Bob Iger at WDW now ... BoD to Follow?

[PhotoDave219]

Sorry Judge, I was merely using the Uni example as evidence to further the case why Dinosaur and an Indy clone could coexist at WDW which is on topic.

That's judge doom, son.

Shame, shame, shame. Ding.

 

[danlb_2000]

A few people complained, but Uni isn't held to the perfectionist standards that Disney is, IMO.

People who follow Uni parks know the reason why Transformers was added (has to do with an unused plot of land, taxes and drawing crowds to another new attraction besides Diagon Alley)

Having Transformers in one park and Spiderman in the other is really no different then when Disney had Body Wars in Epcot and Star Tours in DHS. Those two rides where about as similar as Tranformers and Spiderman and was made "worse" by the fact that Star Tour and Body Wars opened withing a few months of each other. Can you imaging if Disney did that today? People on these boards would go crazy.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Having Transformers in one park and Spiderman in the other is really no different then when Disney had Body Wars in Epcot and Star Tours in DHS. Those two rides where about as similar as Tranformers and Spiderman and was made "worse" by the fact that Star Tour and Body Wars opened withing a few months of each other. Can you imaging if Disney did that today? People on these boards would go crazy.

Well these people will believe anything.

 

[AEfx]

Having Transformers in one park and Spiderman in the other is really no different then when Disney had Body Wars in Epcot and Star Tours in DHS. Those two rides where about as similar as Tranformers and Spiderman and was made "worse" by the fact that Star Tour and Body Wars opened withing a few months of each other. Can you imaging if Disney did that today? People on these boards would go crazy.

And the greater public wouldn't give a mouse's behind.

 

[flynnibus]

Having Transformers in one park and Spiderman in the other is really no different then when Disney had Body Wars in Epcot and Star Tours in DHS. Those two rides where about as similar as Tranformers and Spiderman and was made "worse" by the fact that Star Tour and Body Wars opened withing a few months of each other. Can you imaging if Disney did that today? People on these boards would go crazy.

It sucked then too. Nevermind you had BTTF just down the road too. Body wars was pretty medicore. Just not a popular discussion topic as most of wol isn't.

 

[kap91]

They have spent billions over the last decade. Mostly on refurbs and unglamerous behind the scenes infrastructure. It was done this way so that when the time was right they could add major content to the parks. As you now see happening at DAK and likely the Studios.

It was the only way it could be done. Any othey strategy in turning around TWDC could have actually caused WDW to be sold off in pieces. As was rumored by some insiders.

Sad that so many can't see reality through the silly smoke screen memes on these boards.

IMO.

Give up trying to convince the throngs here of that. I had to do for my own sanity. They're going to harp on how terrible it is at WDW and how no money ever gets spent for decades to come.

It's been obvious for a while now that major infrastructure improvements were the goal, presumably due to a recognized need to add attractions afterwards - but I get told how wrong I am all the time. Then again, here's a $3 billion dollar expansion coming, a figure that blows my mind - I was expecting closer to just 1 or 2 - after being told repeatedly here that WDW would probably never build anything again - at max a ride or two.

 

[WDWLover#1]

I know people are putting it off, but I have it on good authority that a new show is indeed coming to Epcot. Look for it next year.

 

[IMFearless]

It's great to see a firm vote of confidence in the future of WDW.

I am sure that reinvestment will pay off ten fold, just as previous investment has, that is how they got to where they are.

Not building and expanding what's on offer is shortsighted.

 

[Bluerose75]

First...the problem for many is the EMOTIONAL tie to Disney....something Walt fashioned to an Art and he was the Master. He created magical characters that to THIS DAY reign supreme. Those of us that had parents take us to WDW or Disneyland, or sit and watch Walt back in the day or grow up on his movies developed the attachment that Walt wanted....to take us Where Dreams Come True and Let Imagination be your Guide. We have watched for well over 10 years to see WDW ignored on the creative process. This has nothing to do with Infrastructure or behind the scenes....Walt said WDW would never be finished because of the Imagination.....but under Iger there has been NO IMAGINATION.....he has riden the Cable, Movies and Media bandwagon to the detriment of the Parks.

