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Buying tickets on Ebay?
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isitingood
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I know this because of the previous comment you made, you didn't prove anything
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isitingood
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Someone with 100% feedback and has sold more then 4,000 items wouldn't try and sell a used key card
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slappy magoo
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Well, like I said before, if the passes ARE completely unused, it makes me wonder where the seller is getting them. Perhaps it's none of my business to know, but when you consider the fact that Disney never really offers huge ticket-only discounts (package discounts like free dining, sure, or deep room discounts with annual passports, but not discounts just on tickets), the fact that this cat has tickets he's willing to let go on ebay makes me mildly curious. Because otherwise, how can he make a profit off of them?
I'm racking my brain trying to come up with possible scenarios. Here's what I got...
1: He's preying on people who buy passes intending to go on vacation, only to then have to cancel their vacation, and a sudden need for quick cash necessitates selling their passes for pennies on the dollar
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2: He himself is going to time-share promotion to time-share promotion, the ones where they give you passes to WDW in exchange for sitting on the promotion. If I lived in the Orlando area, I could be tempted on my day off to sit in on 3 or 4 different 2-hour time-share presentations in exchange for tickets I could then sell off of ebay. Don't know how logical or feasible it is.
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3: He works for a company that gives tickets to WDW to employees as a perk, and instead of using them, he sells them.
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4: He's getting them in less-than-reputable ways.
In any event, I know I wouldn't want to risk buying my tickets off of ebay, no matter the source, no matter if they're unused passes or not (I've bought things off of ebay before, but after one bad purchase-with someone with a high customer service rating, BTW-I've limited myself to smaller items that won't break my personal bank account). As I originally said earlier in the thread, if someone wants to do it, more power to 'em, but I'd seriously recommend having the cash necessary to buy new tickets handy, just in case something goes wrong.
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isitingood
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And like I said before everyone is different some people will agree with you while others will not. According to my friend the people who are leaving feedback seem pleased with his services as he also has repeat customers, so I really don't know where the seller is getting these tickets. What kind of tickets do those timeshares sell?
Are they park hoppers?
How many days?
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slappy magoo
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Seems like most time-share companies offer 2 one-day passes per person willing to sit through the pitch. But the pitch is also usually tied to some kind of weekend stay at a discount. Like, 3 days and 2 nights for $79, sit through the pitch, and the passes are free. After all, what good is the pitch if you don't actually stay at the resort and see what you're missing?
Soooo, in retrospect, it probably wouldn't be that strong of a money-making venture. Even just for extra-income.
You know, the more I think of this particular high-feedback ebay seller, the more I really want to know how he/she gets so many tickets, and at such a discount, that he/she can sell them at a deep discount on ebay. It just seems shadier and shadier. Maybe it's not shady, but I'm just really curious as to how there's profit in this.
Soooo, in retrospect, it probably wouldn't be that strong of a money-making venture. Even just for extra-income.
You know, the more I think of this particular high-feedback ebay seller, the more I really want to know how he/she gets so many tickets, and at such a discount, that he/she can sell them at a deep discount on ebay. It just seems shadier and shadier. Maybe it's not shady, but I'm just really curious as to how there's profit in this.
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isitingood
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I agree I don't think it would be worth it to sit through the time share pitch. The thing is I'm sure this seller isn't the only one doing it. I also see quite of bit of used tickets on Ebay which is suppose to be illegal like 4 day park hoppers with 2 days remaining I told Ebay about them and within 10 min. Ebay pulled them off. I don't blame you for feeling that way because I am wondering also where these people are getting these tickets.
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slappy magoo
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Yeah, but at this point, it's two separate issues for me. Partially used tickets and unused tickets.
The majority viewpoint of people in this thread regarding partially used tickets seems to be: It's illegal, and there's no way to tell if you got what you paid for until it's too late, and no recompense if yout screwed, it's a double-edged sword, don't do it.
