Hawkeye_2018
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Red One. One of the worst movies I’ve ever seen has a 90% audience rating. 
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Captain America 4
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LSLS
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I don't know Rotten Tomatoes well enough, but I would think the number of reviews matter as much as the rating when it comes to Audience. If Wish got 80%, but only has 2,200 reviews while other movies have like 10,000, that tells you all you need to know.
Back on this one, the critics hating it at worst makes no difference to me. I learned long ago that whatever critics think usually means the opposite to me.
Back on this one, the critics hating it at worst makes no difference to me. I learned long ago that whatever critics think usually means the opposite to me.
Agent H
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Yeah they watch a lot more movies on the regular than all of us so they get tired of certain things like superhero movies of course that’s understandable from their perspective but it makes them seem out of touch sometimes IMO
Reading a smattering of reviews… both fresh and rotten… it seems most are saying the film is just ok… not great not horrible… it just depends on if the critic thinks there is enough there to recommend or not
Some of the critics that dislike the film say it’s because the film did not make a statement regarding current day politics…. So to those that matters should be happy
Some of the critics that dislike the film say it’s because the film did not make a statement regarding current day politics…. So to those that matters should be happy
LSLS
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I've said it before, but they care about much different things. The number one thing I care about is if I'm entertained. That's about 58th on their list.
Agent H
Well-Known Member
Never doubt certain people’s ability to find something to complain about
Wendy Pleakley
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Aggregate critic and audience scores can be useful, but feel too weighted towards our modern desire for quick and easy answers to questions, such as is this a good movie?
As the late great Roger Ebert said, a good movie review should explain the movie in a way that the reader will know whether or not they want to see it. The actual ranking is not the be all and end all. A critic could rate a movie one star because it's just mindless action, but they should describe it in a way where the reader can say, great, I love mindless action so I want to see this movie.
People don't necessarily want to put in the effort to find a reviewer that speaks to them or even read detailed reviews that describe a movie. Instead, it's just taking ten seconds to look up the average scores and incorrectly thinking that tells one much.
Critics tend to want more substance from movies, whereas audiences are often looking for a fun popcorn flick. There's a reason Marvel movies don't win Academy Awards but are generally crowd pleasing. Hence the disparity between rankings. Neither side is "correct" or "incorrect", but it's good to understand what the two groups tend to prefer as part of making an informed decision.
If you like the more "artsy" movies that critics often prefer, their scores are more useful. If you just want a fun movie, audience scores may be.
As the late great Roger Ebert said, a good movie review should explain the movie in a way that the reader will know whether or not they want to see it. The actual ranking is not the be all and end all. A critic could rate a movie one star because it's just mindless action, but they should describe it in a way where the reader can say, great, I love mindless action so I want to see this movie.
People don't necessarily want to put in the effort to find a reviewer that speaks to them or even read detailed reviews that describe a movie. Instead, it's just taking ten seconds to look up the average scores and incorrectly thinking that tells one much.
Critics tend to want more substance from movies, whereas audiences are often looking for a fun popcorn flick. There's a reason Marvel movies don't win Academy Awards but are generally crowd pleasing. Hence the disparity between rankings. Neither side is "correct" or "incorrect", but it's good to understand what the two groups tend to prefer as part of making an informed decision.
If you like the more "artsy" movies that critics often prefer, their scores are more useful. If you just want a fun movie, audience scores may be.
Agent H
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Honestly I just wish people would watch a trailer and decide for themselves weather or not the movie looks good
Chi84
Premium Member
No, we prefer to decide for others here.
Dranth
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They do.
Most people will decide based on a combination of the genre of a movie, the trailer, word of mouth/reviews, whether it is a sequel or not, etc.
The groups that scream as loud as they can about how bad a movie is before it is even released are normally full of it. Even when they are right and a movie turns out bad, the why is almost always laughable. Thankfully they are usually easy to spot as they don't like to engage with any reality that doesn't fit their agenda driven, grievance filled takes. They are seldom consistent and when confronted will either call the person a shill and/or offer up some glaringly unintelligent reasoning that can easily be disproved. When they get called out on that, they always have a convenient out of someone getting paid or the system being rigged. Amazingly, they never have any proof except for other people saying the same thing who in turn don't have any actual proof.
End of the day, the movie will either be good or it won't and that is all that really matters to most of us.
Wendy Pleakley
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By that metric most movies look good. Trailers are expertly crafted to sell the best parts of a movie.
MagicMouseFan
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“Captain America: Brave New World” is targeting $80 million to $85 million over the traditional weekend and $90 million to $95 million through the President’s Day holiday.
variety.com
Box Office: ‘Captain America: Brave New World’ Aims for $95 Million Opening Over President’s Day Weekend
"Captain America Brave New World" will aim to take the box office by storm over President's Day weekend.
variety.com
TalkingHead
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Does the trailer come equipped with a summary of the dozen+ previous MCU entries you need to have seen to enjoy this movie? If not then the trailer isn’t selling the movie to a lot of casual moviegoers.
Animaniac93-98
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To date, only 3 MCU movies out of 35 are listed as "rotten" on RT, meaning less than 60% of critics recommend watching them.
It's a bit more nuanced than just "critics don't like popcorn movies". They do. Quite often, as the MCU has shown.
The less than favorable reviews for this one movie suggest they just didn't like it as much as the others.
It's a bit more nuanced than just "critics don't like popcorn movies". They do. Quite often, as the MCU has shown.
The less than favorable reviews for this one movie suggest they just didn't like it as much as the others.
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Vegas Disney Fan
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I never pay attention to the critics scores for that reason, they have to factor in too many metrics beyond entertainment. I like a lot of movies with bad acting, bad writing, ridiculous plots, etc… a critic would be ridiculed for ignoring those things but as long as I’m entertained I really don’t care.
I also think audience scores are more inherently honest, reading a review from someone who isn’t a fan of a specific genre (but had to review it as part of their job) will give a very different perspective than a review from someone who likes that genre and specifically chose to see it.
Hawkeye_2018
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I trust the critics score. And this one being around the same % as Eternals and Antman 3, two movies I did not like, has me in no hurry to see it
Only if the audience score is high.
If the audience score is low, then they didn't.
And what determines if Disney is using bots or not?
Reasons!
LSLS
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This is off Rotten Tomatoes. I mean, if this is true, I'm 100% in on this one. Like I said, I have 0 faith in the critics. NOW, do I think this will be a hit? I doubt it. I think they did a bit of a disservice making him Captain America as opposed to letting him run as Falcon. But I have a feeling I will like this more than most of the recent MCU movies I've seen. Take that for what it's worth, I also have said multiple times I like Falcon and the Winter Soldier, and that Hawkeye and Loki are towards the bottom of my list of MCU TV series that I've seen.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
The trailers for this look terrible
It looks like a lot of low quality CGI
Again?
MagicMouseFan
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Box office will tell the tale of the tape.
Will audiences show up or do they think this is the “B” team and wait for Disney plus?