nevol
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News bye bye bugs: Marvel Land announced, opens 2020
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mickEblu
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Yeah it was worded funny. It’s possible they meant it in the way you say. I also mentioned that earlier today. I don’t think there is any chance of avengers or Spiderman opening in 2020. So I think they re saying, Marvel Land in 2020 will be anchored by GOTG.... in more ways than one. Geographically and because it may be the only ride.
I guess I’m kind of going out on a limb with the Antman thing. But i just find it really hard to believe they would close 5 “family” friendly attractions and replace it with meet n greets, even if just short term. And with as slow as WDI works I don’t see Spiderman or Avengers being ready in 2020. So if Antman isn’t going in ITTBABs real estate, what is? Atmosphere and facades? Or I guess they could technically use ITTBAB and animation real estate for Spiderman like you said. So this big land gets unveiled in 2020 with a net loss of 5 attractions?
With that said, Spiderman in the backlot would make for a weird layout to the land. So maybe ITTBAB/ Animation is really the only place that makes sense for Spiderman between the eastern gateway delays and the Avengers plot rumored behind GOTG.
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Disney Irish
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Since we're speaking of the Eastern Gateway delays, you do realize they've had this plan for awhile. It was just size and scope that kept changing. The Avengers coaster (previously Capt America) for example has been rumored for what seemed like 2+ years. So they could have been building all this stuff getting ready for the announcement to drop. But that kept getting delayed with the Eastern Gateway issues. So it may not take as long as you think. It could be what we call shovel ready.
nevol
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The entry to a bug's land is pretty narrow. A secondary path with foliage. Even when they take out the ITTBAB building, it is enough for a primary pathway (7+meters/25/30 feet) and area development. The buildings are unlikely to be just facades. I mean, they will be, but they'll probably be more functional than the facades in the backlot because they are developing an immersive land rather than a studio backlot. So spiderman either is really strategically located, has a smaller than expected footprint, or it is taking over animation or some other hollywoodland facilities.
One thought on that strategic location: From the main path in flik's to the carthay circle, it is basically the same width in google maps as the buena vista street facilities with retail and dining on both sides. If they dress the north facade while it is functionally spiderman's show building, they can put the retail and other experiences in the southern facades. Spidey could run all the way to where heimlich's is, backing up to animation without taking it over. Avengers is in the lot... Meh. all so awkward. The path begins so narrow, that it's hard to imagine a land and a show building, and then it opens up a ton in A Bug's Land. Even if the show building took up half of A Bug's Land south of Animation, there is ample room for worldbuilding and retail in the approach to Avengers.
Praying the changes to the layout and scope of the project aren't too dramatic and we can eventually see the expansion of dca into the bus area or what could have been. One guess is that the facades in this collage would have been blended into hollywoodland better, rather than stacked one next to another, while MMRRW goes where ITTBAB is? I'm not sad in the slightest about losing A Bug's Land, moreso curious what they're going to do with the as-of-yet unresolved hollywoodland next to a superior superhero boulevard. Today's news though is definitely news I'm taking well. We've known this would happen, and if it was inevitably coming, I just want(ed) it to be as incredible as possible to compensate for all the changes to DCA and TOT. I don't know if this is as good as what once was planned, but I am relieved by the concept art. it is more the vibe and experience I desired. It looks like a living breathing marvel universe striving to achieve the look of a lived in city, whereas Hong Kong's marvel tomorrowland is a bunch of bland monolithic institutional architecture--a convention center and a military base of sorts. it seems like Disneyland's will be home base in a way. This is just me blueskying, but I think a Dr. Strange walk-through a la the nautilus in DLP or the castle in Shanghai could be really bada**. As could a challenge trail of sorts along rooflines and into that stark water tank. Turn the entire land into an urban challenge trail/ropes course with character moments.
