which has shrunk relative to Inflation. No one expects the next James Cameron film to make 5 billion dollars. It’s a ridiculous sum that’s larger than half of the entire domestic market. No one expects any Disney animated film to make 5B either. Cutting down the Frozen franchise because it made a third of Cinderella doesn’t really say anything meaningful. Kids weren’t watching Cinderella for the twentieth time that month in the 50s.

So defining expectations by inflation adjusted movies from 20-30 (or more) years ago starts to lose the plot a bit. Particularly because of the inflation shock, even going back a decade starts to become murky when we compare and define things.

Often it’s presented in an inflammatory way, even though the production budget is there for all to see in a sometimes over inflated manner. Titanic in an inflationary sense was riskier than Avatar Way of Water. But that’s certainly not how James Cameron saw nor frames it. Because we are living in our current environment, not the 90s.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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TP2000 said:
On what planet are you going to see a first-run, mega-studio Summer/Christmas blockbuster release for $11 in 2025?

When I took my family to Barbie at Cinepolis in Del Mar, the tickets were north of $20 apiece. Plus cocktails and cheesecake and caramel covered popcorn delivered to our seats.

It must have been at least a $300 movie outing, compliments of Uncle TP2000, that loveable old moneybags. ;)

I get it, not everywhere is as expensive as coastal San Diego County to see a blockbuster movie a week after it came out, in an upscale theater with reserved lounge chairs and seatside waitress service.

But an $11 ticket to Barbie in July, 2023? Maybe in a small town in Maine, with a coupon?
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It’s an average of all ticket prices across the nation, not just coastal states that tend to pay more for most things.
Everything from the cheaper matinee showings to ticket discounts go into the averages too, not just premium seating that you might have paid.

You can see it on your favorite website Numbers here -

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www.the-numbers.com

The Numbers - Movie Market Summary 1995 to 2025

Overall movie market summary for each year 1995 to 2025
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Not to mention like @brideck mentioned, an average ticket price in 1997 would have been ~$4.57 (see Numbers site above), if we're really doing a true inflation adjusted number that would have been ~$9 in 2025 dollars. So even less than the average ticket price of today, so I was even being generous when I calculated based on today's ticket prices rather than the real inflation adjusted number based on 1997 prices.

Which is why you cannot just do an apples-to-apples comparison like you're trying to do.
 
LSLS

LSLS

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The problem using inflation is it doesn't account for other factors. Titanic hilariously is a great example. I remember in high school going to see it on Christmas cause my friends and I wanted something to do and figured why not cause it was like $5 (i remember because someone in the audience legit stood up and clapped at Leos death). Now, I just spent $20 to see Captain America. Sure inflation is up. But I believe average income is only up like 10% since the mid 90s. So movies went from a "Eh, there's nothing else to do" to a legit financial consideration. I can tell you as I'm out of town right now, I'd go to another couple movies if the price was less. After spending $40 between a ticket and popcorn/drink last night, I will not be spending any more nights on this trip at a random movie.
 
brideck

brideck

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TP2000 said:
On what planet are you going to see a first-run, mega-studio Summer/Christmas blockbuster release for $11 in 2025?

When I took my family to Barbie at Cinepolis in Del Mar, the tickets were north of $20 apiece. Plus cocktails and cheesecake and caramel covered popcorn delivered to our seats.

It must have been at least a $300 movie outing, compliments of Uncle TP2000, that loveable old moneybags. ;)

I get it, not everywhere is as expensive as coastal San Diego County to see a blockbuster movie a week after it came out, in an upscale theater with reserved lounge chairs and seatside waitress service.

But an $11 ticket to Barbie in July, 2023? Maybe in a small town in Maine, with a coupon?
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If I weren't on a subscription program (I generally pay as little as $2-$3 a movie because of how much I see in a month), I could go to matinees in my market for $9 or $10 at first-run theaters. Discount Tuesdays are also generally an industry-wide thing.