But when it comes to selling new tickets online, whether this guy is the only guy or there are a few sellers out there or many sellers out there, the question seems to be-where are these guys getting tickets at such a discount they can sell them at auction? Are they getting them legitimately? If so, how? And if not, are you, as a potential buyer, running a risk of getting hosed in any way? (Your friend notwithstanding, I'm talking about a risk, not a certainty, of being schnookered)
Aside from those possible off-the-top-of-my-head examples I listed before, I can't think of a way one guy can legitimately get his hands on lots of tickets cheap. And even getting your hands on them legitimately, and getting rid of them legitimately (or ethically) is what I question.
Here's the sort of crap I imagine- all those cheap passes are being given (or sold at a drastically-reduced rate) to groups or charities to help people who normally otherwise wouldn't be able to afford to go to WDW. Make-A-Wish type organizations. Inner-city day-camp type organizations. And someone within those types of organizations is skimming some of those tickets as they come in. Or they've managed to convince WDW they run an organization of their own like that and get the tickets directly. After all, Disney is probably more worried about copyright infringement and bootlegged DVDs than whether a couple of dozen or hundred tickets to the parks they they've probably written off as a tax decution anyway get misused. But if they only write off "X" amount of tickets a year, and people who are supposed to get tickets like them don't because of scammers, it angers up my increasingly aging blood.
The majority viewpoint of people in this thread regarding partially used tickets seems to be: It's illegal, and there's no way to tell if you got what you paid for until it's too late, and no recompense if yout screwed, it's a double-edged sword, don't do it.
But when it comes to selling new tickets online, whether this guy is the only guy or there are a few sellers out there or many sellers out there, the question seems to be-where are these guys getting tickets at such a discount they can sell them at auction? Are they getting them legitimately? If so, how? And if not, are you, as a potential buyer, running a risk of getting hosed in any way? (Your friend notwithstanding, I'm talking about a risk, not a certainty, of being schnookered)
Aside from those possible off-the-top-of-my-head examples I listed before, I can't think of a way one guy can legitimately get his hands on lots of tickets cheap. And even getting your hands on them legitimately, and getting rid of them legitimately (or ethically) is what I question.
Here's the sort of crap I imagine- all those cheap passes are being given (or sold at a drastically-reduced rate) to groups or charities to help people who normally otherwise wouldn't be able to afford to go to WDW. Make-A-Wish type organizations. Inner-city day-camp type organizations. And someone within those types of organizations is skimming some of those tickets as they come in. Or they've managed to convince WDW they run an organization of their own like that and get the tickets directly. After all, Disney is probably more worried about copyright infringement and bootlegged DVDs than whether a couple of dozen or hundred tickets to the parks they they've probably written off as a tax decution anyway get misused. But if they only write off "X" amount of tickets a year, and people who are supposed to get tickets like them don't because of scammers, it angers up my increasingly aging blood.
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isitingood
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I agree like I said before never buy used theme park tickets from anyone including Ebay because you don't know many days are left on the ticket if any. My guess is that this seller is a broker of somekind where the seller is getting these tickets I don't know. The seller could be getting the tickets from an international company because Disney gives more of a discount to international companies then to companies like AAA or timeshares. Theme park ticket fraud is a multimillion-dollar business with the ticket prices the way they are you will always find people trying to take advantage of the system.
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But your statement was.....
Which I asked you how you were so sure....which you have not answered yet.
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isitingood
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Anyone who is regular seller with over 4,000 items sold would not make a statement like you did, that's how I know
BTW you still haven't proved anything
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slappy magoo
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Actually, no offense, I don't see it either. hakunamatata never said how many items he's sold, just that he has 100% positive feedback. So unless you know the email address or ebay handle he uses on ebay (or are assuming NOBODY can have 100% positive feedback unles they've only sold a few items), you'd have no way of knowing how many items he's sold either.
EDIT: By the time I typed my post, you had responded to his original question. However, the logic is still specious.
I'm not saying hakuna has thousands of items sold on ebay, I'm just saying you have no real proof, only a feeling. You may be right, just without evidence.
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slappy magoo
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I edited my earlier response to reflect that I was typing my post while you had already posted.
Don't think I'm picking on you or insulting you or anything, but hakuna is right, your statement IS unsubstantiated.
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