As for losing the flats/family rides, they just need to replace the capacity in Pixar Pier. I think it is good news that 4 of the 5 flats are glowing away. There are 4 flats in disneyland TOTAL. If that capacity can be replaced with actual attractions, eventually eating up the goofy sky school plot and parade storage in PP, then things are looking up. There might be a period of time where the other flats are busier but I'm not even sure people will notice they're gone to be honest. The park still has so many spinners. Once they're done with marvel phase one they can turn their attention to PP again and reclaiming family attraction capacity. Change the dialogue about disneyland in M:BO, as that shouldn't jive with the rest of the land. Then they can just pivot back and forth for a decade until both lands are filled out.
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IMDREW
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Is there any possibility for a Doctor Strange ride or show? His sanctum is very large on the Disneyland poster, so that should mean something right?
Also, when M:BO came I was really excited and curious how the rest of marvel land would have the same style. But now I see that it won't and M:BO will stand out like a sore thumb just as much as it does now. Weird.
Also, when M:BO came I was really excited and curious how the rest of marvel land would have the same style. But now I see that it won't and M:BO will stand out like a sore thumb just as much as it does now. Weird.
mlayton144
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Hate hate hate this. Super heroes further invade disney parks. When I think of super heroes I think of Six Flags or Universal. I totally get it , but I hate it.
You have to remember that for Six Flags, a superhero ride is a coaster painted that superhero's signature color. And that's about it. That's totally different than the Iron Man ride in Hong Kong or GotG:MB.
mlayton144
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I hear you, but saying that’s my first impulse , disney had always been tha opposite of superhero / universal vibe but clearly that’s changing
Curious Constance
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Don't forget the cheap facades and larger than life character statues. That sounds a lot like Pixar Pier and is seemingly becoming more and more like Disney every year.
BD-Anaheim
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I don't think it really matters where Marvel is based given that the DCA theme and cohesive story is totally dead.
mlayton144
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indeed
mlayton144
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The only positive I see is that it will be a draw esp for younger and adolescent boys , drawing crowds away from Disneyland ? Oh wait , Star Wars land will suck them right back In
Curious Constance
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If they are doing a superhero land, I can understand putting Spiderman and Avengers in it, but Dr Strange seems like a really limiting choice. When you think about the number of people who have no idea who that character is, or know of him, but haven't ever seen the movie or have any desire to, it just doesn't seem like it would be much of a draw.
britain
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His building is an example of architecture that is both comic book related AND old-fashioned, with ornateness and a sense of history. It's just the sort of thing they'd use to break up the 'big modern city' look so that it wouldn't be too monotonous.
It's also possible that they could use Dr. Strange's abilities in an Avengers ride to open portals, taking you from the 'city' to more spectacular locales.
Timothy_Q
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It’s funny because you just described the Incredicoaster
dweezil78
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As a counter to whole 'no more IP' argument -- if the masses don't really know who Dr. Strange is and the market hasn't been over saturated with his character or his story, wouldn't going with a more unknown Marvel hero like him allow for a more original experience?
i.e. If you don't know the character or his backstory, what's really the difference with this being tied to IP or WDI having come up with it on its own for a unique attraction?
Personally, I think Dr. Strange is pretty rad and is one of the more interesting characters as far as his abilities go, could see that lending itself well to some neat tricks w/ the way he opens portals and all that!
HKDL's Ant-Man ride is not coming to DLR. The Marvel team is interested in the parks having unique attractions, which is great!
I find it pretty dry and serviceable. It's just a "metropolis" in bright colors, nothing particularly immersive or compelling about it. I don't expect Disney's Marvel lands to be much different, as the Marvel films for the most part (Asgard and Wakanda aside obviously) don't focus on interesting environments - Iron Man and the Avengers typically work in big cities.
flynnibus
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I guess dumbo... Casey... and the tea cups should be on the chopping block too.
Don’t forget... part of bugs land was the response that DCA was too adult focused. I think bugs land swung too far the other way... but don’t forget the initial issue and repeat it