CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
I mean... no. There's no reason to believe that external content creators would be privy to Disney's internal viewership figures.
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News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…wait a second…
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Ironically, I never hear or see anyone in public ever talk about this franchise. LolAvatar 1 made $58M on its recent rerelease. That's a movie that people can easily rewatch in their homes.
Avatar Re-Release Box Office (Worldwide): Creates History By Becoming The 1st Movie To Cross $2.9 Billion!
All eyes are set on a $3 billion mark, which will be possible if the Zoe Saldana movie is able to churn in $100 million.www.koimoi.com
‘Avatar’ Re-Release Pushes Lifetime IMAX Box Office Haul to $268 Million
The long-awaited sequel, 'Avatar: The Way of Water', arrives in theaters this December.collider.com
‘Avatar’ Re-Release Wows With $30 Million at Global Box Office
In anticipation of the sequel "Avatar: The Way of Water," Disney re-released James Cameron's original science-fiction epic.variety.com
AEfx
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That's what I think some folks don't get. Pretty much everything we have gotten parks-wise would have been the same under Iger, it just would have been delivered with more finesse. To think that this stuff wasn't already in the pipeline is silly talk. I'm rather confident that even the pandemic changes were just accelerated - it has been Disney's dream to have park reservations/etc., they just finally had an excuse to roll it out.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Lake Nona and Magical Express, I think. Maybe the shift from single-park EMH to every-park EMHH (which I personally like).
But pretty much none of the major things.
CaptinEO
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The showrunner of Andor isn't a good source for this?
DCLcruiser
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Yup.
Now, I will say that Pandora @ DAK, at night, wow that's something special.
He was demonstrably using the Nielsen numbers incorrectly. He didn't understand it. We've had such problems with several people in the Movies forum using them wrongly to prove that the thing they hate was awful.
Mind you, they're using numbers from a list showing that that product was in the top ten for that week, but somehow, that showed how much people weren't watching!!
I'm sorry for the creator that he's saddened that his product wasn't more popular than Rings of Power that week. But it was more popular than hundreds of other products that week. Not everyone can be #1.
It had a successful release a month or two ago, over a decade after release. People still like the movie. It is a movie worth going to see in a theater. James Cameron knows more about how to get people in a theater than anyone who has ever walked the earth.
CaptinEO
Well-Known Member
Got it, that explains things. Thank you.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Many things can be true at once.
1. I think Andor has been excellent.
2. Disney has been disappointed with Andor's performance.
3. Andor has been in the top 10 of streaming on whatever given week(s).
I'd like to know that!
So far, the only thing demonstrably Chapek's is the restructuring of the power structure with DMED. Iger undid that on his first full day.
I'm part of the problem: I watched both Andor and Rings of Power!!
Or... am I the solution?
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Rings of Power is Bad and you should feel Bad.
CaptinEO
Well-Known Member
Definitely. I think sometimes things may underperform but it doesn't mean it's some disaster. But it can show brand fatigue or maybe other underlying issues.
I personally am and have friends, family, and coworkers that are all Star Wars fans and only one has checked out Andor.
The people I talked with said they just need a break from Star Wars but will probably see it one day in the future.
el_super
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Not to belabor the Avatar discussion too much, but Cameron did make Titanic, a movie famous for everyone knowing the ending before seeing it, the number one box office success for some time.
I wouldn't bet against Avatar. Technology might be important, but honestly it's the first Disney tent pole in recent memory that didn't somehow involve a comic book character.
Chip Chipperson
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I say they start getting some more product-placement revenue for D+ content. Those Coke spheres are in Galaxy's Edge, so stick them in Mandolorian, Andor, and every other Star War series. Have Mando casually mention how he'd kill for an ice cold Coke and then Grogu uses the Force to get one from a local merchant's fridge and gives him a little wink. Synergy!
Bocabear
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I can definitely see that happening... I am burned out on Super Heroes and Star Wars... and Dystopian Future themes... I am ready for hopeful, happy and beautiful. There is already enough angst violence and ugliness in the world... We as a society need new ways to dream.
el_super
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Yeah but Iger has an opportunity now that most execs don't get: he can change course and blame it on the other guy.
If something isn't working, I would fully expect Disney as an organization to acknowledge that and change directions. Easier when you can blame someone else, but still required even when you can't blame someone.
I think the real thing people don't get is, some of those changes actually are successful and don't need to be rolled back.
DCLcruiser
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Titanic transends generations. Avatar is vague, had/has no popular character (no idea his name), and came out ages ago.
Plus, Titanic was super long for the time, and took up multiple VHS. That was an event that teens to grandma wanted to see.