Remember people over those years Iger lost the ATTACHMENT....many people simply have no desire to go to WDW because NOTHING IS NEW....wrist bands, parades and shows are NOT what develop attachments.....and Iger has had his butt handed to him as other parks and venues leave Disney in the boredom syndrome. Sorry that is what has driven long time Disney fans crazy. THERE HAS BEEN NO REASON FOR IT!!!! PERIOD.

So enough with the behind the scenes spending and garbage....NO....Iger built DVC, wrist bands, shows and other items that mean little in LEGACY ATTACHMENT. He lost a generation......he knows he needs to spend and spend big!

 

[kap91]

Here are a few more:

11. Disney Springs Completed along with new exit from I4
12. Various Resort refurbishments and the competition of WL DVC
13. New Innoventions West attraction
14. MK Hub completed along with new TS restaurant in Adventureland

Yet I imagine we're still going to have a bunch of doom and gloom era complaining about the lack of projects.

 

[CinematicFusion]

And that's fine - we all have our personal preferences. Just understand that your personal preference is pretty unique to those of us who sit around and talk about these parks on the Internet, and is a "uber-fan" focused idea. Most people think "Why would I go to Disneyland - I've already been to WDW" and vice versa, and in fact expect similar attractions at each resort.

All I can speak for is myself.
I wouldn't want clones of the same rides all over land and world. It's pretty much like that anyway. Disneyland imo should have it's own unique identity.
Cloning ride system...that doesn't bother me.
Cloning rides outside of states and bringing them here...All for it.

Yes..my opinion. I guess I'm in the minortiy

 

[ford91exploder]

Give up trying to convince the throngs here of that. I had to do for my own sanity. They're going to harp on how terrible it is at WDW and how no money ever gets spent for decades to come.

It's been obvious for a while now that major infrastructure improvements were the goal, presumably due to a recognized need to add attractions afterwards - but I get told how wrong I am all the time. Then again, here's a $3 billion dollar expansion coming, a figure that blows my mind - I was expecting closer to just 1 or 2 - after being told repeatedly here that WDW would probably never build anything again - at max a ride or two.

You have an ANNOUCEMENT that even the insiders like say actual work is about a YEAR away, A lot can happen in a year, What would impress me would be if they added a TSPL and had it open by the holidays, No it's not a great attraction but it's cheap and easy and would say more than any PR piece 'This is REALLY going to happen'.

Instead the only solid plans are to close 3-5 MORE attractions at DHS including people eaters like LMA and BATB, To me at least that says more cost cutting is planned not more SPENDING.

 

[JWG]

I can see them closing imagination to save money, and doing a new 3d movie (inside out) instead in the theater. Then the ride would sit dormant for who knows how long, we all know how that turns out....lets hope not though but dont put it past them.
Its probably going to take a sponsor to do anything there, even though that wasnt the case with nemo into the seas.

I can't see them closing Imagination for a long period of time. With no WoL losing another major attraction on the opposite side would play with capacity and FP+. And just look horrid. Not to mention you can't hide Imagination like you can WoL.

 

[jakeman]

You have an ANNOUCEMENT that even the insiders like say actual work is about a YEAR away, A lot can happen in a year, What would impress me would be if they added a TSPL and had it open by the holidays, No it's not a great attraction but it's cheap and easy and would say more than any PR piece 'This is REALLY going to happen'.

Instead the only solid plans are to close 3-5 MORE attractions at DHS including people eaters like LMA and BATB, To me at least that says more cost cutting is planned not more SPENDING.

Or we have some rumors that are corroborated by several different sources that will either come to fruition or not.

Repeatedly, and I mean at this point dozens of times, stating that you personally don't believe it is going to happen isn't going to change the outcome.

So maybe your opinion could sit a few plays out and let other folks have a turn?

