Matt_Black
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I have never heard of Cinemark, but now I must check to see if they're in my area.
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Here are the details on that Cinemark thing:
http://www.cinemark.com/cinemark-disney-screen.aspx
It's only in six theaters, however: Huntington Beach, CA; Woodbridge, IL; Plano, TX; Union City, CA; Valley View, OH; Orlando, FL (Cinemark Artegon Marketplace).
http://www.cinemark.com/cinemark-disney-screen.aspx
It's only in six theaters, however: Huntington Beach, CA; Woodbridge, IL; Plano, TX; Union City, CA; Valley View, OH; Orlando, FL (Cinemark Artegon Marketplace).
Matt_Black
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That's for the best, I suppose. The nearest one to me is way out in the city.
pajammies
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stevehousse, I'm not seeing this in Racine. Another poster above is only seeing it in a few cities also.
Wikkler
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Who chose the movies for Animals Week?
stevehousse
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That stinks! They usually do it at the Racine location but it looks like this round of movies isn't going to be there!!! Bummer!!! My wife sent me that and I didn't even realize our theater wasn't included
Rodan75
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I think the CG Age has finally blunted the value of those re-releases. (not starting a which is better or more artistic discussion)
Totally new movies designed with modern global sensibilities are going to be more broadly accepted and attended than the re-releases. Plus then they can sell merchandise tied to both...
prberk
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Actually I would think that it is the classic, fair-tale nature of the older Disney films that makes them already "global" in sensibility. For the most part they are all timeless tales already popular or somewhat familiar worldwide. That is what makes the stories transcendent of generations and locations. The stories themselves are timeless. I think Walt Disney knew this when he chose most of them. And the beautiful artistry and striking color that he used to film them helped them to stay relevant as technologies caught up and changed. No, it is not computer animation, and most of the earlier ones were not in widescreen, but the artistry was brilliant, and stands up today against anything a computer ever drew for warmth and beauty. So, there is still universal value to Disney's classics on the big screen.
I just watched "Mary Poppins" in HD from BluRay, with teenagers, and they liked it. We were all awestruck at the gorgeous visuals. Film is by definition "HD" in some ways, and this one was brilliantly restored.
Rodan75
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I don't disagree with your thoughts on the artistic merits of the originals. However, films like Dumbo and Peter Pan contain characterizations that are deemed inappropriate. And I think it is just a tougher sell to get international audiences to pay full price for a 20+ year old release regardless of how timeless it may be.
Magenta Panther
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Maybe Disney ought to re-release Peter Pan in 3D. No, I'm serious. All those flying scenes in 3D could be amazing. IF Disney took the time to do it right. The Wizard of Oz 3D re-release a couple of years ago looked absolutely amazing. I bet a similar approach to Peter Pan would do gangbusters at the box office.
Cesar R M
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the 3d gimmick doesnt work on all movies.
I remember when the 3d craze (that avatar spawned), forced many movies (that weren't 3d worthy or filmed in 3d..) to be moved into fake 3d.
They looked awful and noone had any advantage finance wise..
The Empress Lilly
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I loved those 3D re-releases of a few years ago! Phantom Menace was awesome, as was Titanic. Plus I got to see them on the big screen again. 
I finally got some 3D blu-ray copies of Lion King, BatB and LM too. These looked much better than I expected, breathed all new air in them. I regret Disney stopping the Star Wars and Disney classics 3D re-releases. Aladdin would've been great, and the Star Wars prequels!
I finally got some 3D blu-ray copies of Lion King, BatB and LM too. These looked much better than I expected, breathed all new air in them. I regret Disney stopping the Star Wars and Disney classics 3D re-releases. Aladdin would've been great, and the Star Wars prequels!
Matt_Black
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That's for live-action, though. Apparently, it's easier to retro it for animation, which is why Disney had a bit of success doing it with The Lion King and other films.
doctornick
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Kind of, but then it petered out (IIRC, Little Mermaid was in development when they squashed the idea, but still released it as a 3D Blu Ray). I think they realized that the revenues weren't significant enough to warrant the work to do the 3D conversion or else they'd still be doing it for more movies.
Personally, I think the problem with re-releasing the films in 3D only format is that the target audience is parents bringing their kids and the 3D upcharge is generally a barrier in the theater. Most families are looking for as affordable entertainment as possible, so opting to pay for a 3D movie is a tough sell when cheaper standard format movies are around as an alternative.
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Rodan75
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Well 3-D racist characterizations will win Disney plenty of new fans. They are a product of their time and I think they should still be in circulation, but many parents won't go near some of those movies. So Disney is wise to claim modern interpretations before the competition does.
englanddg
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Yet they'll happily go see Antman that has a token hispanic that acts like the most boilerplate chulo you can find and a token black guy who acts up his role as well. Or Planes, with their over the top mexican wrestler plane character. Or Minions which depicts all british people as having the same underbite and upper teeth.
People need to stop being so sensitive.
Matt_Black
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You know not all the old films have racist elements, right? Snow White, Pinocchio, Sleeping Beauty, Bambi...
Rodan75
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I know...in my original response on the topic, I did highlight that some films like Peter Pan and Dumbo. And in the response I was responding too specifically mentioned a 3-D Peter Pan.
While personally I feel these films are wonderful of examples of Disney at its best, we must also remember that they are very much products of their time and in some instances they contain unfortunate and outdated characterizations.
But again, my broader point, is that Disney is staking out claims on modern interpretations of these stories and characters so that they can continue to profit from them. They wouldn't make $1B on reissuing Alice in Wonderland or $600M off of Sleeping Beauty.
Matt_Black
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No, but the cost wouldn't be quite so much either. You can turn a nice profit from simply putting a film back in theaters for a little bit, or at least you used to.
Rodan75
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Yet they'll happily go see Antman that has a token hispanic that acts like the most boilerplate chulo you can find and a token black guy who acts up his role as well. Or Planes, with their over the top mexican wrestler plane character. Or Minions which depicts all british people as having the same underbite and upper teeth.
People need to stop being so sensitive.
While I agree that folks need to stop being overly sensitive. But I doubt we will have Ant-Man laws in the future. Again, I appreciate these movies for what they are. But many folks do not. Staking claim to these properties and characters today with modern interpretations is making Disney a lot of money and ensures they get to claim these characters as 'Theirs' for the next generation.