Rumor Bye Bye (Tiki) Birdies?

NearTheEars

Well-Known Member
Your head maybe popping out of someone 's neck you are so up there. This isn't manipulating... but actually discussion. If you think its so insane... you might rethink your perception of the organization

Reminds me of when @WDW1974 dropped the ToT to Guardians news. He certainly was trying to send a message and stir up negativity about it. I think he even encouraged people to contact executives just to show the little secret was out. And in that case, I was 100% on board. The outrage so far isn't on the same level, which I think says something about how people truly feel about the attraction.

I'll be sad to see the Tiki Birds go, but for some reason I'm not in shock like when initially, WDW's tower was on the chopping block.
 

Bacon

Well-Known Member
Honestly even doh i would be sad to see it go if I had to replace it with a IP I would replace it with Moana or lilo and stitch
 

brb1006

Well-Known Member
This is a key point - WDW thrives on nostalgia. They have pretty much had that field to themselves and their lead is huge - but not guaranteed. Uni will begin building up a loyal, nostalgic audience raised on Spider-Man and the Potter areas. They are already putting in infrastructure to benefit from the nostalgia crowd with things like the new prop store.

The strength of Disney's properties may mean Uni never wins the nostalgia race, but they can put a serious dent in Disney's lead.
This reminds me of how often Universal started airing more of their theme park commercials once the Harry Potter section was added. Because I remember in the mid 2000's (At least in my area) WDW was still well-known while Universal didn't get as much attention at the time at least with their marketing. I could be wrong though.
 

FigmentJedi

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I'll be sad to see the Tiki Birds go, but for some reason I'm not in shock like when initially, WDW's tower was on the chopping block.
Mission Breakout was just that demoralizing for the entire community. Like they've done really stupid stuff under the Iger administration as far as these overlays and junk goes, but overhauling the Tower of Terror in such a way throws the expectations of what the hell Disney's going to do next out the window.

Like outside Star Wars Land, I'm just afraid the future of Imagineering's output in America is
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
Charming! But while I recognize that their info likely has a grain of truth to it, my experience with the poster is that they enjoy provoking as much as providing rumors. Your experience may be different.

Lucky for him, for 15 years almost every WDW rumor has been provoking!

Two birds, one stone!
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
Reminds me of when @WDW1974 dropped the ToT to Guardians news. He certainly was trying to send a message and stir up negativity about it. I think he even encouraged people to contact executives just to show the little secret was out. And in that case, I was 100% on board. The outrage so far isn't on the same level, which I think says something about how people truly feel about the attraction.

I'll be sad to see the Tiki Birds go, but for some reason I'm not in shock like when initially, WDW's tower was on the chopping block.

I think WDW1974 can take some credit in saving the Tower in WDW. If he hadn't alerted us, we wouldn't have gone yelling to TDO about it, and maybe, just maybe, that had some part in its salvation. I like to think so, anyway...
 

Otterhead

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overhauling the Tower of Terror in such a way throws the expectations of what the hell Disney's going to do next out the window.
Eh. That area of California Adventure is in dire need of theming and help. And let's be honest, their Tower has always been a lesser sibling to the original. I love the Tower of Terror, but I can also understand the desire to give that area of CA something truly unique rather than a simplified version of the original ride. The art I've seen has been really impressive. I'm curious to see what they do. And if it's bad, then I'll call them on it, but it intrigues me much more than demoralizes me.
 

MinnieWaffles

Well-Known Member
There is a simple reason for this.

A vast majority of big WDW announcements since the opening of AK have been negative. Even the positive ones, like Pandora, come with sizable caveats.

I always wonder - if you knew and loved WDW in the 80s or early (or even late) 90s, how can you look at what it's become and not be angered?

Pathetic. Really pathetic. But that's what this site is full of, pathetic trolls.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
So, history does not matter at WDW?

Most stuff directly connected to those Walt personally mentored and that is unique in the world does have a historic context I think. Other than that I can't think of anything.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
You know, WDW used to have characters, rare and otherwise, just walk around without rigid meeting stations. I bet kids would like that.
You do know why they can't do that anymore at WDW, right? Because a character would show up, and would be mobbed by entitled people who wanted to be sure that their children got to meet them, even to the point of shoving their kids in front of others. Not safe for the characters at all.

Weirdly, that doesn't seem to happen as much at DL.
 

rael ramone

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Just a few quick thoughts before I don my Easter bonnet and head out (to egg the homes of Disney execs, of course):

--No, the Tiki Room will not be replaced by Mystic Manor. It is not coming to WDW (for the 8,765th time) whether at MK or DAK or at the new DVC. It is HKDL's Haunted Mansion, whether you, individually, believe it is different enough to make it not duplicative. I don't know what will replace it as there are multiple 'plans' floating. I do believe this attraction isn't long for existence, despite the fact I'd still call this 'rumor' right now;

-- No, they don't care about how popular you, individually, may feel this attraction is within the fan community. They sell far more Horizons and Journey into Imagination merchandise with those attractions ripped out than they did before. In other words, fanbois will buy even more Tiki stuff if the attraction goes extinct;

-- Whether you, individually, care or not really isn't important to Disney or anyone else but the people who care about your opinions. I have said this for years about the soon-to-be-gone Speedway and very-likely-not-long for existence TSI. Just because YOU don't like an attraction or see value in it doesn't mean there isn't any. I haven't been on the Speedway since last century. I have no plans to change that. But the attraction is timeless. It's always been largely a ride for kids ... kids who long for the freedom of the road and the automobile. That hasn't changed at all. And unlike a lot of stuff added for young kids over the last 15 years, this attraction could, can and is enjoyed by older people as well. A family attraction. Imagine that.

-- Within a decade, the MK is very likely to be near unrecognizable to someone who visited in 1977 or 1987 and hasn't been back since. It already has lost all those little shops, quiet pathways and nooks, gardens, entertainment that isn't foamhead based, trees etc.

-- WDW and the MK were built with the so-called 'blessing of size' and that is what is infuriating about the last 20 years of add an attraction/lose an attraction. Expansion is needed, but expansion isn't replacing or repurposing existing attractions, facilities or Guest areas. New, new, new (hey, Dr. Blondie, are we still calling it new?) Fantasyland is all you need to know about this. You don't add capacity by shifting it whether by replacing an attraction with another (even a more popular one), just like you don't add it by FP+/NGE subterfuge .... that's all a shell game.

-- IP is basically leading the charge when it comes to new parks product. You can view this as a positive, but I absolutely don't. The MK ... the EPCOT ... these parks are morphing from theme parks to IP/franchise parks. There is a difference. A very large one. But you simply won't see attractions added that can't be tied to hot Disney props.

Anyway, just some thoughts ... Happy Easter to y'all.

BRAND is not a real Theme.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
You do know why they can't do that anymore at WDW, right? Because a character would show up, and would be mobbed by entitled people who wanted to be sure that their children got to meet them, even to the point of shoving their kids in front of others. Not safe for the characters at all.

Weirdly, that doesn't seem to happen as much at DL.

See, I just don't believe this. I don't think people have gotten that much worse in 20 years, or are in some way superior in California (really... California?)

Walt believed environment largely dictated behavior, and he was right. Create a polite, clean, orderly environment and people will respond.

Stick a few of the biggies - Mickey, Elsa, current IP star - in a set location and let random characters wander around. Heck, it's even a way to keep folks in the park and offer them something to do while waiting for their FP+ to pop (something WDW sorely needs) - gotta catch 'em all!!
 

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