Brother Bear???

[Disney_Belle]

Brother Bear, though I know there will be disagreements, in my opinion, was a wonderful movie. I loved it! I had heard something that DCA has a Brother Bear attraction of some sort but has anyone heard of WDW doing something with this movie? I think they could make some sort of attraction from this movie that would be enjoyable for families. Maybe at AK :veryconfu ??? I think it would fit well in there

 

[longfamily]

Brother Bear was classic storytelling and a good story at that. Most of the failure of brother bear came from the techniques used in animation. Many people were disappointed and unimpressed that Disney went back to 2D "old style" animation for this film. There were no modern techniques used such as Deep Canvass that was developed for Tarzan. I suppose that the animation was to bland for people considering the technological advances made for animation over the last decade. In other words, I believe that the general attitude was that this was a cheap film designed to create a quick profit for Disney. I personally believe that Disney created this film with basic animation on purpose because it is truely representative of what was done up until the late 80's. I don't think they went cheaper, I think that they tried traditional and the plan was not as well recieved as they would have liked. It is clear that Brother Bear was a very well planned out story so I question the idea that it was just thrown out there in the hopes that it would turn a profit.

There have been rumors that a Brother Bear attraction would be best suited for a river ride in Canada (epcot). Perhaps this was on the drawing boards. I know that there has been a thread about this in the past if you care to search for it. As of right now though, I doubt that a new attraction would be themed after Brother Bear because it wasn't widely popular.

 

[DisneyFan 2000]

I actually thought the animation was some of the best I've seen in recent years. . . I really like the traditional look. They actually managed to make it look so real even though nearly no CGI effects were used.

I do think a BB ride would be popular. It may not have been a major blockbuster but the potential for a ride is huge!

 

[Disney_Belle]

Brother Bear was classic storytelling and a good story at that. Most of the failure of brother bear came from the techniques used in animation. Many people were disappointed and unimpressed that Disney went back to 2D "old style" animation for this film. There were no modern techniques used such as Deep Canvass that was developed for Tarzan. I suppose that the animation was to bland for people considering the technological advances made for animation over the last decade. In other words, I believe that the general attitude was that this was a cheap film designed to create a quick profit for Disney. I personally believe that Disney created this film with basic animation on purpose because it is truely representative of what was done up until the late 80's. I don't think they went cheaper, I think that they tried traditional and the plan was not as well recieved as they would have liked. It is clear that Brother Bear was a very well planned out story so I question the idea that it was just thrown out there in the hopes that it would turn a profit.

There have been rumors that a Brother Bear attraction would be best suited for a river ride in Canada (epcot). Perhaps this was on the drawing boards. I know that there has been a thread about this in the past if you care to search for it. As of right now though, I doubt that a new attraction would be themed after Brother Bear because it wasn't widely popular.

I love the classic animation. I went to school and studied it to become an animator for Disney. But now that the classic hand drawn is not as popular as it used to be, I dont know. BB was an amazing movie with an amazing concept. I did do some computer animation but to me, I feel there is so much more meaning to the hand drawn because it takes so much time. I guess not everyone can appreciate that :brick: but anyways, I think brother bear would make for a great attraction, regardless if it is a show or a ride of some sort. it t ook a lot of thought to go into this movie

 

[Laura]

Wow a River Ride in Canada would be so neat!!!

I honestly haven't sat down and watched the whole movie straight through yet. My 3 year old loves it though. We have tons of stuffed brother bear things and the little action figures.

 

[phichi17]

My daughter loved the movie, and I must admit I enjoyed it too. The style of animation used was "old school" and IMHO lent itself to less popularity because of it. Sad to see that a good story like this was generally overlooked by the mass public because of the medium used to tell it. I guess it's (CGI etc...) what sells nowadays. People, it seems, are more into a quick thrill than a deep (so to speak) experience.

Post #100...:sohappy:

 

[longfamily]

I'm not so sure that people prefer 3D animation to traditional animation as much as they prefer "interesting" animation. As has been debated before in other threads, hand drawns and computer animation are really two different animals and should be approached as such. The popularity of 3D animation is largely because it is interesting to watch. This was true of Atlantis and Tarzan as well because although traditional methods were used, so was CGI. I guess the term I'm looking for is "eye candy". While BB was really enjoyed by children, many adults were bored by it or didn't go see it altogether because the theatrical trailer for the film didn't look "interesting" enough to them. It didn't show any pizzaz, therefore it wasn't worthy of their attention. This is the same attitude that some people take when watching a tip sheet movie as opposed to watching Kubric. But, BB did serve as a test for the future of Disney films. With the failure of this film, it allowed Disney to find out where to go with aimation in the future. This film was proof that animated film must be interesting in storyline as well as interseting animation techniques. Storyline can no longer be the selling point of the film itself. I'm curious to see what the future of hand drawns will be.

 

[DisneyFan 2000]

With the failure of this film, it allowed Disney to find out where to go with aimation in the future. This film was proof that animated film must be interesting in storyline as well as interseting animation techniques. Storyline can no longer be the selling point of the film itself. I'm curious to see what the future of hand drawns will be.

^ I disagree. In my opinion Disney just achieved what they wanted to achieve, meaning, they wanted animation gone and it didn't matter what the out-come would be. Brother Bear to my knowledge has made profits of over 300 million dollars. Here in Israel it's the most popular Disney movie ever, as well as in Germany. Disney saw this as a flop because they wanted it to be one. In my book a movie that makes a profit can't really be called a flop or a failure for that matter. Just look at Fantasia. It flopped big time, but to this day remains a timeless classic known by many. Not a failure in my book.

Think about it. :animwink:

 

[Cynderella]

I thought Brother Bear was ok. I LOVED the moose in it and I think they made the whole movie but I also think that it had a very good story for the younger ones. I am a fan of the "old school" animation. The Pixar stuff is cool but I like the traditional animation. It's more Disney to me. I actually really like the old old animation of Cinderella and Sword in the Stone. I like how they are darker. But thats just my opinion of course

 

[Pixie Duster]

I love this movie. I feel that it should have been the movie to close out traditional animation, NOT Home on the Range :barf:. I feel that we definately need a dark ride in WDW, especially in Animal Kingdom.

 

[barnum42]

I feel that we definately need a dark ride in WDW, especially in Animal Kingdom.

Dinosaur is pretty dark :lol:

 

[ClemsonTigger]

You're a piece of work Barnum :lol:

While a Canada flume ride has been discussed here (other threads, as part of a mountain range to cover up Soarin), I think the thought started and ended here at Magic. I have not heard any reputable discussion, even blue sky about anything Brother Bear, although I agree with many here that it would fit well.

In addition to "hit or not" rating the movie, Disney looks at secondary marketability and I would say that BB does not provide much. They are pushing Stitch now, and at Epcot Figment remains a focus. Just don't see the tie in's at a place like WL or at AK for BB. They also usually want a group (there is also another thread about this aspect of Disney marketing) of characters to push...and all I can remember is Koda...

 

[General Grizz]

I love this movie. I feel that it should have been the movie to close out traditional animation, NOT Home on the Range :barf:. I feel that we definately need a dark ride in WDW, especially in Animal Kingdom.

I agree. True heart came from WDWFA.

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