News Buzzy’s been stolen?

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TwilightZone

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They also wouldn't talk to me from the same account before they changed the handle to BDD, and confirm to me that they're the same person. But whatever, it seems like nobody wants to believe anything without 100% evidence in this thread
It's strange really. Most follow and believe insiders pretty dam well, especially @marni1971. I guess what makes this different that would make people not even listen to him is the story being absolutely nuts. This is the first known instance of a stolen aa. Maybe if something else of equal scale was stolen, more people would believe it.
 

Tom Morrow

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There's a big difference between running around backstage with a camera, something many people have done for the heck of it, and making a calculated effort to steal a large, several hundred pound animatronic from its metal perch 10 feet in the air and then escort it off property in an Ocean's Eleven-style heist.

He freaked out because his footage implicates him and perhaps maybe he filmed himself stealing other small piece of property.
 

Demarke

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There's a big difference between running around backstage with a camera, something many people have done for the heck of it, and making a calculated effort to steal a large, several hundred pound animatronic from its metal perch 10 feet in the air and then escort it off property in an Ocean's Eleven-style heist.

He freaked out because his footage implicates him and perhaps maybe he filmed himself stealing other small piece of property.
I was thinking along the same lines, he could have been freaking out simply over potential treaspassing charges stacking up with evidence on his phone that would support him repeatedly entering areas he was unauthorized to be in (and was probably already served a trespass notice from Disney in the past). Police and lawyers can make charges look severe that would typically only result in probation and community service after a deal is reached to reduce or drop or run the penalties concurrently. Not all 24 year old kids realize that they probably would never actually sentence the maximum penalty and stack time and fines for each offense, particularly on minor treaspassing charges (it’s not like he was at a top secret facility spying for an enemy or anything).
 

s8film40

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I really wish Disney would crack down on everyone going backstage to the full extent of whatever law they can. If they made public examples of these trespassers, maybe they’d stop.
I think it’s really hard for them to pursue trespassing charges for someone wandering into an area they shouldn’t be. Once someone is trespassed and then found on property it’s very clear cut, but that’s a two step process. The simple solution would be to install doors that require a card or code access, but that would cost money.
 

Cheekylittlerobot

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ugh. I don't really care who stole Buzzy, I just want to know what happened to Buzzy, for him to be in a safe place, (whether it be someone's house or the archives, I don't care, just someplace safe and clean and, (assuming his clothes are really gone) new clothing for him.

Someone please find my son and tell him I love him. :cry:
 

MouseBrayden

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I love Marni. I believe he has credible information 99% of the time. But when there's an actual police report out there, spelling it all out in black and white, come on now. This case is closed, as far as the law is concerned.

People saying this story is ‘over’ and the case is ‘closed’ are in an alternate universe. OCSO said TODAY this is an ACTIVE investigation and they can’t share anything more at this time. Doesn’t sound very ‘closed’ to me.

There’s nothing ‘black and white’ about the fact that we still don’t have a single report mentioning the state of the Buzzy animatronic itself.

If you’re not sufficiently stimulated by the diligent fact-gathering Disney fans are doing on this thread, go complain elsewhere.
 
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MisterPenguin

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People saying the case is ‘closed’ are really making me crack up give OSCO says this is an ACTIVE investigation and they can’t share anything more at this time (meaning things they can’t share yet).

There’s nothing ‘black and white’ about there not being any report mentioning the state of the Buzzy animatronic itself.

If you’re not sufficiently intersted in getting to the bottom of the story then stop complaining that others are trying to do so on this thread.

It's good to be specific here:
  1. Disney filed a report that Buzzy's clothes were stolen sometime in August.
  2. Buzzy is not where he's supposed to be (according to supposed photos). Was Buzzy stolen, or did some department in WDW remove him without "authorization" as @marni1971 has hinted? Still unresolved.
  3. BDD/Spikes has trespassed in the past to video Buzzy.
  4. BDD/Spikes voluntarily showed up to the police for an interview regarding Buzzy's missing clothes.
  5. It seems BDD/Spikes was surprised to find out he was a suspect and tried to leave without leave.
  6. BDD/Spikes got charged with resisting an officer. Getting flustered/sick during the process is irrelevant.
  7. BDD/Spikes was not charged with theft of either Buzzy's clothes or Buzzy itself. Just resisting an officer.
  8. However, BBD/Spikes, is a *suspect* in the theft of clothes.
 
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TwilightZone

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You know I was thinking about things and it got me brainstorming.
I remember an interview done with matt sonswa, I think with defunctland, one big specific thing I remember about matt was that he sounded nuts. Like out of his mind.
What if he and his friends were the ones who took buzzy/buzzy's clothes?
 

