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MrPromey

MrPromey

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portmickey said:
.... The counties would inherit the bond debt but would also inherit all the assets, Fire stations, etc. Including the parking garages at Disney Springs...
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Wonder if that would give them the freedom to do what most municipalities do with parking structures like that.

Or if Disney would have to pay through the nose to keep them free for their retail space.
 
AEfx

AEfx

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MrPromey said:
The ineptetuide with how these three movies were handled with no clear vision, given the parent company and the experience they already had with this kind of thing is just mind-boggling.
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That's why I'm doubly ashamed of what a cheerleader I was when Disney bought Star Wars. It was the perfect marriage in so many ways - Lucasfilm was always battling infrastructure, and Disney had everything in-house to take Star Wars to a new level. I never imagined they would drop the biggest ball their was, the actual sequel movies that everyone was excited about to begin with.

In retrospect, we really should have known this just with TFA - the fact that they had Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford in the same Star Wars picture - yet didn't even give us a single scene with the three of them together was the first red flag. Because, even if FIsher had not passed, they still missed the most major opportunity given that it was known Ford's character wouldn't survive the film.
 
MrPromey

MrPromey

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CaptainAmerica said:
Then why wouldn't Disney be dancing in the streets about this?

(I'm not talking about some automatic trigger, I'm talking about new legislation that would make the counties whole.)
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Because in a lot of cases, they are paying taxes to have stuff done on public land that is for all practical intents and purposes, their own - land they are not paying taxes on because it is public but which is being maintained like private "resort" land.

It's been a great way to get the local "government" to pay for things that only favor Disney, giving them huge benefits in other ways and allowing them to pay for things with government bonds that they'd have had to cough up their own money up front for to get done, otherwise.

It also allows them to get services at a quality and level they never would have gotten as a part of a larger municipality where those services have to be spread a lot further or where officials would lose their jobs for showing the kind of favoritism needed to support the Disney "neighborhood" at the level Disney has become accustomed to.
 
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MrPromey

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flynnibus said:
No, RCID was not predicated on EPCOT alone - it was also because they knew the existing municipalities didn't have the infrastructure or capacity to do everything that even the resort concept was setting up for. So the fact the future city didn't happen really isn't a reason to dissolve RCID or no longer support the concept.
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Yeah, people seem to think Florida government was excited about the EPCOT project.

They really weren't.

Walt agreed to top pigs with pigs (Disneyland east) so that he could get what he wanted for EPCOT.

They were happy to give him Reedy Creek to get the only other Disney theme park in the world, located in sunny Florida.
 
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Trauma

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MickeyLuv'r said:
Luke and Leia were supposed to be true heroes in the sense of the great hero epics, like the Odyssey.



If Iger is going to repair Disney, he needs to focus on great storytelling, and skilled storytellers.
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LOL.

This has about a 0 percent chance of happening.

If he was serious about that a lot more people would have been fired already.
 
SpectreJordan

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TwilightZone said:
I wouldn't really say that entirely.

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Of this list, Soul, Luca, and Turning Red were huge successes. I still see Turning Red memes from the twitter crowd, that amounts to a lot. It seems that the 3 misses: TS4, Onward, and Lightyear were just such huge on how they missed that they overshadow how well the hits turned out. What Pixar needs to work on is more original stories, less Toy Story sequels, and less stories that feel like they were churned out from a machine (Onward, Lightyear).
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I know this post is pretty old now, but I wanted to add to this. I work at one of the resorts & I see kids with Mei Mei plushies/hats all the time. It's definitely a hit with kids; in 10 years we're going to be seeing this young generation tout Turning Red as a classic. I thought it was a nice little movie personally, I didn't love it though.

I also see a decent amount of Lightyear merch too but not as much as Turning Red.
 
lazyboy97o

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MrPromey said:
Yeah, people seem to think Florida government was excited about the EPCOT project.

They really weren't.

Walt agreed to top pigs with pigs (Disneyland east) so that he could get what he wanted for EPCOT.

They were happy to give him Reedy Creek to get the only other Disney theme park in the world, located in sunny Florida.
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It was not just about giving Disney what they wanted. It created a situation in which Disney financed a scale of development work that the counties absolutely could not handle. Florida as a state didn’t start requiring localities to adopt a building code until after Walt Disney World opened, and one of the codes they could adopt was the EPCOT Building Code. Reedy Creek Improvement District gave Disney control of things that Florida didn’t really care too much about controlling and even today does not care too much about controlling (and that includes private control of nuclear power plants). The area the state did become concerned with (water management) is one we all know the state controls because we see the permit applications on the South Florida Water Management District website.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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CaptainAmerica said:
Then why wouldn't Disney be dancing in the streets about this?

(I'm not talking about some automatic trigger, I'm talking about new legislation that would make the counties whole.)
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Wdw won’t rub effectively under typically incompetent local Florida dominion. It’s only there because of the RCID dispensation.

And Florida needs to ST!U…half of that under-equipped state was built due to 50 years of tourist draw to the I-4 corridor

The truth should have this day (and every day)
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Jrb1979 said:
I get it that Disney is a week long vacation and other parks are 2 days max. Blah, blah, blah. I disagree with the whole rhetoric of "selling ride access to people that already bought a rise all day ticket" nonsense. I'm sorry but from day 1 waiting in lines has always been a part of going to ANY PARK in the world.

When I hear these comments I always wonder how do any of manage at other parks when skip the line passes cost more then you ticket?
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You can disagree…but you’d be wrong.

Genie is a virtual queue…not a line skip. As Lazy rightly pointed out 1 billion times…

If it were a line skip as uni’s express pass is…then it would be a different product. What you’re buying at wdw is a set aside slot in the queue…not the freedom to jump on hagrids at a whim instead of going to the bathroom up the road. That is freedom and autonomy and has value.

Wdw eliminated tickets and started doing ride all day in the 80’s. So you have paid for access to the rides…but due to lack of proper reinvestment…by ROBERT A IGER…your paid park ticket allows much less than it was intended to do when the attraction capacity was flexible and not overtaxed all day, every day.

And here we are.

You’ll have to suffer “the nonsense”
 

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