Breaking: Star Wars Ep VII Release Date Out

IowaHawks7

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G00fyDad said:
I'm excited to see what Disney does without Lucas. Much respect for the man since I doubt I would have had the drive and determination to go through what he did to make the "Empire" of Lucasfilms what it is today, but he effed the franchise up as a director.
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Lucas is involved in the movie, as a "Creative Consultant", he had the ideas that he wanted the movies to go in before he sold to Disney. He is just not involved in the directing, writing or producing of the film. He may be an Executive Producer but don't quote me on that. He is basically there if Disney has any questions about the universe for him.
 
G00fyDad

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moconnell57 said:
Lucas is involved in the movie, as a "Creative Consultant", he had the ideas that he wanted the movies to go in before he sold to Disney. He is just not involved in the directing, writing or producing of the film. He may be an Executive Producer but don't quote me on that. He is basically there if Disney has any questions about the universe for him.
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As it should be. He is a good filmmaker, but he should only be "creative consultant" on these, at best.
 
G00fyDad

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PeterAlt said:
How? A New Hope was directed very well. Phantom Menace not so well because his directing skills were rusty because he hadn't directed anything in the time period in between. By Attack of the Clones, his knack for directing was beginning to come back, and he was back at it when Revenge of the Sith came along.

He could have had help with the dialog during then scripting of TPM and AOC because those two have the weakest dialog, in my opinion. He actually did seek help during the writing of TPM. He took his completed screen play to oscar screen play writer Frank Darabont (Shawshank Redemption) and asked him to script doctor it. After Darabont read it, he handed it back to Lucas and told him that he didn't see a single thing in it that needed to be changed or fixed. In retrospect, he was either lying to Lucas or he was too busy with his own work to do this favor for Lucas which he wasn't being paid for.
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You thought RotS was good? o_O
 
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Ignohippo

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Interesting timing. It says to me that they want to sell toys before anyone actually sees it (which sends up all kinds of red flags).

I would think, if they think is going to a big hit with families, that they'd want it out there well before the Christmas season so little Jimmy would be asking for Star Wars toys under the tree. Putting it out the week of Christmas tells me they don't think kids are going to be too excited by it once they see it. Scary.
 
lebeau

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willtravel said:
I'll miss J.J. Abrams no longer directing Star Trek movies.
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Abrams leaving Star Trek is my favorite thing about Star Wars VII

moconnell57 said:
Lucas is involved in the movie, as a "Creative Consultant", he had the ideas that he wanted the movies to go in before he sold to Disney. He is just not involved in the directing, writing or producing of the film. He may be an Executive Producer but don't quote me on that. He is basically there if Disney has any questions about the universe for him.
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He's basically there to put his name on it, cash a check and assure everyone that whatever Abrams and company come up with is canon.
Arewethereyet! said:
WOW!....so this gives the Star Wars community over a year to froth at the mouth. Talk about hype. I hope it is fantastic.....a rebirth of the franchise. As we here on the blue pages like to say.....they better go big.....or go home. If they hit it out of the park with the SW faithful.....Disney could become the new Fed.....they can start printing their own money.
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I am not about to bet against Star Wars VII. But I'm already sick of all the hyperbole. Star Wars VII could be the biggest disappointment since The Phantom Menace. Realistically, the level of anticipation can not possible exceed what it was in 1999. We had all waited 16 years for new Star Wars and it was finally here!

I'm sure, good or bad, Disney's going to make some money off these movies. But there's no such thing as a sure bet. It is well within Disney's power to screw Star Wars up badly.

Fanboys need to stop drooling so damn much. We're gonna need to mop these floors for the next two years at the rate you guys are going.
 
lebeau

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Ignohippo said:
Interesting timing. It says to me that they want to sell toys before anyone actually sees it (which sends up all kinds of red flags).

I would think, if they think is going to a big hit with families, that they'd want it out there well before the Christmas season so little Jimmy would be asking for Star Wars toys under the tree. Putting it out the week of Christmas tells me they don't think kids are going to be too excited by it once they see it. Scary.
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I suspect everyone involved would have preferred a summer release date. The usual Star Wars weekend in May would have been ideal. But there was no way Abrams and company were going to hit that release date without seriously compromising the quality of the movie. And considering the quality of Star Trek into Darkness, I don't even want to consider what that would have meant.

So I applaud Disney for pushing back to December. But really, that was a compromise. Summer 2016 would likely have been better. There's still a good chance this movie will start filming with an unfinished script which rarely leads to anything halfway decent. Fingers crossed they pull it off.

Of course even if they do Disney's going to flood the market with mediocre Star Wars cr@p until even the fanboys are sick of it.
 
AndyMagic

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This release date is a foolish compromise between the studio and the producers and even a late 2015 release date is far too aggressive for a film of this magnitude with no finished script and no official cast. Dating films far into the future with no evidence that it will make the date has become a habit of all the major studios lately. It's turned into a meaningless game of planting a flag in the ground and announcing, "this date is mine." Disney is by far the worst offender. Anyone have plans for November 21st, 2018? Well mark your calendars and change your dinner plans because Walt Disney Pictures has officially slated, "Untitled Disney Animation Project" to be released on that exact date. They don't know the plot, the characters, the budget, the title, the director, the actors, or the writers but the studio decided that was a good release date for a film so they arbitrarily put out a press release about it. Mark my words, Episode VII won't make this release date.
 