 

[Cesar R M]

Just remember, your preference for something "unique" is not shared by the vast majority of the public that they will never know what is unique or not, as most of them will never visit both resorts on opposite coasts in their lifetimes.

well... the differences are quite apparent.. all related to 2 things..
A)theme
b) technology
Test track and Racers might have the same technology, but they are heavily themed differently.

 

[Cesar R M]

Yes. For example, Lucas got shares when he sold to Disney, but TWDC didn't need to issue new shares, they just used treasury stock on hand from previous buybacks. They could buy a whole lot of IP with the amount of buybacks they have been doing in the past few years.

you quoted the wrong reply just fyi

 

[Cesar R M]

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I wonder if when Pandora opens.. we will get the SAME WOW..
causing the debate easier to justify (the awesome exclusive thing in one coast that the other doesn't have)

That's judge doom, son.

Shame, shame, shame. Ding.

 

[Cesar R M]

Possible Scenarios

1 - TWDC is about to announce a major corporate restructuring
2 - We are coming up on the end of the FY (Aug 27) and the numbers are not rosy enough so layoffs to make the numbers look rosy.
3 - The 'Conspiracy Theorists' are correct and TWDC's is about to join the long list of companies which went 'poof' after cooking the books for years.

I dont think #3 would cause TWDC company to go poof. They will probably just sell some assets that they think are disponsable.

Would the parks go? The DCL? ESPN?

 

[Cesar R M]

Give up trying to convince the throngs here of that. I had to do for my own sanity. They're going to harp on how terrible it is at WDW and how no money ever gets spent for decades to come.

It's been obvious for a while now that major infrastructure improvements were the goal, presumably due to a recognized need to add attractions afterwards - but I get told how wrong I am all the time. Then again, here's a $3 billion dollar expansion coming, a figure that blows my mind - I was expecting closer to just 1 or 2 - after being told repeatedly here that WDW would probably never build anything again - at max a ride or two.

things actually WERE (and kinda are) still bad at WDW..
MM+ is still failing...
Systems still fail (at MK).
on busy days, their entire system can fail completely.

not to mention the maintenance issues. (which thank god they're finally fixing, these news about Pirates being fixed step by step is encouraging.. because that thing was in a PATHETICALLY SAD state).

The best thing? seems there is hope with the money being invested..specially in DHS.

But as far I know and I think @PhotoDave219 will agree.. there will be NOTHING to go to DHS for(other than fantasmic, tower of terror and RNRC by Aerosmith) due of the closures. (until they finally open pixar and star wars, which might be.. what? 5-10 years away?)

So, pretty sure things will get worse for Magic Kingdom before they improve.

I know people are putting it off, but I have it on good authority that a new show is indeed coming to Epcot. Look for it next year.

and you know this.. because?

Remember people over those years Iger lost the ATTACHMENT....many people simply have no desire to go to WDW because NOTHING IS NEW....wrist bands, parades and shows are NOT what develop attachments.....and Iger has had his butt handed to him as other parks and venues leave Disney in the boredom syndrome. Sorry that is what has driven long time Disney fans crazy. THERE HAS BEEN NO REASON FOR IT!!!! PERIOD.

Well, I dont know about you, but Festival of Fantasy definitively was top notch for me.
also they get a double bonus for not using that damn castle float again.

 

[jt04]

Give up trying to convince the throngs here of that. I had to do for my own sanity. They're going to harp on how terrible it is at WDW and how no money ever gets spent for decades to come.

It's been obvious for a while now that major infrastructure improvements were the goal, presumably due to a recognized need to add attractions afterwards - but I get told how wrong I am all the time. Then again, here's a $3 billion dollar expansion coming, a figure that blows my mind - I was expecting closer to just 1 or 2 - after being told repeatedly here that WDW would probably never build anything again - at max a ride or two.

You are right. And once it becomes undeniable that a plan was put in place by Iger et al to rehabilitate every division, the D&G posters will claim their complaining made the difference. Mark my words that is the intent of the negativity in the face of all that is going right.

IMO.