Heck, I could apparently see a movie at the Megaplex in St. George, Utah for $6 today, if I wanted to.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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brideck said:
If I weren't on a subscription program (I generally pay as little as $2-$3 a movie because of how much I see in a month), I could go to matinees in my market for $9 or $10 at first-run theaters. Discount Tuesdays are also generally an industry-wide thing.

Heck, I could apparently see a movie at the Megaplex in St. George, Utah for $6 today, if I wanted to.
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Sure you got to get out of that summertime heat.
 
TalkingHead

TalkingHead

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The premium large format screens like IMAX or Dolby all seem to be priced at $17.99 and up, and a couple bucks cheaper on Tuesdays.

There’s some Tuesday tickets in metro areas for $7. But for a lot of people that means the inconvenience of going out after work on a Tuesday, plus the prospect of dealing with rude patrons who are attracted to the cheaper price.
 
brideck

brideck

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TalkingHead said:
The premium large format screens like IMAX or Dolby all seem to be priced at $17.99 and up, and a couple bucks cheaper on Tuesdays.
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Well, sure, but there's a reason that a 12-16 screen theater will only have one or two premium screens. They are not the normal way to attend a movie and the reported average reflects that.

I could see why people think tickets are far too expensive if that's all they're looking at. ETA: In my market, Dolby/IMAX is $20/ticket. That's only a few dollars less than the monthly price ($24) for the subscription plan. Even if you only wanted to go twice a month, but insisted on premium screens, you'd be silly to pay face value.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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As long as Disney can hold on to the 4105 theaters and keep Cap in these for the longest time possible, I think Cap will break even or even make some money.

This is the best we can expect from Disney movies in general.
 
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DKampy

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TP2000 said:
On what planet are you going to see a first-run, mega-studio Summer/Christmas blockbuster release for $11 in 2025?

When I took my family to Barbie at Cinepolis in Del Mar, the tickets were north of $20 apiece. Plus cocktails and cheesecake and caramel covered popcorn delivered to our seats.

It must have been at least a $300 movie outing, compliments of Uncle TP2000, that loveable old moneybags. ;)

I get it, not everywhere is as expensive as coastal San Diego County to see a blockbuster movie a week after it came out, in an upscale theater with reserved lounge chairs and seatside waitress service.

But an $11 ticket to Barbie in July, 2023? Maybe in a small town in Maine, with a coupon?
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I sssume you went at night…. I don’t think I have ever seen a matinee price at 20.00..,, even at your most luxurious theater…. Remember that is an average….My wife and I regularly see Matinee movies on sundays at $9…. Although theaters around me don’t even charge 20 for the ultra screen at night…. And I am in the Milwaukee market…. Not exactly small town Maine
 
EagleScout610

EagleScout610

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Cap had one good weekend at the theater I work at then pretty much crashed and burned this weekend. Seems to be the trend for Marvels at my theater.
 
LittleBuford

LittleBuford

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Chi84 said:
No one under the age of 60 would sit through the original Snow White today.

Actually, that's being terribly insulting to the elderly. No one would sit through the original Snow White today.
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I’ve sat through it multiple times since childhood. I think it’s a masterpiece, and I love watching it. I don’t claim others should like it, but I’m surprised you’re so certain of its lack of appeal to modern audiences. Sure, Disney wouldn’t release a film like it today, but I can’t be the only person born this side of the 1970s who enjoys it.
 
Agent H

Agent H

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LittleBuford said:
I’ve sat through it multiple times since childhood. I think it’s a masterpiece, and I love watching it. I don’t claim others should like it, but I’m surprised you’re so certain of its lack of appeal to modern audiences. Sure, Disney wouldn’t release a film like it today, but I can’t be the only person born this side of the 1970s who enjoys it.
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I’d rather sit though Snow White than any minons movie.
 
Chi84

Chi84

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LittleBuford said:
I’ve sat through it multiple times since childhood. I think it’s a masterpiece, and I love watching it. I don’t claim others should like it, but I’m surprised you’re so certain of its lack of appeal to modern audiences. Sure, Disney wouldn’t release a film like it today, but I can’t be the only person born this side of the 1970s
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Oh no I think it would be popular with young children, particularly those too young to operate the remote.
 

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