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Ignohippo

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lebeau said:
I suspect everyone involved would have preferred a summer release date. The usual Star Wars weekend in May would have been ideal. But there was no way Abrams and company were going to hit that release date without seriously compromising the quality of the movie. And considering the quality of Star Trek into Darkness, I don't even want to consider what that would have meant.

So I applaud Disney for pushing back to December. But really, that was a compromise. Summer 2016 would likely have been better. There's still a good chance this movie will start filming with an unfinished script which rarely leads to anything halfway decent. Fingers crossed they pull it off.

Of course even if they do Disney's going to flood the market with mediocre Star Wars cr@p until even the fanboys are sick of it.
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Just a few weeks earlier would have said a lot as far as merchandising goes. I'm sure they worked hard to calculate what date would be the best for company-wide sales. Coming out the week of Christmas is really bad if they think it'll be a home run with kids.

This sound like a Trojan Horse to me. Get everyone to get excited about it, have parents purchase a ton of merch for under the tree, then put the movie out at a time when it's too late to come up with plan B because little Jimmy didn't like the movie (or probably hadn't had a chance to see it yet) and doesn't want SW toys after all.

It makes me wonder if Luke dies in the first one to set up the events in VIII and IX and they're worried people are going to be upset about it.
 
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AndyMagic said:
This release date is a foolish compromise between the studio and the producers and even a late 2015 release date is far too aggressive for a film of this magnitude with no finished script and no official cast. Dating films far into the future with no evidence that it will make the date has become a habit of all the major studios lately. It's turned into a meaningless game of planting a flag in the ground and announcing, "this date is mine." Disney is by far the worst offender. Anyone have plans for November 21st, 2008? Well mark your calendars and change your dinner plans because Walt Disney Pictures has officially slated, "Untitled Disney Animation Project" to be released on that exact date. They don't know the plot, the characters, the budget, the title, the director, the actors, or the writers but the studio decided that was a good release date for a film so they arbitrarily put out a press release about it. Mark my words, Episode VII won't make this release date.
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You are completely right. It's especially ridiculous considering how much relies on this flick. It has implications across the entire company for decades to come.

They won't miss this date though.
 
G00fyDad

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AndyMagic said:
This release date is a foolish compromise between the studio and the producers and even a late 2015 release date is far too aggressive for a film of this magnitude with no finished script and no official cast. Dating films far into the future with no evidence that it will make the date has become a habit of all the major studios lately. It's turned into a meaningless game of planting a flag in the ground and announcing, "this date is mine." Disney is by far the worst offender. Anyone have plans for November 21st, 2018? Well mark your calendars and change your dinner plans because Walt Disney Pictures has officially slated, "Untitled Disney Animation Project" to be released on that exact date. They don't know the plot, the characters, the budget, the title, the director, the actors, or the writers but the studio decided that was a good release date for a film so they arbitrarily put out a press release about it. Mark my words, Episode VII won't make this release date.
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It takes years to make an animated film. Just because Disney has not told you the name of the film and is calling it an Untitled Disney Animation Project does not mean they have nothing done on the movie yet. They likely have the story completed and are in the beginning stages of development. Is it sort of ridiculous to nail down such a specific date this far out? Yes, but that hardly means they have no work completed on the project.
 
AndyMagic

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Ignohippo said:
You are completely right. It's especially ridiculous considering how much relies on this flick. It has implications across the entire company for decades to come.

They won't miss this date though.
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Major Hollywood blockbusters have a long history of missing their release dates due to intensive post-production. Titanic was delayed by almost a year, World War Z was pushed back countless times, Star Trek Into Darkness missed two release dates given by Paramount, 47 Ronin missed its February 2012 release date and will finally be released this Christmas, nearly two years later than planned. Mind you, all those examples I gave had perfectly reasonable release schedules based on the state of production at the time of the announcements and they still didn't come close to finishing on time. This random release date given for Episode VII is essentially meaningless.
 
AndyMagic

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G00fyDad said:
It takes years to make an animated film. Just because Disney has not told you the name of the film and is calling it an Untitled Disney Animation Project does not mean they have nothing done on the movie yet. They likely have the story completed and are in the beginning stages of development. Is it sort of ridiculous to nail down such a specific date this far out? Yes, but that hardly means they have no work completed on the project.
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Nearly all the major studios have animated films in the works as well as thousands of live-action scripts in pre-production but they aren't putting out press releases announcing a release date for them. It's strictly a maneuvering tactic and nothing more. Disney might have an idea of what this mystery movie scheduled for 2018 will be about but it certainly isn't at a stage where a date should be set. Even animated films go through drastic development changes. Remember The Emperor's New Groove?
 

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