"Budget Cuts" - Now Showing at Disney's Hollywood Studios

durangojim

Well-Known Member
I regularly stay at French Quarter and the customer service is outstanding in every aspect. I've stayed at all of the All Star resorts, Caribbean Beach and Wilderness Lodge and can think of two examples, one at All Star Music and one at CB, where I've been unhappy with the customer service that I and my family received.
I think that's great! Rarely do we have poor service, it's just that the service we receive isn't often outstanding which for us it used to be. Also this is all subjective.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Two new rides open in seven to eight months, maybe even sooner.

We've been watching the construction of TSL and both SWLs and there is no slippage visible. In fact, all evidence points to TSL being ahead of schedule.

There is nothing to suggest that there will slippage except for the inextinguishable hatred you hold for Disney and post about obsessively on a Disney fan site.

Well, unless you're working there and monitoring the feet of all workers, you cannot definitively say that there's been no slippage and no one has slipped with all that dirt being moved around. :hilarious:

Sorry, I had to. ;) I need some humor today to counteract all of the stupidity I'm encountering at work.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
DHS needs capacity until new lands built, GMR provided capacity

Now the closed GMR will sit closed till what 2020-2021, If the new ride were scheduled for 2018 different story, but under the current schedule its impossible to characterize as anything other than a budget cut.
Nobody is arguing that DHS doesn't need capacity now. Closing nearly half the park at the same time to build new stuff was IMHO a foolish plan but it has little to do with cutting costs in 2017. If GMR sat idle for several years before construction started then you might have a case but not if they open the new ride in 2019 as scheduled. They closed it now so they would have enough time to finish the new ride for the SWL push not to cut current operating costs.

...of course its hard to argue logic with someone who still believes SW Land isn't actually being built in FL or at least will be delayed 5 years;)
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
In my experience (~50 visits in the past 20 years always staying at one of WDW's hotels) the quality of the interactions with CM's has declined on average. There still have been exceptions and exceptional service, but on average it is less. This is not to say it's bad but when considering the cost paid at the deluxes I would expect better. I realize we're mostly paying for location but at the hotels the service from the CMs has definitely declined.

Yes there are still exceptional CM's who give great service but sadly they are the exeception not the rule any longer
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Nobody is arguing that DHS doesn't need capacity now. Closing nearly half the park at the same time to build new stuff was IMHO a foolish plan but it has little to do with cutting costs in 2017. If GMR sat idle for several years before construction started then you might have a case but not if they open the new ride in 2019 as scheduled. They closed it now so they would have enough time to finish the new ride for the SWL push not to cut current operating costs.

...of course its hard to argue logic with someone who still believes SW Land isn't actually being built in FL or at least will be delayed 5 years;)

Yeah, right believe what you want to but DHS STILL has profit targets to make and shutting down an expensive ride helps them make those targets during construction.

The ideal situation would be close DHS for 12-18 months. Reallocate the permanent Disney CM's to other parks and cut back the CP'ers to open slots for them.

But TDO is too cheap to do this.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Yeah, right believe what you want to but DHS STILL has profit targets to make and shutting down an expensive ride helps them make those targets during construction.

The ideal situation would be close DHS for 12-18 months. Reallocate the permanent Disney CM's to other parks and cut back the CP'ers to open slots for them.

But TDO is too cheap to do this.
So why not close GMR 6 months ago or even 2 years ago? It wasn't free to run then either and they always had targets to hit. If they close a ride or attraction and the building just sits and rots then it's most likely cost cuttting. When they close a ride or attraction to replace it with another ride or attraction the cost savings during construction are an ancillary benefit but it's highly unlikely that it was a driver of the decision. That seems pretty basic to me.
 

Kman101

Well-Known Member
Yeah, right believe what you want to but DHS STILL has profit targets to make and shutting down an expensive ride helps them make those targets during construction.

The ideal situation would be close DHS for 12-18 months. Reallocate the permanent Disney CM's to other parks and cut back the CP'ers to open slots for them.

But TDO is too cheap to do this.

That's not at all realistic.
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
Two new rides open in seven to eight months, maybe even sooner.

We've been watching the construction of TSL and both SWLs and there is no slippage visible. In fact, all evidence points to TSL being ahead of schedule.

There is nothing to suggest that there will slippage except for the inextinguishable hatred you hold for Disney and post about obsessively on a Disney fan site.
That's 7-8 months the GMR should have remained open.

I'm the biggest Disney apologist here, but DHS is a joke right now.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
That's 7-8 months the GMR should have remained open.

I'm the biggest Disney apologist here, but DHS is a joke right now.

But if work on M&MR didn't start until then, then it will not have been open in time for the SW:GE opening. With huge crowds in the park and hours wait to get into SWGE, people would have been just as angry that they waited too long to start work on M&MR since it wouldn't be open to soak up the crowds.

Also, it was in increasingly worse shape and they certainly weren't going to spend money to fix anything that breaks. Then Disney would have been vilified for offering such a broken experience.

DIYDDIYD
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
That's 7-8 months the GMR should have remained open.

I'm the biggest Disney apologist here, but DHS is a joke right now.
I agree with this. I know they wanted to have Mickey open the same year as SW Land but maybe they should have either delayed the start of construction until Toy Story Land opened and fast tracked construction (if that's possible) or picked a different location.
 

Kman101

Well-Known Member
That's 7-8 months the GMR should have remained open.

I'm the biggest Disney apologist here, but DHS is a joke right now.

So now we're criticizing them for actually getting moving on a project? (And no I don't agree they should have waited, but I do think it should have been a new build and GMR shouldn't have closed but what's done is done).

This thread ... lol
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
So now we're criticizing them for actually getting moving on a project? (And no I don't agree they should have waited, but I do think it should have been a new build and GMR shouldn't have closed but what's done is done).

This thread ... lol
I actually think it's a valid point. There should have been a bare minimum level of attractions they wouldn't go under and I believe we crossed that point with the closing of GMR. I know it's less than a year before something new opens but it's still poor show for Disney to leave the park the way it is for 6 to 8 months.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
...or really uniformed. I bet some people walk in not knowing that half the park is a construction site.
The thing is that if someone has never been there unlike many of us that pick and choose what they are going to see. They can make a day out of it. The shows, the rides the restaurants, Fantasmic show. All can make a day out of it. Tot, RnRC, Muppets, Indy, TSM, Star Tours, the street shows that still exist. Whatever, the reason if they pay $100.00 for the day, they know something about the park and have a target of "must see's" in mind. I don't believe that someone that decides to go for just one day hasn't done some kind of questioning. Therefore, I also don't believe that there are very many single day tickets sold at DHS.
 
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