Wdwsince86

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You know I was thinking about things and it got me brainstorming.
I remember an interview done with matt sonswa, I think with defunctland, one big specific thing I remember about matt was that he sounded nuts. Like out of his mind.
What if he and his friends were the ones who took buzzy/buzzy's clothes?
I’m curious as to what made Matt sound out of his mind to you? I’ve heard that interview, he sounded no different than any other person that age.. he certainly didn’t come off as “nuts”.
 

flynnibus

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It's good to be specific here:
  1. Disney filed a report that Buzzy's clothes were stolen sometime in August.
  2. Buzzy is not where he's supposed to be. Was Buzzy stolen, or did some department in WDW remove him without "authorization" as @marni1971 has hinted? Still unresolved.
  3. BDD/Spikes has trespassed in the past to video Buzzy.
  4. BDD/Spikes voluntarily showed up to the police for an interview regarding Buzzy's missing clothes.
  5. It seems BDD/Spikes was surprised to find out he was a suspect and tried to leave without leave.
  6. BDD/Spikes got charged with resisting an officer. Getting flustered/sick during the process is irrelevant.
  7. BDD/Spikes was not charged with theft of either Buzzy's clothes or Buzzy itself. Just resisting an officer.
  8. However, BBD/Spikes, is a *suspect* in the theft of clothes.

I would change #2 to that we have photos showing Buzzy is not in place - but no one has confirmed if that situation is intentional or not.

That distinction is where people like martin have been coy...
 

yensidtlaw1969

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I love Marni. I believe he has credible information 99% of the time. But when there's an actual police report out there, spelling it all out in black and white, come on now. This case is closed, as far as the law is concerned.
I'm not sure I understand your point, since nothing Martin said is contradicted by this police report.

If anything the police report seems to lend validity to the idea that there was a noteworthy and mysterious incident.

Perhaps it's as simple as questioning related to Buzzy's missing clothes, but it neither confirms nor denies the rumor of the entire animatronic being stolen. What it does confirm is that something happened that's put Buzzy at the center of a backstage incident, and that Disney feels the need to investigate.

Well.

It transpires it was an unauthorised removal.

Given the sensitivity and nature of the ongoing topic I’m not going to post details. Or names.

Doesn't sound like "case closed" to me.
 

My95cobras

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Facts:
1. What was posted is a charging affidavit, not a police report.
2. If the case was closed, you would be able to walk into ocso and request the report... the entire thing and any cases attached to it...
3. They had a warrant for the phone. They were seizing it. Refusing to give it to them is a ‘resisting without violence ‘ charge. Also commonly known as obstructing justice or basically not following a lawful order from a LEO.

opinion:
If they are taking the time to get warrants for homes and phones, they are investigating more than a $600 set of buzzys clothes. Might be several thefts or one large theft. Warrants are a pain in the Asshol.

I suggest a local go to ocso and request a copy of the report . You have a the case number..

On a side note @marni1971 is awesome! I’ve watched every video. Some 10 times. Amazing! I request a full mr toad and a full haunted mansion please!!!
 
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flynnibus

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Facts:
1. What was posted is a charging affidavit, not a police report.
2. If the case was closed, you would be able to walk into ocso and request the report... the entire thing and any cases attached to it...
3. They had a warrant for the phone. They were seizing it. Refusing to give it to them is a ‘resisting without violence ‘ charge. Also commonly known as obstructing justice or basically not following a lawful order from a LEO.

opinion:
If they are taking the time to get warrants for homes and phones, they are investigating more than a $600 set of buzzys clothes. Might be several thefts or one large theft. Warrants are a pain in the Asshol.

I suggest a local go to ocso and request a copy of the report . You have a the case number..

On a side note @marni1971 is awesome! I’ve watched every video. Some 10 times. Amazing! I request a full mr toad and a full haunted mansion please!!!

Thx for posting... makes it much easier to understand the charge.. and made me go look it up too. Since people were saying in lay terms 'resisting arrest' - the real charge is 'resisting an officer' and is much more inline with the situation outlined in the paperwork.

For others.. the actual charge is statue 840.02
843.02 Resisting officer without violence to his or her person.—Whoever shall resist, obstruct, or oppose any officer as defined in s. 943.10(1), (2), (3), (6), (7), (8), or (9); member of the Florida Commission on Offender Review or any administrative aide or supervisor employed by the commission; county probation officer; parole and probation supervisor; personnel or representative of the Department of Law Enforcement; or other person legally authorized to execute process in the execution of legal process or in the lawful execution of any legal duty, without offering or doing violence to the person of the officer, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

So basically he doesn't comply with the orders... they charge and arrest him.. I guess as a way to keep him detained while they worked on more search warrants (?). It would be interesting to hear if they really had the warrant for the phone prior to the interview, or if they were claiming it as on his person, in the open, and for evidence.

And as you say... maybe there is a chain of incidents they are investigating. That would make sense (IMO) to target serial backstage offenders as people of interest.
 

s8film40

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Speaking of the phone since that appears to be the cause for resisting. I find it interesting that the report contradicts itself.

The report claims that he stated he was leaving and took his phone. This seems perfectly reasonable to me for someone who’s there voluntarily and decided they no longer wanted to participate. Then the officer states he told him they were keeping his phone. At this point it says he picked up his phone. If he had already taken his phone how did he take it again. Maybe the video would clarify what’s going on here or maybe the officer made a mistake when writing the report.
 
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