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Rumor Bye Bye (Tiki) Birdies?

WDW Pro

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I'm pretty darn certain that the Moana overlay to the Tiki Room was a legitimate leak, even if it was a blue sky leak. I'm not sure why Disney is so harshly condemning the "rumor" unless its a signal to people leaking information about more financially important projects. I don't think the CBJ to Toy Story rumor was ever based on anything real, but Moana in the Enchanted Tiki Room is definitely something that has been on people's desks before.

This is a very bizarre story that I was just made aware of. I'm really interested in why Disney chose to respond this way in official media.
 

Bender123

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This is a very bizarre story that I was just made aware of. I'm really interested in why Disney chose to respond this way in official media
Because Tom has a huge following and a very large site that attracts WDW fanatics. Even with his "questionable" record, when you start a rumor about a Walt original, you are going to attract the ire of fans to the WDW leadership. Its far better to respond and discredit than let the rumor hang out there.

In addition, they responded to the CBJ rumor, because Tom decided, for some reason, to call out WDW management for deflecting on CBJ by only addressing the Tiki rumor. Yeah...its petty, but WDWToday obviously was getting tired of Tom sending the pitchfork wielding fans to their twitter page.
 

nickys

Premium Member
I'm pretty darn certain that the Moana overlay to the Tiki Room was a legitimate leak, even if it was a blue sky leak. I'm not sure why Disney is so harshly condemning the "rumor" unless its a signal to people leaking information about more financially important projects. I don't think the CBJ to Toy Story rumor was ever based on anything real, but Moana in the Enchanted Tiki Room is definitely something that has been on people's desks before.

This is a very bizarre story that I was just made aware of. I'm really interested in why Disney chose to respond this way in official media.
Read back a bit. Although the text of the article talked about an overlay, the headline mentioned Replacement. There is a significant difference between the two.

And as to why? Someone suggested maybe he’d used up all the goodwill with his earlier nonsense claims. That explanation seems plausible IMO.
 

WDW Pro

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Read back a bit. Although the text of the article talked about an overlay, the headline mentioned Replacement. There is a significant difference between the two.

And as to why? Someone suggested maybe he’d used up all the goodwill with his earlier nonsense claims. That explanation seems plausible IMO.
What blogger was it that talked about the rumor? Never mind, I just read it. I'll have to check around a bit on this... I still think there's more to the story here than what I'm seeing. It's atypical for Disney to refer to a blogger specifically as being "unscrupulous", especially when the rumor is based on partially accurate blue sky leaks.
 

nickys

Premium Member
What blogger was it that talked about the rumor? Never mind, I just read it. I'll have to check around a bit on this... I still think there's more to the story here than what I'm seeing. It's atypical for Disney to refer to a blogger specifically as being "unscrupulous", especially when the rumor is based on partially accurate blue sky leaks.
Well who was it who broke the “story” that The Land and Seas were to be bull-dozed just days earlier? 🧐
 

WDW Guru

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What blogger was it that talked about the rumor? Never mind, I just read it. I'll have to check around a bit on this... I still think there's more to the story here than what I'm seeing. It's atypical for Disney to refer to a blogger specifically as being "unscrupulous", especially when the rumor is based on partially accurate blue sky leaks.
It's not just about him reporting on the rumor that triggered them to respond. It's about how he presents the info. When you read his articles he makes it seemed confirmed, despite the fact that he puts rumor in the title. It shows he has no journalistic integrity.
 

WDW Pro

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It's not just about him reporting on the rumor that triggered them to respond. It's about how he presents the info. When you read his articles he makes it seemed confirmed, despite the fact that he puts rumor in the title. It shows he has no journalistic integrity.
I see. Thanks for the info. There are a lot of "insiders" out there, and many times they just sort of grab onto a little bit of a leak and then it becomes an echo chamber throughout the web. I just know that Disney doesn't usually respond to speculation or blue sky projects. But seriously, was anybody believing a site that claims they're bulldozing The Seas or The Land? Next thing you know, people will be believing that a roller coaster is going in Spaceship Earth ;)
 

Phil12

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More insignificant than the number of guests that want to see them both turned into hip hop shows?
I'd say about the same level of insignificance. However, that is only because most guests have never really considered the grand improvement that both a western themed and Polynesian themed hip hop show would bring:

Of course, many of the hip hop and rap influences come directly from Polynesia:
 
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General Mayhem

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And what pray tell do you consider the pinnacle of Disney Animated song lyrics?
Practically anything written by Howard Ashman, or Stephen Schwartz.

Howard Ashman's Disney Projects:
Oliver & Company (Once Upon a Time in New York City)
The Little Mermaid
Beauty and the Beast (1991, and 2001 special edition versions)
Aladdin ("Arabian Nights", "Friend Like Me", and "Prince Ali" included posthumously)

Stephen Schwartz's Disney Projects:
Pocahontas
Hunchback of Notre Dame
Mulan (Songs deleted but "Written in Stone" used in local productions)
Enchanted
 
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TeriofTerror

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Practically anything written by Howard Ashman, or Stephen Schwartz.

Howard Ashman's Disney Projects:
Oliver & Company (Once Upon a Time in New York City)
The Little Mermaid
Beauty and the Beast (1991, and 2001 special edition versions)
Aladdin ("Arabian Nights", "Friend Like Me", and "Prince Ali" included posthumously)

Stephen Schwartz's Disney Projects:
Pocahontas
Hunchback of Notre Dame
Mulan (Songs deleted but "Written in Stone" used in local productions)
Enchanted
I thought Mulan was more Matthew Wilder and David Zippel.
 
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