News Bob Iger outlines the need to transform the Walt Disney Company resulting in 7000 job losses and $5.5 billion in cost savings

Tony the Tigger

Well-Known Member
I think a number of people here are being a little dramatic. These are not massive layoffs when you consider they are company-wide between, what, 200,000 people? This is not your favorite CM at WDW.

This is how companies fix themselves. This is life.

You want to eliminate parking fees at the resorts? You want CMs to get a raise? The cost has to come from somewhere. The world, even The World, is not a utopia.
 

TP2000

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When Iger recently visited WDW it was smiles and photos ops. No one probably had a clue that layoffs would follow.

Well, any salaried CM from a tenured senior TDO exec on down to the 25 year old Tomorrowland Terrace assistant manager who has to iron his own Dockers before his shift would be dumb to not know layoffs were coming.

Most of us have been talking about the layoffs since Bob Chapek announced them in November. And Iger didn't do a thing to reverse that statement when the coup happened shortly thereafter.

November 11th, 2022:

Then the Burbank Coup of '22 happened, and Iger returned. But he didn't reverse any of Chapek's recent cost cutting statements. In fact, Iger confirmed that layoffs were still being worked on for quick implementation.

November 29th, 2022:

That brings us ten weeks later, after the senior executive teams for all divisions spent their Christmas vacations plotting layoff numbers and meeting reduced staffing goals. How could anyone not know layoffs were happening? They had three months to prepare.

February 9th, 2023:
 

co10064

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Premium Member
Suggesting that the "mainstream" news won't report on things is feeding into the very political idea that there's a conspiracy where the powers that be are controlling what information you receive and that you need to seek out "alternative" news sources or "do your own research" to find the actual facts.
I'm sorry, but that's a reach. My post wasn't political at all.

Nothing in what I wrote implied that I believe "an elite media is hiding facts from us." I was simply stating that the very nature that Disney (and countless other companies) are laying off thousands is because the economy isn't at 100%—whether anyone likes it or not.

"Mainstream media" is not a political term. It simply means "major news outlet." Just check out this survey by Pew Research:

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You and others are projecting politics that aren't there.

And thanks for calling me a conspiracy theorist. 🙄
 
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Alanzo

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I'm sorry, but that's a reach. My post wasn't political at all.

Nothing in what I wrote implied that I believe "an elite media is hiding facts from us." I was simply stating that the very nature that Disney (and countless other companies) are laying off thousands is because the economy isn't at 100%—whether anyone likes it or not.

"Mainstream media" is not a political term. It simply means "major news outlet." Just check out this survey by Pew Research:

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You and others are projecting politics that aren't there.

And thanks for calling me a conspiracy theorist. 🙄

Here, I added back this commentary that you failed to include from Pew's own writeup describing the graphic you just shared. I have also included screenshots of the links provided in the same Pew source you just shared that refer to politically critical views of mainstream media.

This should clear things up as to where I was coming from. Not exactly a reach to assume someone using the exact same phrasing is coming up with a similar, politics-driven critique in the same vein.

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co10064

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Here, I added back this commentary that you failed to include from Pew's own writeup describing the graphic you just shared. I have also included screenshots of the links provided in the same Pew source you just shared that refer to politically critical views of mainstream media. This should clear things up.View attachment 697506
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Once again, my post was not meant to be political. I'm sorry you interpreted it that way.

Just because a term has been used in a political way does not make the term inherently political. It seems a majority of those on this forum disagree with you.
 

Alanzo

Well-Known Member
Once again, my post was not meant to be political. I'm sorry you interpreted it that way.

Just because a term has been used in a political way does not make the term inherently political. It seems a majority of those on this forum disagree with you.
All good! No need to apologize. And I agree that it's totally possible to be critical of the major news outlets and not have it be politically driven.

I just was answering the question of "how could me blaming <<mainstream media>> for <<deliberately misleading the public>> possibly be construed as political?". Even the Pew survey acknowledges that these political critiques have been fermenting for years.

I basically ignore almost all of the major news outlets because they teeter so much in infotainment instead of journalism but I never thought there was this concerted effort to hide certain realities from me.
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
They are a storytelling company lol
Then I wish they'd find less trite and more intentional ways of telling their own company's story.

It's easy to call yourself a storytelling company - most movie studios do it to some extent. The problem arises when your actions chronically reflect that isn't actually much of a priority outside putting positive spin on what you're really invested in.
 

Lilofan

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Well, any salaried CM from a tenured senior TDO exec on down to the 25 year old Tomorrowland Terrace assistant manager who has to iron his own Dockers before his shift would be dumb to not know layoffs were coming.

Most of us have been talking about the layoffs since Bob Chapek announced them in November. And Iger didn't do a thing to reverse that statement when the coup happened shortly thereafter.

November 11th, 2022:

Then the Burbank Coup of '22 happened, and Iger returned. But he didn't reverse any of Chapek's recent cost cutting statements. In fact, Iger confirmed that layoffs were still being worked on for quick implementation.

November 29th, 2022:

That brings us ten weeks later, after the senior executive teams for all divisions spent their Christmas vacations plotting layoff numbers and meeting reduced staffing goals. How could anyone not know layoffs were happening? They had three months to prepare.

February 9th, 2023:
7K layoffs of a team of 200K cast members makes bigger news than Yahoo recently announced layoffs of 20% of company.
 

Tony the Tigger

Well-Known Member
Then I wish they'd find less trite and more intentional ways of telling their own company's story.

It's easy to call yourself a storytelling company - most movie studios do it to some extent. The problem arises when your actions chronically reflect that isn't actually much of a priority outside putting positive spin on what you're really invested in.
Do explain.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
They are a storytelling company lol
Except the term has become a bit of a running joke now…
I think a number of people here are being a little dramatic. These are not massive layoffs when you consider they are company-wide between, what, 200,000 people? This is not your favorite CM at WDW.

This is how companies fix themselves. This is life.

You want to eliminate parking fees at the resorts? You want CMs to get a raise? The cost has to come from somewhere. The world, even The World, is not a utopia.
I think it’s more the 3 years of Covid excuses and talk of their “desperation” to find quality…particularly around parks.

Now that they are “out of Covid”…the slash and burn looks budget
 

Tony the Tigger

Well-Known Member
Except the term has become a bit of a running joke now…

I think it’s more the 3 years of Covid excuses and talk of their “desperation” to find quality…particularly around parks.

Now that they are “out of Covid”…the slash and burn looks budget
I think I’m so over the dripping cynicism.

Covid was real. It really had many different kinds of effects on businesses. Every day counts in business when you have to hit your numbers. There is a fine line between “things are running smoothly” and “things are going down the drain.” It can turn on a few months.

If some extra stuff got cut “for covid reasons” which *maybe* were already eyed for cuts before, guess what - nobody here is some great detective and this is not “gotcha.” This is standard, run of the mill, dog-eat-dog, kill or be killed business.

And frankly, with the internet, people have become privy to information to which they are not entitled, and able to offer opinions with zero basis in expertise or experience - just “feelings.” “I think I know theming better than imagineers.” “I think I should second guess my surgeon’s cuts because mommy told me I’m special and my opinion is valid.” “I think everybody should keep their entry level jobs for double the salary and prices should come down.” “I think it should never rain but crops should grow, anyway.”

This board has often led me to wonder whether the thing that leads us here (love of Disney) more often indicates some of us haven’t grown up.
 

drizgirl

Well-Known Member
I think a number of people here are being a little dramatic. These are not massive layoffs when you consider they are company-wide between, what, 200,000 people? This is not your favorite CM at WDW.

This is how companies fix themselves. This is life.

You want to eliminate parking fees at the resorts? You want CMs to get a raise? The cost has to come from somewhere. The world, even The World, is not a utopia.
How about having it come from those ridiculous executive bonuses?
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
How about having it come from those ridiculous executive bonuses?
Incentive-based compensation is how you make sure that the executives are personally invested in the company's performance. When executive compensation consists primarily of guaranteed salaries instead of bonuses, they're encouraged to phone it in and just collect their paychecks.

Also, 7,000 employees with salary and benefits is something like a billion dollars, with a "b." If the entire C-suite compensation was cut to zero, it wouldn't come anywhere close to billion, with a "b."
 

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